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| musikmaker - 2015-01-31 11:02 PM
Itsme - 2015-01-31 12:00 PM HAHHHAAA!!!! Now America NEEDS high fuel prices!  Now I understand why we keep electing the same morons over and over.
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Location: North Texas | The main reason The Feds desire High Fuel Prices is the Tax Revenue, Hence since fuel prices have dropped there has been noise made Politicans to raise the fuel tax to offset Government's Loss of Revenue. I could care about Government's Revenue! I already pay more 'n my share of Taxes cause I work for a living!
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Location: fun meter pegged OK | Clay, since the feds have a set rate rather than a percentage rate of tax on a gal. of gas; how are they loosing money. The United States federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon and 24.4 cents per gallon for diesel fuel. So no matter what we pay at the pump we're still paying the same tax (same with state tax) What hurt the FEDS is the fuel efficient vehicles that get better gas milage. Just food for thought. |
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Location: North Texas | yankeeredneck - 2015-02-01 6:27 AM Clay, since the feds have a set rate rather than a percentage rate of tax on a gal. of gas; how are they loosing money. The United States federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon and 24.4 cents per gallon for diesel fuel. So no matter what we pay at the pump we're still paying the same tax (same with state tax) What hurt the FEDS is the fuel efficient vehicles that get better gas milage. Just food for thought.
You just answered your own question: Fuel efficent vehicles. To include CNG Over the road trucks. This is one of the biggest losses of revenue for the Feds. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | foundation horse - 2015-02-01 5:46 AM yankeeredneck - 2015-02-01 6:27 AM Clay, since the feds have a set rate rather than a percentage rate of tax on a gal. of gas; how are they loosing money. The United States federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon and 24.4 cents per gallon for diesel fuel. So no matter what we pay at the pump we're still paying the same tax (same with state tax) What hurt the FEDS is the fuel efficient vehicles that get better gas milage. Just food for thought. You just answered your own question: Fuel efficent vehicles. To include CNG Over the road trucks. This is one of the biggest losses of revenue for the Feds.
Our national government was never intended to be in the business of accumulating revenue other than what is absolutely necessary to keep it running. That's why we no longer collect an import/export tax...that was the only means of revenue at one time, then they got 'smart' and added an excise tax to garner revenue from alcohol sales...Oh gosh...it's a web of deceipt & manipulation that goes way back. We've become accustomed to and even expect the gov't to provide things that we used to provide for ourselves...we're on the other side now (the slippery slope) with no way to stop.
During the 1930's a tax was implimented to build dams, bridges & roads...this tax was to be temporary. Of course it wasn't. However, the revenue was not 'saved' for maintenance or repairs (only states can have a rainy day fund) who knows what happened to it...this is the one thing that has so far prevented us from becoming a country 'ruled' by the fed...they simply do not have the authority or power to 'collect revenue with no purpose'. It must be earmarked. That's precisley what's wrong with social security...why the very money that is taken from our paychecks is not put in a safe place...it must be spent!
So now...here we are...the fuel tax was never dropped...yet, it wasn't earmarked for maintenance/repair either...now they must add another tax because they are terrible managers & it's not in their job description anyhow!
Let the states handle it...without the states we are not the United States of America.
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Location: fun meter pegged OK | foundation horse - 2015-02-01 5:35 AM The main reason The Feds desire High Fuel Prices is the Tax Revenue, Hence since fuel prices have dropped there has been noise made Politicans to raise the fuel tax to offset Government's Loss of Revenue. I could care about Government's Revenue! I already pay more 'n my share of Taxes cause I work for a living!
It was not a ?; it was as statement of fact. Misunderstood the meaning of what you wrote. Sorry. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | yankeeredneck - 2015-02-01 9:17 AM foundation horse - 2015-02-01 5:35 AM The main reason The Feds desire High Fuel Prices is the Tax Revenue, Hence since fuel prices have dropped there has been noise made Politicans to raise the fuel tax to offset Government's Loss of Revenue. I could care about Government's Revenue! I already pay more 'n my share of Taxes cause I work for a living!
It was not a ?; it was as statement of fact. Misunderstood the meaning of what you wrote. Sorry.
Actually, I don't think you misunderstood....even with fuel efficient vehicles, the Feds will not be losing money....With lower prices MORE fuel is being purchased.....However, my state wants to raise the state tax on fuel just because of that reason....they see more fuel being sold and they want MORE money..... |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | NJJ - 2015-02-01 8:30 AM yankeeredneck - 2015-02-01 9:17 AM foundation horse - 2015-02-01 5:35 AM The main reason The Feds desire High Fuel Prices is the Tax Revenue, Hence since fuel prices have dropped there has been noise made Politicans to raise the fuel tax to offset Government's Loss of Revenue. I could care about Government's Revenue! I already pay more 'n my share of Taxes cause I work for a living!
It was not a ?; it was as statement of fact. Misunderstood the meaning of what you wrote. Sorry.
Does it make you as sick as it does me? Lol.
When our elected officials become greedy...with our money...it's a sickness.
I often wonder how we got into this mess & one reason being the communities, cities, counties...states...started hiring and electing 'grant writers' to bring money in...the political promises that they made good on (unfortunately). It created a need & a justification for the fed to continue to collect & raise taxes, afterall, the bulk of it goes back to the states & communities! Job security. A can of worms.
I sure wish we had the guts & fortitude to refuse the hush money that's destroying our country.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | musikmaker - 2015-02-01 9:39 AM NJJ - 2015-02-01 8:30 AM yankeeredneck - 2015-02-01 9:17 AM foundation horse - 2015-02-01 5:35 AM The main reason The Feds desire High Fuel Prices is the Tax Revenue, Hence since fuel prices have dropped there has been noise made Politicans to raise the fuel tax to offset Government's Loss of Revenue. I could care about Government's Revenue! I already pay more 'n my share of Taxes cause I work for a living!
It was not a ?; it was as statement of fact. Misunderstood the meaning of what you wrote. Sorry.
When our elected officials become greedy...with our money...it's a sickness.
I often wonder how we got into this mess & one reason being the communities, cities, counties...states...started hiring and electing 'grant writers' to bring money in...the political promises that they made good on (unfortunately). It created a need & a justification for the fed to continue to collect & raise taxes, afterall, the bulk of it goes back to the states & communities! Job security. A can of worms.
I sure wish we had the guts & fortitude to refuse the hush money that's destroying our country.
IMO, the biggest problem in Congress is that all kinds of "pork barrel" funding is added to just about every bill that goes through committee......there is money tacked on here and there for every kind of "cause" the sponsors of the bill want to fund for their state....... |
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Location: fun meter pegged OK | It's called buying votes  |
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Location: North Texas | Itsme - 2015-02-01 9:43 AM Welcome to the "mileage tax".
Not happening. That is one thing the American Public will not accept.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I just saw on FB that the oil workers in Houston and across the US went on strike. |
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Location: southeast Texas | Nevertooold - 2015-02-01 2:57 PM I just saw on FB that the oil workers in Houston and across the US went on strike.
USW Calls for Work Stoppage at Nine Oil Refineries,
LyondellBasell in Houston, TX;
Marathon Galveston Bay Refinery in Texas City, TX;
Marathon Houston Green Cogeneration facility, Texas City, TX;
Marathon Refinery, Catlettsburg, Ky;
Shell Deer Park Refinery, Deer Park, TX;
Shell Deer Park Chemical Plant, Deer Park, TX;
Tesoro Anacortes Refinery, Anacortes, Wash.;
Tesoro Martinez Refinery, Martinez, Calif.; and
Tesoro Carson Refinery, Carson, Calif. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Nevertooold - 2015-02-01 2:57 PM I just saw on FB that the oil workers in Houston and across the US went on strike.
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| Friend of mine is involved in that strike. He was explaining why, and I couldn't follow it at all. Be plenty of scabs to take his place though. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | It's the steel workers who are striking.
http://abc13.com/news/oil-workers-on-strike-in-houston-and-across-us/499708/
Edited by ThreeCorners 2015-02-01 6:40 PM
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True. Tis the United Steel Workers Union striking against The Oil & Gas Industry NOT The Oil & Gas Refinery/Production Employees. Also, I am not aware of any Unionized Oil Field Hands. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | USW Spokeswoman Lynne Hancock said the union wants a three-year contract and is focused on health care costs, safety, the use of contractors and staffing concerns, as well as wages. |
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Location: North Texas | Saw a blurb yesterday where Oil Prices are 'up' world wide and attributed to U.S. Production Cutbacks. Anyway Diesel is up about 8cents here. At the least expensive fuel stop I mentioned. It is now $2.36.9 |
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