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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | In the old days this would have been handled with a rope. What happens between adults behind their private doors is their buisiness. But this is just not right for the girl of her age. |
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Location: So. California | Gunner11 - 2015-01-20 1:51 PM The more I think about it, the less it bothers me about the incest aspect, and the more it bothers me from a pedophilia standpoint. A four-year-old girl loses contact with her father, and (I'm just assuming here), grows up without a strong father-figure in her life. Twelve years later at the age of sixteen, her father reaches out to her to renew their relationship. He hasn't had contact with her in 12 years, so they don't have the strong father/daughter bond that typical parents and children have. They're essentially strangers. She comes to visit him, he sees her as a young, naive, impressionable child. Someone who he knows won't question his authority, and he manipulates her into believing that what they're doing and feeling is ok. Of course it's just speculation, but it's really not a stretch. So that's what really bothers me about it, a grown man preying on a teenager who can't comprehend the weight of her actions. Totally agree!! It's called "grooming" their victim. The girl was an impressionable young teenager, may have been dreaming about having a normal relationship with her father... Along he comes and he is nothing other than a sick pedophile, preying on an innocent young girl.
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Location: So. California | Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 1:07 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING. Way too many similarities to discount, just behind 10-15 years. They will make this a social issue, you watch and see.
Apples and oranges. It's impossible for a gay couple to procreate. |
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Location: Texas | Anniemae - 2015-01-21 1:06 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 1:07 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING. Way too many similarities to discount, just behind 10-15 years. They will make this a social issue, you watch and see.
So if the father is shooting blanks it is ok to you? |
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| pinx05 - 2015-01-21 2:18 AM
Anniemae - 2015-01-21 1:06 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 1:07 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother.  Gay people are BORN that way.  It is NOT a choice.  Incest is a totally different story.  Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING. Way too many similarities to discount, just behind 10-15 years. They will make this a social issue, you watch and see.Â
 No one here is saying that this particular story and the people (the dad, specifically ) in it aren't gross and wrong. I agree with the people who feel that this is pedophilia. I'm just tired of people comparing acts of pedophilia to gay people. |
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I posted this article because I just can't believe that this is ok with her family etc. And the child sounds so poorly educated if that transcript is truly how she speaks. Somehow some things in this world still manage to surprise me.
But...I really don't see what this has to do with gay marriage or any of that. It's apples and oranges. This is a sick adult taking advantage of a child that wanted a relationship with her father...he made it into a romantic relationship which should not be allowed due to her easily manipulated youth etc. That is wrong whatever the sex, religion, creed or color of the participants IMHO
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"Keep it simple, stupid."
stupid phrases we've come to know and yet, may have more impact than we realize. The ten commandments are not really Christian specific. Most religions will warn against stealing, cheating, lust and gluttony among other things. My point is, the more we stray from the "Simplicity" of those ten commandments the more and more the depraved will try and push for that extra mile. You can call it progress, but is it really? Look around, do you truly feel we have progressed in morality in this nation?
I have to great friends that I love deeply that are homosexual. They admit, they don't have a clue if they were "born that way" mainly, enviromental, stress and other factors played a role in their lifestyle choices. This situation with the father and daughter is not remotely close to homosexuality, yet opening the door for gay marriage, puts a crack in the foundation of our moral compass.
This country is lost beyond measure when we are now facing laws about speaking against Islam a religion that crucify gays and incest, and yet we protect the rights of these individuals through our constitution.
This father is sick, the daughter is desperate and because of the "Live and let live" lifestyle that fought hard to change the laws in our country, this woman is a victim and she doesn't even know it.
I wish like a fool we can all go back to when things were simpler, and the rules of morality were quite clear. Mayberry comes to mind.
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Location: Oklahoma | While I most definitely do not agree with incest, I'd say from a legal standpoint, how as a government can we tell them what they can and can't do?....That being said, I agree with a lot of you that in this situation, it sure seems like a man took advantage of a young lady who was underage, and in a very impressionable state. That I think is wrong.
As far as those who compare incest to gays…Yes, society as a whole changes over time. It's this thing called evolving and educating ourselves. We no longer see stoning as a proper way to deal with adultery (although I can think of a few cases people need it lol), we don't enslave people, so on and so forth. There was a time when interracial marriage was not an option. Guess what, we evolved and improved. There was a time gay marriage was not an option. Guess what, we are evolving. We are improving. The comment though that incest will be the next big social issue, I don’t agree with. I just don't think there are that many Americans that would care to rally for that. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | komet. - 2015-01-20 8:05 PM
GoGaited - 2015-01-20 7:46 PM
FlyingJT - 2015-01-20 3:04 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother.  Gay people are BORN that way.  It is NOT a choice.  Incest is a totally different story.  Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING. 
I'm sure they are way too busy looking for the cancer gene to bother about that..
Totally OT, but cancer's been cured 100 times over....I work in a lab and know scientists who have found 'cures', then the FDA wouldn't approve....population control, big pharma....whatever |
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Location: SE Louisiana | osu_barrelracer - 2015-01-21 5:10 PM
 While I most definitely do not agree with incest, I'd say from a legal standpoint, how as a government can we tell them what they can and can't do?....That being said, I agree with a lot of you that in this situation, it sure seems like a man took advantage of a young lady who was underage, and in a very impressionable state. That I think is wrong.
As far as those who compare incest to gays…Yes, society as a whole changes over time. It's this thing called evolving and educating ourselves. We no longer see stoning as a proper way to deal with adultery (although I can think of a few cases people need it lol), we don't enslave people, so on and so forth. There was a time when interracial marriage was not an option. Guess what, we evolved and improved. There was a time gay marriage was not an option. Guess what, we are evolving. We are improving. The comment though that incest will be the next big social issue, I don’t agree with. I just don't think there are that many Americans that would care to rally for that.
As far as interracial goes, I can remember way back in the early 60s there was a white man married to a black woman living next door to my mother's folks in Chicago. Incest vs gay? Why not have both?... or has nobody here heard of Aaron and Austin Rhodes? |
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Location: SE Louisiana | CanCan - 2015-01-21 7:36 PM
Komet - Don't make me google that.Â
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | komet. - 2015-01-21 7:42 PM CanCan - 2015-01-21 7:36 PM Komet - Don't make me google that. It's been headline news all week...
The gay couple with kids and the ad campaign?? I think I saw that today. For a BIG shoe company. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | total performance - 2015-01-21 7:47 PM
komet. - 2015-01-21 7:42 PM CanCan - 2015-01-21 7:36 PM Komet - Don't make me google that. It's been headline news all week...
No... the twin gay boys coming out to their dad over the phone before their stuff hits Youtube. |
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| osu_barrelracer - 2015-01-21 5:10 PM While I most definitely do not agree with incest, I'd say from a legal standpoint, how as a government can we tell them what they can and can't do?....
Isn't the very purpose of government to define what we must do or can't do? |
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| TXBO - 2015-01-23 6:02 AM osu_barrelracer - 2015-01-21 5:10 PM While I most definitely do not agree with incest, I'd say from a legal standpoint, how as a government can we tell them what they can and can't do?.... Isn't the very purpose of government to define what we must do or can't do?
We are dancing on the tips of swords. Let's say nothing is done about this and the couple can marry. Media will pick up on the news story. Now the door is open for every whack job to consider the unthinkable because now legal presedence has been set. "Well, if he can do it..."
What terrifies me more than anything...those sick bastards are everywhere. People these days are screwed up, drug induced maniacs. I can't stand society the way it is.
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