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| hotpaints - 2014-12-09 4:34 PM Here are my thoughts.....wearing pink may help raise awareness but who is really making all the money from people going out and buying pink clothing..........the manufacturers! Since most clothes are made in another country..........who are we really supporting?? All the clothing manufacturers just love this kind of movement.
Why not take the money that is spent on pink shirts, shoes, pants, etc. and donate to research or to your local hospice? Yes! And this was a point that was brought up on my Facebook post- the fact that manufacturers are taking advantage of the "guilt" people might feel if they don't run out and buy a pink shirt on pink night! I hadn't considered that perspective before until earlier today. Someone else mentioned that the Susan Koman foundation didn't receive much of a donation from the sellers of pink clothing anyway. So those who sell the idea of "pink" are just using it as an opportunity to increase their own incomes. By being guilted into wearing pink- a brand new product (the pink mens shirt) is developed, instantly gains popularity and provides massive amounts of sales, great marketing strategy. Kind of like what happened when a good thing such as Christmas became commercialized and everyone wanted to make a buck off of it. Great post hotpaints- :)
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     Location: In a happy place | You post a question asking for opinions/answers and you don't have time to read all the posts????????????????????????????
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| trickster j - 2014-12-09 7:29 PM Dang, I wish I had time to read all of these comments! Just the few I have read are very interesting in that just a simple question can stir up such intense anger- I'm working on a masters in psychology, and I guess since during my course of study I've had to respond to questions such as these, I'm used to asking them and answering them with respect for the person asking them. Some pretty deep conversation usually develops from a somewhat shocking idea or thought- not here I obviously- carry on! I'll check in tomorrow for more intelligent insights!

I think you should have added more info to the OP. Might have spared us the downward spiral of vicious insults, apparent sexism, and the tarnishing of your reputation here...
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| sorrel horse ranch - 2014-12-09 5:35 PM You post a question asking for opinions/answers and you don't have time to read all the posts????????????????????????????
Yes- sorry- very crazy busy today! Gun safety class this morning for 3 hours, then quick lunch, then off to Phoenix for chiropractor (traffic was ick!!), now finally back to camp and now I have to do chores, shower, meet a friend for dinner and watch the NFR. I didn't even get to ride today dang it! And I am so behind in my college class for this week already, it's called, "Ethical Thinking in the Liberal Arts." You want to see some hairy questions- just sign up for one of those classes- Lol!
I apologize for all those who spent their day trying to respond to me- I didn't purposely ignore you, I just got busy- and now I really have to go! Chat laters!! :) | |
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| sorrel horse ranch - 2014-12-09 7:35 PM You post a question asking for opinions/answers and you don't have time to read all the posts????????????????????????????
It happens pretty often. When I start a thread I don't sit at the computer for hours waiting for the replies to pile up. | |
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| trickster j - 2014-12-09 6:29 PM Dang, I wish I had time to read all of these comments! Just the few I have read are very interesting in that just a simple question can stir up such intense anger- I'm working on a masters in psychology, and I guess since during my course of study I've had to respond to questions such as these, I'm used to asking them and answering them with respect for the person asking them. Some pretty deep conversation usually develops from a somewhat shocking idea or thought- not here I obviously- carry on! I'll check in tomorrow for more intelligent insights!

You keep avoiding answering the question how can you import motives to actions by a person that you have never met, never had a discussion with and someone who has made no statements in reference to the action. Your statement assigning 2 reasons to not wearing pink has no merit. You are making assumptions and assumptions are not fact and have no place in an intelligent discussion. Now if one of the contestants had made a statement about wearing or not wearing pink then we would have something to talk about. | |
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      Location: Willows, CA | rodeomom3 - 2014-12-09 6:45 PM
trickster j - 2014-12-09 6:29 PM Â Dang, I wish I had time to read all of these comments! Â Just the few I have read are very interesting in that just a simple question can stir up such intense anger- I'm working on a masters in psychology, and I guess since during my course of study I've had to respond to questions such as these, I'm used to asking them and answering them with respect for the person asking them. Â Some pretty deep conversation usually develops from a somewhat shocking idea or thought- not here I obviously- carry on! Â I'll check in tomorrow for more intelligent insights! Â

 You keep avoiding answering the question how can you import motives to actions by a person that you have never met, never had a discussion with and someone who has made no statements in reference to the action.  Your statement assigning 2 reasons to not wearing pink has no merit.  You are making assumptions and assumptions are not fact and have no place in an intelligent discussion.  Now if one of the contestants had made a statement about  wearing or not wearing pink then we would have something to talk about.
While not an NFR contestant, I do participate in events that have "pink days", and I do obviously have an opinion on this. As I have said, I am happy to participate. My response was really directed to those who say that their man would never wear something pink. I have made my point there. As to selling pink shirts, when you wear a shirt, it has to be some color, so you are wearing a shirt that was purchased at some time and cost anyway whether it is pink or not. I do enough horse events that having a few pink shirts is no different than having a few blue ones. I guess the pink dye folks are making some money on us. Some people may disagree with the concept of this program. I am fine with that. My point was simply that feeling that somehow wearing a color, any color is somehow embarrassing or threatening just seems stupid to me. That was my point. I guess those same guys would not hold their wifes or girlfriends purse while they used the restroom for fear of how it might look. I personally am not that insecure. | |
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| The OP asked how people felt about the subject and people immediately went for the jugular assuming that she feels it's "going against women" to not wear pink. She wasn't and she still ISN'T saying that.
Also, if you read the few posts at the beginning of this page, you'll see the post by Hotpaints and Trickster's quote and reply. I think that is where she was hoping for the conversation to go...not, "Wow, you're stupid", "Get a life", and "Gee, only a woman would post this!"
But, of course, here we are sinking our claws into a BB who is by and large a good contributor to this site. Does no one pay attention to who is posting what? Does no one think, "Hmm, that seems unlike Trickster to post such an inflammatory thing, maybe I should wait for an explanation or ask for clarification before eviscerating her?" Nope.
Holy cabin fever, Batman. I shudder to think of what the rest of winter will be like at this rate...
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       Location: your guess is as good as mine | LRQHS - 2014-12-09 9:47 AM Hello, my name is Jennifer and I wear whatever color isn't in the dirty clothes.

My name is KD and pink & I have formed a mutual hate society with each other. I have agreed to throw out any shirts and polo wraps that have pink on them and pink has agreed to no longer sabotage my runs.   | |
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| winwillows - 2014-12-09 7:03 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-12-09 6:45 PM trickster j - 2014-12-09 6:29 PM Dang, I wish I had time to read all of these comments! Just the few I have read are very interesting in that just a simple question can stir up such intense anger- I'm working on a masters in psychology, and I guess since during my course of study I've had to respond to questions such as these, I'm used to asking them and answering them with respect for the person asking them. Some pretty deep conversation usually develops from a somewhat shocking idea or thought- not here I obviously- carry on! I'll check in tomorrow for more intelligent insights!  You keep avoiding answering the question how can you import motives to actions by a person that you have never met, never had a discussion with and someone who has made no statements in reference to the action. Your statement assigning 2 reasons to not wearing pink has no merit. You are making assumptions and assumptions are not fact and have no place in an intelligent discussion. Now if one of the contestants had made a statement about wearing or not wearing pink then we would have something to talk about. While not an NFR contestant, I do participate in events that have "pink days", and I do obviously have an opinion on this. As I have said, I am happy to participate. My response was really directed to those who say that their man would never wear something pink. I have made my point there. As to selling pink shirts, when you wear a shirt, it has to be some color, so you are wearing a shirt that was purchased at some time and cost anyway whether it is pink or not. I do enough horse events that having a few pink shirts is no different than having a few blue ones. I guess the pink dye folks are making some money on us. Some people may disagree with the concept of this program. I am fine with that. My point was simply that feeling that somehow wearing a color, any color is somehow embarrassing or threatening just seems stupid to me. That was my point. I guess those same guys would not hold their wifes or girlfriends purse while they used the restroom for fear of how it might look. I personally am not that insecure. My husband has pink button downs, he loooks good in them too. My post was more in reference how can one have an intelligent discussion when someone is assigning motives to someone when they have no idea at all what their reasons were or if there was even a conscious thought process of what they chose to wear that night. It is misinterpretation at best and outright "gossip" at its worst and has no merit.
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Just Plain Lucky - 2014-12-09 7:04 PM The OP asked how people felt about the subject and people immediately went for the jugular assuming that she feels it's "going against women" to not wear pink. She wasn't and she still ISN'T saying that. Correction......she didn't "ask" for opinions about the subject...she gave people two idiotic choices to choose from........(Her Question.....Do you think it is a direct opposition towards women who have suffered with breast cancer, or just women in general?)
Also, if you read the few posts at the beginning of this page, you'll see the post by Hotpaints and Trickster's quote and reply. I think that is where she was hoping for the conversation to go...not, "Wow, you're stupid", "Get a life", and "Gee, only a woman would post this!" And then when she didn't get answers that she LIKED.....she took a "cheap shot".....HER post "Interesting to see how people respond when their identity is hidden, verses those who know each other. Lol- gotta love the anonymity of BHW!"
But, of course, here we are sinking our claws into a BB who is by and large a good contributor to this site. Does no one pay attention to who is posting what? Does no one think, "Hmm, that seems unlike Trickster to post such an inflammatory thing, maybe I should wait for an explanation or ask for clarification before eviscerating her?" Nope.
Holy cabin fever, Batman. I shudder to think of what the rest of winter will be like at this rate...
Carry on..........
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| NJJ - 2014-12-09 8:26 PM
Just Plain Lucky - 2014-12-09 7:04 PM Â The OP asked how people felt about the subject and people immediately went for the jugular assuming that she feels it's "going against women" to not wear pink. She wasn't and she still ISN'T saying that. Correction......she didn't "ask" for opinions about the subject...she gave people two idiotic choices to choose from........(Her Question.....Do you think it is a direct opposition towards women who have suffered with breast cancer, or just women in general?)
Also, if you read the few posts at the beginning of this page, you'll see the post by Hotpaints and Trickster's quote and reply. I think that is where she was hoping for the conversation to go...not, "Wow, you're stupid", "Get a life", and "Gee, only a woman would post this!" And then when she didn't get answers that she LIKED.....she took a "cheap shot".....HER post "Interesting to see how people respond when their identity is hidden, verses those who know each other. Â Lol- gotta love the anonymity of BHW!"
But, of course, here we are sinking our claws into a BB who is by and large a good contributor to this site. Does no one pay attention to who is posting what? Does no one think, "Hmm, that seems unlike Trickster to post such an inflammatory thing, maybe I should wait for an explanation or ask for clarification before eviscerating her?" Nope.Â
Holy cabin fever, Batman. I shudder to think of what the rest of winter will be like at this rate... Â
 Carry on..........Â
I think my stance would be a lot different had she said, "I think people who don't wear pink in support of breast cancer patients are opposing those patients and even women in general, what say you?" That's not what she said. She did word her OP pretty poorly; I'll give you that, but I seriously doubt she meant it the way everyone seems to be taking it.
And honestly, the "cheap shot" in question pales in comparison to some of the things directed at her. Frankly, I think she practiced a lot of restraint in her replies.
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       Location: relocated to Texas | trickster j - 2014-12-10 5:29 PM Dang, I wish I had time to read all of these comments! Just the few I have read are very interesting in that just a simple question can stir up such intense anger- I'm working on a masters in psychology, and I guess since during my course of study I've had to respond to questions such as these, I'm used to asking them and answering them with respect for the person asking them. Some pretty deep conversation usually develops from a somewhat shocking idea or thought- not here I obviously- carry on! I'll check in tomorrow for more intelligent insights!  You didn't ask a question. You gave two options as though those two answers to your idiotic question were absolute. Your comments to those responding are condensending, hence the negative reactions you are receiving. A Psych major? Somehow that doesn't surprise me.
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        Location: Displaced Iowegian | Just Plain Lucky - 2014-12-09 7:58 PM NJJ - 2014-12-09 8:26 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-12-09 7:04 PM The OP asked how people felt about the subject and people immediately went for the jugular assuming that she feels it's "going against women" to not wear pink. She wasn't and she still ISN'T saying that.
Correction......she didn't "ask" for opinions about the subject...she gave people two idiotic choices to choose from........(Her Question.....Do you think it is a direct opposition towards women who have suffered with breast cancer, or just women in general?)
Also, if you read the few posts at the beginning of this page, you'll see the post by Hotpaints and Trickster's quote and reply. I think that is where she was hoping for the conversation to go...not, "Wow, you're stupid", "Get a life", and "Gee, only a woman would post this!"
And then when she didn't get answers that she LIKED.....she took a "cheap shot".....HER post "Interesting to see how people respond when their identity is hidden, verses those who know each other. Lol- gotta love the anonymity of BHW!"
But, of course, here we are sinking our claws into a BB who is by and large a good contributor to this site. Does no one pay attention to who is posting what? Does no one think, "Hmm, that seems unlike Trickster to post such an inflammatory thing, maybe I should wait for an explanation or ask for clarification before eviscerating her?" Nope.
Holy cabin fever, Batman. I shudder to think of what the rest of winter will be like at this rate...
Carry on.......... I think my stance would be a lot different had she said, "I think people who don't wear pink in support of breast cancer patients are opposing those patients and even women in general, what say you?" That's not what she said. She did word her OP pretty poorly; I'll give you that, but I seriously doubt she meant it the way everyone seems to be taking it. And honestly, the "cheap shot" in question pales in comparison to some of the things directed at her. Frankly, I think she practiced a lot of restraint in her replies.
My bad......now we all have to become "mind readers" to effectively answer any questions on BHW to the OP's satisfaction.....duly noted!!! | |
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2014-12-09 7:04 PM
 The OP asked how people felt about the subject and people immediately went for the jugular assuming that she feels it's "going against women" to not wear pink. She wasn't and she still ISN'T saying that.
Also, if you read the few posts at the beginning of this page, you'll see the post by Hotpaints and Trickster's quote and reply. I think that is where she was hoping for the conversation to go...not, "Wow, you're stupid", "Get a life", and "Gee, only a woman would post this!"
But, of course, here we are sinking our claws into a BB who is by and large a good contributor to this site. Does no one pay attention to who is posting what? Does no one think, "Hmm, that seems unlike Trickster to post such an inflammatory thing, maybe I should wait for an explanation or ask for clarification before eviscerating her?" Nope.Â
Holy cabin fever, Batman. I shudder to think of what the rest of winter will be like at this rate... Â
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    Location: Midwest | trickster j - 2014-12-09 6:29 PM Dang, I wish I had time to read all of these comments! Just the few I have read are very interesting in that just a simple question can stir up such intense anger- I'm working on a masters in psychology, and I guess since during my course of study I've had to respond to questions such as these, I'm used to asking them and answering them with respect for the person asking them. Some pretty deep conversation usually develops from a somewhat shocking idea or thought- not here I obviously- carry on! I'll check in tomorrow for more intelligent insights!  
PS My name is Alison Tebbens, and I heart Lucille
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trickster j - 2014-12-10 5:29 PM  Dang, I wish I had time to read all of these comments!  Just the few I have read are very interesting in that just a simple question can stir up such intense anger- I'm working on a masters in psychology, and I guess since during my course of study I've had to respond to questions such as these, I'm used to asking them and answering them with respect for the person asking them.  Some pretty deep conversation usually develops from a somewhat shocking idea or thought- not here I obviously- carry on!  I'll check in tomorrow for more intelligent insights!    You didn't ask a question.  You gave two options as though those two answers to your idiotic question  were absolute.  Your comments to those responding are condensending, hence the negative reactions you are receiving.  A Psych major?  Somehow that doesn't surprise me. Â
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Hollywood's Fan nailed it. The OP's casual condescension and inflammatory fist post garnered the responses she received. So either she is a dabbling Psych major playing games for entertainment...or she is somehow unaware of how her post would be received and needs to get back to the books.  | |
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