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| "The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense."
A-I didnt ask you guys to critique my ideas, but add some of yours or simply reply I like it 100% the way it is.
B-"No other organization runs on a standard pattern all year" Thats exactly my point, this to me would be an opportunity to help create even more excitement and buzz about this race.
Having all the races staked the same size, it could be a standard pattern or an "American pattern" staked smaller,but the excitement it created would be crazy in my opinion. Imagine seeing a lady down in Florida smoke a run that is 2 tenths faster than anyone in the earlier races then the anticipation on how she would and or could perform for the $1 million!! To ME it would bring it to yet another level, and yes I do believe The American is one of the best things to happen to barrel racing in...years,ever?
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Location: western Nebraska | I have no plans to ever enter but I love the idea of an "American" sized pattern at all the qualifiers. That would be fun to see how they all compared as they qualified. I know the ground would not be the same at all the arenas but it would still be fun. If the measurements used were the same as the one they used last year at the American I think that would be cool. | |
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| doglady - 2014-11-04 11:40 PM
I have no plans to ever enter but I love the idea of an "American" sized pattern at all the qualifiers. That would be fun to see how they all compared as they qualified. I know the ground would not be the same at all the arenas but it would still be fun.  If the measurements used were the same as the one they used last year at the American I think that would be cool.Â
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| schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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| Cindy Hamilton - 2014-11-04 4:20 PM
schnitkey - 2014-11-04 3:00 PM I will throw my two cents into the ring. I wish the BBR would monitor more closely where these races are held. Alcohol should not run a show and it is a poor representation for RFDtv to have such a caliber of a race held by a group that actually puts alcohol in its rules.
OK...I think I have it figured out....this was in the rules of the Ohio American qualifier....I don't know these people, but their rules are very funny...I laughed because they were intended to be light hearted. I would say it was all written in fun and this person needs to lighten up and learn to take a joke...lol...here's a link for the rules.....http://ontheroadwithdawnandclea.com/rules-for-panty-raid-and-botb/ Rule I think she's referring to: "If you have a question or complaint you must bring $20 to the office or a 6 pack of beer for the office staff. If we determine it is a stupid question, you will owe both."Â
I am putting this on EVERY set of rules that I have for a roping or barrel race that I have in the future! This is AWESOME! Until you produce an event and listen to people Bi*** about every single little petty thing..... then yea you probably won't find humor in this. | |
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Location: Sperry, OK | schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
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Location: Down South | Nevertooold - 2014-11-03 4:19 PM Since they are putting all of this on and adding all the money, I wouldn't step on anyone's toes and if I was the producer I would tell people if they didn't like what I was doing that they needed to put on their own version of the American..LOL
Yep Yep.!!!! I could put my own spin on that for the shows I produce. You wanna complain??..... then you put on a show and do all the work. I'll just show up and visit and talk with my friends and run my horse. | |
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| Itsme - 2014-11-04 11:13 PM
"The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense."
A-I didnt ask you guys to critique my ideas, but add some of yours or simply reply I like it 100% the way it is.
B-"No other organization runs on a standard pattern all year" Thats exactly my point, this to me would be an opportunity to help create even more excitement and buzz about this race.
Having all the races staked the same size, it could be a standard pattern or an "American pattern" staked smaller,but the excitement it created would be crazy in my opinion. Imagine seeing a lady down in Florida smoke a run that is 2 tenths faster than anyone in the earlier races then the anticipation on how she would and or could perform for the $1 million!! To ME it would bring it to yet another level, and yes I do believe The American is one of the best things to happen to barrel racing in...years,ever?
If you want the same size pattern, to be able to compare barrel racers times across the country.
Then you will need the same dimensions of arena, and
You would need the same footing
Without these being the same, times will be affected
Hey why not rake after every person too that way everyone gets the same chance
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Location: Oklahoma | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 9:28 AM schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen. I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | cheryl makofka - 2014-11-05 10:06 AM Itsme - 2014-11-04 11:13 PM "The standard pattern, no other organization, runs on a standard pattern all year, why should the American? Makes no sense." A-I didnt ask you guys to critique my ideas, but add some of yours or simply reply I like it 100% the way it is. B-"No other organization runs on a standard pattern all year" Thats exactly my point, this to me would be an opportunity to help create even more excitement and buzz about this race. Having all the races staked the same size, it could be a standard pattern or an "American pattern" staked smaller,but the excitement it created would be crazy in my opinion. Imagine seeing a lady down in Florida smoke a run that is 2 tenths faster than anyone in the earlier races then the anticipation on how she would and or could perform for the $1 million!! To ME it would bring it to yet another level, and yes I do believe The American is one of the best things to happen to barrel racing in...years,ever? If you want the same size pattern, to be able to compare barrel racers times across the country. Then you will need the same dimensions of arena, and You would need the same footing Without these being the same, times will be affected Hey why not rake after every person too that way everyone gets the same chance
Do you REALLY believe that the footing at the NFR is the SAME every year to set arena records??? There is an excitement when someone breaks the WPRA record on a "standard" pattern......regardless of the arena.....By having the same size pattern, it would, at the very least, serve as a barometer for comparison of runs. I think it is a good idea. | |
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| I wish some producer would start more high money straight pay barrel races. NBHA doesn't pay enough to 1D at their nationals, open, or youth world. Lets take those open horses and run for some dang money people. I know I know those 4D and 3D people add to the pot but we can make our races even the local levels pay more if all directors would take more of a business approach to this game.
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Location: Washington | astreakinchic - 2014-11-05 8:18 AM I wish some producer would start more high money straight pay barrel races. NBHA doesn't pay enough to 1D at their nationals, open, or youth world. Lets take those open horses and run for some dang money people. I know I know those 4D and 3D people add to the pot but we can make our races even the local levels pay more if all directors would take more of a business approach to this game. Also, I'd love for liquor and beer companies to get involved as sponsors. The more money in our sport the better!
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Location: Texas | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 9:28 AM
schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? Â I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. Â As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Â Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Â Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. Â But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
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Sorry… But I think that is a TERRIBLE attitude to have. Of course we should care… It's that kind of attitude that let's someone drive away drunk and kill a family. Take it from someone who has lots of experience with "functioning" addicts. Their day will come, let's just hope that it's not at someone else's expense.
And for the record… I DO care and I prefer to be affiliated with people who have more respect for themselves and others then to get drunk when they should be sober.
Also, I think the way they did the rules was cute and was just meant to be funny.
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Location: Sperry, OK | grinandbareit - 2014-11-05 10:23 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 9:28 AM schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen. I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
Sorry… But I think that is a TERRIBLE attitude to have. Of course we should care… It's that kind of attitude that let's someone drive away drunk and kill a family. Take it from someone who has lots of experience with "functioning" addicts. Their day will come, let's just hope that it's not at someone else's expense. And for the record… I DO care and I prefer to be affiliated with people who have more respect for themselves and others then to get drunk when they should be sober. Also, I think the way they did the rules was cute and was just meant to be funny.
I never said anything about drinking and driving! And I personally don't care if my attidute is not in alignment with yours. I am for sure not going to bash someone that is working the gate at a race I am at for having a few beers. As long as they open the gate when I go in and out, and they aren't rude to me, don't cause me and my horse to have a wreck from their inabiltiy to function... carry on! If the tractor drivers are dragging effectively and efficiently, I really don't care what is in their cup! Honestly if this is what people are focused on when they should be focused on their run, then it was probably reflective of their focus. Just another point of people getting in other peoples business when they just need to mind their own!
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| grinandbareit - 2014-11-05 10:23 AM
ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-11-05 9:28 AM
schnitkey - 2014-11-05 3:41 AM You may think the alcohol part is funny, but it is not. When your producers are drunk during the show, the crew in charge of the gates are drunk during the show and a portion of your tractor drivers are out back getting drunk its not funny. It's dangerous and a lawsuit waiting to happen.
I wouldn't care what they were.. as long as they did their job and remained professional.. who cares? Â I know more people than I care to count that are NEVER sober. Â As a matter of fact, on occassion, I ask "what is wrong with them?" and get told... "they are sober"... There are more people in the world that you or I could ever imagine that are functioning alcoholics, or at least are still able to be repectful and do their job while drinking. Â Some of the best jackpots/rodeos I have been to, the whole crew was drinking. Â Don't get me wrong, I have seen some take it too far, or not be able to handle themselves professionally under the influence too, and those aren't so fun. Â But as I stated above, as long as they did their job, remained professional and couteous.. WHO CARES!
p.s. I know now you will start telling stories of how they werent professional.
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Sorry… But I think that is a TERRIBLE attitude to have. Of course we should care… It's that kind of attitude that let's someone drive away drunk and kill a family. Take it from someone who has lots of experience with "functioning" addicts. Their day will come, let's just hope that it's not at someone else's expense.
And for the record… I DO care and I prefer to be affiliated with people who have more respect for themselves and others then to get drunk when they should be sober.
Also, I think the way they did the rules was cute and was just meant to be funny.
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| skeeter 777 - 2014-11-03 5:05 PM My biggest complaint is that comcast doesnt have RFD TV, cause I really wanted to watch it
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