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Location: 31 lengths farms | tThompson...my gelding came up sore again about 2 weeks ago. Not bad but if you know him then you knew he was not reaching like normal and was slightly more off in a tight circle. I sent his x-rays I had done at UC Davis last June to the vet I normally use for major lameness issue and he consulted with me on them, had an appointment set to take one MRI of the right front and make some shoeing changes based on his findings of the x-rays and what he sees on the MRI.
So Tucker was what I'd say was a 2/3 on the lameness scale, get home last Sunday and he is hobbling. The bot flies were out and attacking, the two mares in the pastures next to him where running and bucking and kicking, Tucker was foamy and sweaty and as I checked him another one zoomed in on him. He was now a 9 on the lameness scale, didnt' want to really bear weight on the right front, stood pointing it, called the vet he said to go ahead and give him some Previcoxx . No change, no change the next day, called the vet again, he said to take him off the Previcoxx until the appt. I ordered the Cur_ost stomach for my little mare with stomach issues and had gotten the Green for Tucker and it happened to come in on Tuesday so I gave him his first dose Tuesday night, Wednesday morning he walked over the feeder looking significantly better. Wednesday night I get home and he is out in kicking and running again from the Bot flies (no spray seems to do anything for them) and trying to hide in the bushes to get away from them. I'm expecting a totally crippled horse again, grab the spray and head out to him, he trotted over to me hardly any gimp at all!!!! Gave him his second dose and was thinking we'll see what tonight brings after I get back from teaching gymnastics. Got home,grabbed the flash light and he walked over still looking good, next morning same, in fact loped over to the feed tub like he usually does.
He obviously still has the appt. on Monday but what a good feeling to at least have given him some relief until we can get him in. |
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| That is AWESOME! I feel like a broken record when I recommend Cur-Ost to people, but it does work! I am so glad that he is doing better. CC is still going strong, too, I hope.  |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Tonight will be my first ride on CC since starting the Stomach with her. I am interested to see if I notice changes with her as quickly as I did with Tucker. |
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Location: Arkansas | run n rate - 2015-10-09 12:48 PM
Tonight will be my first ride on CC since starting the Stomach with her. I am interested to see if I notice changes with her as quickly as I did with Tucker.
How did CC's ride go---notice a difference? Glad to hear the Cur-ost is helping Tucker. I'm about convinced by all these good reports from so many different folks to give it a try for my 36 year old boy and recently retired to pasture pet status mare. . . |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Didn't get a chance to ride after all when I got home, got off late and then had to go get some hay :-( Hoping to rectify that today after I get done with work. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | So took CC for a ride down the creek last night. Now CC is the worlds worst trail horse, there is nothing soothing about it to her, she doesn't care for rabbits and deer popping out of bushes and birds flying suddenly from trees, she'd much rather lope a circle in a space she knows well. Normally you have to ride two handed and guide her on the way out much like a 2 year old colt and be ready for the bolt action if a deer does bust out and she decides that is the cue to GO HOME to SAFETY!!!! And the trip home is full blown "lets get the H E double toothpicks out of here!" Last night she actually walked down the creek without her normal anxiety and was controllable on the way home, she did lookey lou around like normal, but I'll take that. |
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Location: Central Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-10-08 10:02 PM
tThompson - 2015-10-08 2:37 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-10-08 2:53 PM tThompson - 2015-10-08 12:23 PM I wasn't in the start of this thread, but hoping I can chime in now.
I put my mare on OsPhos in July. She was a 1d mare before. (3rd-5th normally) I noticed improvement within a week. Not a huge one, but enough where I knew it was working. I took her to a jackpot 9 days after my vet appt. She won the jackpot by a whole second. From July until now, she has won 8 out of 9 jackpots entered, including winning the 1st round of state finals by .4 tenths, and the average by .6. 6 of those jackpots, she has won the 1d all alone. I'm not saying its a miracle drug, but I have had great results with it.
Will be doing my 2nd shot in the next few weeks.
Just be aware that the effect diminishes each time you give it. My vet said by the 3rd time it really has no effect.
When Osphos was first FDA approved there were no horses that had been given multiple doses over time. Now they have. The vet told me that evidence is now showing that the first dose is most effective, and each dose there after doesn't seem to work as well. Her advice was to really stretch it out as far as I could. Having said that, since being on CUROST my horse has not needed injections, previcox, or polyglycan.
I am by no means a vet but I have had intensive experience with Tildren (since 2010 with Tildren) and now an ongoing experience with Osphos. It stands to reason that it will appear that the first treatment will be the most benefical, you're taking a lame horse and hopefully making it sound, you are going to notice this. The follow up treatments are maintaining that soundness so probably not so noticeable. I am currently doing the Osphos every 6 to 7 months as a maintenance and my horse has shown absolutely no signs of any diminishing benefits from the drug (thank goodness). I just spoke with my vet after seeing this, she states she has received no information regarding this. She in turned called one of the best lameness vets here in Texas and he said the same, he hasn't received any documented information in regards to this. I would love to gets my hand on the information your vet obtained regardiing this. Thanks! |
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When I click on the link to the article it says file not found. Does anyone perhaps have it downloaded they could possibly send it to me, I really want to read this article.
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Location: Lost in Texas | RunfastNTurn - 2015-10-15 1:25 PM When I click on the link to the article it says file not found. Does anyone perhaps have it downloaded they could possibly send it to me, I really want to read this article.
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I still had it pulled up. Send me your email and I'll send it to you. |
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| casualdust07 - 2015-09-11 7:03 AM
have any of y'all used it on a horse with an issue other than navicular?
Currently using it for arthritis in neck, back and overall discomfort. Said horse is 18 ran on the track as a 2 year and was futurities at 4. As long as he stays on it he doesn’t need previcox. |
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Location: Arkansas | run n rate - 2015-10-14 11:55 AM
So took CC for a ride down the creek last night. Now CC is the worlds worst trail horse, there is nothing soothing about it to her, she doesn't care for rabbits and deer popping out of bushes and birds flying suddenly from trees, she'd much rather lope a circle in a space she knows well. Normally you have to ride two handed and guide her on the way out much like a 2 year old colt and be ready for the bolt action if a deer does bust out and she decides that is the cue to GO HOME to SAFETY!!!! And the trip home is full blown "lets get the H E double toothpicks out of here!" Last night she actually walked down the creek without her normal anxiety and was controllable on the way home, she did lookey lou around like normal, but I'll take that.
Do you think the difference is the Cur Ost? |
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| Bumping this back up, did any of your vets recommend time off AFTER giving the Osphos? I used it last year one time and was told it may not take effect right away but wouldnt hurt to use the horse in the mean time. Thanks! I am exploring options and am on the fence on if I am going to use it again. I know the side effects and am currently in research mode weighing costs and benefits of its use. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Tucker got his shot of Osphos October 10th of last fall. He had very slight changes to the navicular and coffin bones but he is 15 and has had a lot of things done with him, cutting, reined cow horse and barrel racing. As I said, I also added Cur-Ost to the changes we made with him. He did come up slightly off on the left front at his vet appt. in February but because of truck issues he was excedeingly long on his shoeing too. Once we got him re-balanced and the vet watched him move on hard rocky ground I was given the go ahead to get him fit to run this spring. |
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| I asked my vet about OsPhos. He isn't sold on it. Flitastic, is your horse sore again? I would try oxysox and hoof intensify along with the TNP from Oxygen. Or TLC has a good product Equibone . But be sure you get it in the pellets. |
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| readytorodeo - 2016-03-08 12:10 PM
I asked my vet about OsPhos. He isn't sold on it. Flitastic, is your horse sore again? I would try oxysox and hoof intensify along with the TNP from Oxygen. Or TLC has a good product Equibone . But be sure you get it in the pellets.
No, not really! LOL Sound as a dollar to xrays and flex tests.. Just looking at options at this point. |
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Location: Texas | FLITASTIC - 2016-03-08 1:31 PM
Bumping this back up, did any of your vets recommend time off AFTER giving the Osphos? I used it last year one time and was told it may not take effect right away but wouldnt hurt to use the horse in the mean time. Thanks! I am exploring options and am on the fence on if I am going to use it again. I know the side effects and am currently in research mode weighing costs and benefits of its use.
Yes, I was told to give them time off.
I was considering using Osphos for one but after going to the national convention and listening to what clinicians are saying about it, it sounds kind of scary. Most definitely don't put Tilden or Osphos in joints. And they are finding now there is an increased indicence of pathologic fractures with it. The theory is, they know its remodeling bone, but its not necessarily remodeling bone correctly. It's described in the same way that women experienced femur fractures after having been on a similar medicine for osteoporosis. I'm going to keep watching it from a distance and see what the big lameness guys think over time. The vibe I got was it was falling out of favor a little bit. |
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| casualdust07 - 2016-03-08 4:18 PM
FLITASTIC - 2016-03-08 1:31 PM
Bumping this back up, did any of your vets recommend time off AFTER giving the Osphos? I used it last year one time and was told it may not take effect right away but wouldnt hurt to use the horse in the mean time. Thanks! I am exploring options and am on the fence on if I am going to use it again. I know the side effects and am currently in research mode weighing costs and benefits of its use.
Yes, I was told to give them time off.
I was considering using Osphos for one but after going to the national convention and listening to what clinicians are saying about it, it sounds kind of scary. Most definitely don't put Tilden or Osphos in joints. And they are finding now there is an increased indicence of pathologic fractures with it. The theory is, they know its remodeling bone, but its not necessarily remodeling bone correctly. It's described in the same way that women experienced femur fractures after having been on a similar medicine for osteoporosis. I'm going to keep watching it from a distance and see what the big lameness guys think over time. The vibe I got was it was falling out of favor a little bit.
Well thats scary! Mine is doing great on it, but has only had one injection in Oct. Long term doesnt sound favorable. |
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| I did the Tildren- and am 90 days out. Made significant changes to the navicular bone and the coffin bone. I do not know how it changes his soundness due to joint infection. I think he is going to be sound but our last X-ray shows a large abscess in his toe area. So waiting on it to decide what it is doing. It will take a while due to the large amounts of antibiotics he was on.
They did recommend 60 of pasture rest and 30 days of light work before competing. This allows the bone to reform without extra things going on
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| Had an extensive conversation with my vet tonight about the concerns listed above. If used at the correct dose, age, and purpose it will not have the side effects. From what she was telling me some Thorobred race horse breeders are giving it to YEARLINGS monthly before the big sales. Crazy off label use. |
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