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Location: Where it is too cold, SD | Yep - if you are gonna weigh the rider .............and split up the class by the riders hair color.............and type of saddle used?
We better go beyond that and split up classes by the horse's height...........color............lefty's vs rightys.......and heck why not by what stud they are out of too
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| when it gets to these big payouts, leveling the playing field ain't such a bad idea . |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | I have never been one to want to win by default. I want to get beat by the best team on the day and if that means that little Suzie is going to use my donations to buy some My Little Ponies.... I hope she buys a sparkly pink one in my honor! |
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | If you're afraid of getting beat then don't compete. The more you regulate anything to be politically correct, the more convoluted it gets. Every horse and rider has advantages and disadvantages. If you want to make it equal, might as well give everyone an equal check just for showing up. Hello barrel racing communism. |
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | scared of sharks - 2015-02-27 3:17 AM when it gets to these big payouts, leveling the playing field ain't such a bad idea .
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | There is a girl in the area I ride that is every bit 300 pounds plus and she kicks all our butts so dividing by weight would not really work in the adult division. However I do think it is unfair to have tiny 50 pound kids competing for Big money $$on a pro level it's just not fair!! |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | Okay! I'm losing it! For all of you that don't want to have to run against the little ones, I've got the best idea ever! Just go to the little, local playdays where you can run in an age restricted division, suck and get a ribbon for your efforts, no matter how deplorable your run! That is all... |
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Location: Texas | angelica - 2015-02-27 10:00 AM There is a girl in the area I ride that is every bit 300 pounds plus and she kicks all our butts so dividing by weight would not really work in the adult division. However I do think it is unfair to have tiny 50 pound kids competing for Big money $$on a pro level it's just not fair!!
She paid her fees and ran in the same arena everyone else did. The only reason people are mad is because a 9 year old can ride better then most adults.
She still has to compete against world champions and NFR qualifiers, its not over yet. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Everybody that has tried out for the American has paid their dues in the barrel pen. Even Chaynie and the other young kids. The only reason we are all talking about it is because of the format that lets an underdog have a chance against the pro's. I am for the underdog because in the back of my head it means that maybe some other underdog or myself someday might have a chance at 5 minutes of fame. |
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  Playing the Waiting Game
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| DesignerShoes - 2015-02-27 1:29 AM Yep - if you are gonna weigh the rider .............and split up the class by the riders hair color.............and type of saddle used?
We better go beyond that and split up classes by the horse's height...........color............lefty's vs rightys.......and heck why not by what stud they are out of too
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
WHAT you're not going to WEIGH the horse?? |
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| WrapSnap - 2015-02-27 10:05 AM
Okay! I'm losing it! For all of you that don't want to have to run against the little ones, I've got the best idea ever! Just go to the little, local playdays where you can run in an age restricted division, suck and get a ribbon for your efforts, no matter how deplorable your run! That is all...
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 A very grounded girl
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Location: Moving soon..... | Open barrel race means just that! This thread is hilarious. If you are afraid of getting outrun by "anyone" you do not need to go. If at every barrel race I went to I didn't enter because who was there, I wouldn't enter. I guess you could just go to a playday and enter. |
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | I gave an opinion but at no point did I single out any specific child, it was a general statement and an opinion. No reason to be nasty just because some people look at things differently. Weight IS an advantage in horse racing of any type!! |
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Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | angelica - 2015-02-27 1:52 PM I gave an opinion but at no point did I single out any specific child, it was a general statement and an opinion. No reason to be nasty just because some people look at things differently. Weight IS an advantage in horse racing of any type!!
I can agree that weight can be an advantage but inexperience is also a huge disadvantage. The X each other out in my opinion. |
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | I know my 7 year old son can ride better than me period and I have been riding all my life he just has "IT". I am simply old school and think only adults should run with adults for money. Yes kids events for money are fine but kids running with kids. Anyway its just an opinion. And yes experience usually wins, I agree with that statement! |
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| Mighty Broke - 2015-02-27 1:56 PM
angelica - 2015-02-27 1:52 PM I gave an opinion but at no point did I single out any specific child, it was a general statement and an opinion. No reason to be nasty just because some people look at things differently. Weight IS an advantage in horse racing of any type!!
I can agree that weight can be an advantage but inexperience is also a huge disadvantage. The X each other out in my opinion.
Exactly!
There are a lot of horses that can get a lil kid there BUT only phenomenal horses (Hot Shot) that are automatic can keep a lil kid there. The ones that need tuned on to stay right will come apart if the parents or trainer the kid has are not able to put the tune back into the horse. Some horses are automatic and easy to ride, they will get a kid there. Those horses are smooth and make it look effortless. Some horses are dirty fast and make mistakes but can still get there, harder for an experienced rider to get by on this kind. But there are some horses that make a move to be able to clock such as mulberry...a hard fast turner whose moves around the barrel beat you, real hard for a kid to ride. All can clock and take your money any given saturday! |
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Location: Dubach, LA | You want the best riders there? Make them draw for their rides - like rough stock riders. (NBHA does this in Italy)
You want the fastest horses? Then weight matters and very few owners would be riding.
You want entertainment? Throw some cute kids in there.
You want fair? How about fewer runs in the semis and an average like the team ropers have?
Do we have the top combos riding on Sunday? No. The dirt decided that on Saturday and Sunday in Ft. Worth.
Do I love the American? Yes. It's great publicity for rodeo.
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | You guys know this has been done already? 3 day eventing. They used to make riders that were lighter do their cross country day with weights. Riders had to be weighed with their saddle and weights were added appropriately. That has been done away with in eventing for years, and last time I checked. The very tall (and thereby heavier) men *coughWilliamFoxPittcough* have been kicking A$$ against much smaller riders. Weight is only one of many factors that impacts performance. |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | CanCan - 2015-02-27 12:58 PMYou want the best riders there? Make them draw for their rides - like rough stock riders. (NBHA does this in Italy)
You want the fastest horses? Then weight matters and very few owners would be riding.
You want entertainment? Throw some cute kids in there.
You want fair? How about fewer runs in the semis and an average like the team ropers have?
Do we have the top combos riding on Sunday? No. The dirt decided that on Saturday and Sunday in Ft. Worth.
Do I love the American? Yes. It's great publicity for rodeo.
I would love to draw for rides. How much freaking fun would it be to get the chance to ride some bad @$$ super fun horses. This would be a ball
Edited by willrodeo4food 2015-02-27 5:30 PM
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | willrodeo4food - 2015-02-27 5:29 PM
CanCan - 2015-02-27 12:58 PMYou want the best riders there? Make them draw for their rides - like rough stock riders. (NBHA does this in Italy)
You want the fastest horses? Then weight matters and very few owners would be riding.
You want entertainment? Throw some cute kids in there.
You want fair? How about fewer runs in the semis and an average like the team ropers have?
Do we have the top combos riding on Sunday? No. The dirt decided that on Saturday and Sunday in Ft. Worth.
Do I love the American? Yes. It's great publicity for rodeo.
I would love to draw for rides. How much freaking fun would it be to get the chance to ride some bad @$$ super fun horses. This would be a ball
In one way it would be cool but I would NEVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER let a stranger on my horse. Even people I know well would have to be REALLY good riders before I let them touch him. |
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