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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2015-03-13 1:14 PM
Subject: RE: Breed prejudice rant



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You can't hold it against people when it comes to preferences, it's a free country and the nice part about having lots to choose from. I sold a yearling to a friend of mine and someone at her barn ripped him apart saying how horrible he was and how he would never grow, etc. She liked the tall warm blood, half workhorse types and this horse was a reining/working cow bred Q/H. The owner thought after listening to her that she made a mistake, I said what do you want to do... rein (she told me she wanted to get into it) or jump/dressage; I said I would buy him back if need be. Needless to say she kept the reiner and now thinks the chick is crazy because she loves everything about him. Her 5 year old daughter can lead and play around him too. He is finishing out 15hh now and everyone's happy.

I personally would love to add a loud spotted appy to my heard for personal use, I likely wouldn't breed for resale due to the demand but I love them. I am very picky about their bloodlines as well and will test them (5 panel, and pssm type 2) due to some reading I've done on health history with the breed.

To each their own.

ETA: Give me the perfect paint and I'd take it too... I am just very picky about my stock and no one should take offense about my preferences.

Edited by ndiehl 2015-03-13 1:18 PM
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Ashton94
Reg. Feb 2014
Posted 2015-03-13 1:15 PM
Subject: RE: Breed prejudice rant



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Murphy - 2015-03-13 12:53 PM

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astreakinchic - 2015-03-13 11:49 AM I've been waiting for Amy or someone on here to mention Lena may
There was another Troubled Memories mare who won 4k at Patriot futurity a couple weeks ago. I stalk Trouble horses because I have a 2 year old filly by him. and I LOVE her.

Here is a 2 year old by TM. He's the baby in my avatar. 

 

I had a feeling he was a Trouble baby when you commented in this thread a few pages back that he was an appy without spots. Troubled Memories is the only race bred app I know that throws solids. I would post a pic of my filly, but it won't let me. She's solid red with a dot of white between her eyes. I was actually hoping for some spots. I enjoy watching colored horses run. I like paints too obviously. BUT of course, my mare in my avatar had a sorrel when I bred her to Smoke N Sparks. Lol I was just meant to have sorrels I guess. This is my fillys pedigree - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/shezalottatrouble . What's your boys pedigree?
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Tailwind
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-03-13 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: Breed prejudice rant



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I love apps.  I had a really neat one years ago .  He was the only horse I have ever sold that I regreted  selling, but at the time I had to cut back and he sold first..   I mostly  have had geldings, but have had 4 really nice mares, one a paint mare I  have now.  When my husband was growing up everone said  paints  were crazy.Of course that  is not true, rank horses come in all colors. Have had great gelding,& stupid geldings.  I will look at most anything to see it matches up with my personality.  I don't judge by sex or color, but I guess some do,  but like Kim said (Trailgirl)  Their loss  

Edited by Tailwind 2015-03-13 1:55 PM
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-03-13 1:30 PM
Subject: RE: Breed prejudice rant



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Ashton94 - 2015-03-13 2:15 PM
Murphy - 2015-03-13 12:53 PM
Ashton94 - 2015-03-13 1:42 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-03-13 11:49 AM I've been waiting for Amy or someone on here to mention Lena may
There was another Troubled Memories mare who won 4k at Patriot futurity a couple weeks ago. I stalk Trouble horses because I have a 2 year old filly by him. and I LOVE her.
Here is a 2 year old by TM. He's the baby in my avatar. 



 
I had a feeling he was a Trouble baby when you commented in this thread a few pages back that he was an appy without spots. Troubled Memories is the only race bred app I know that throws solids. I would post a pic of my filly, but it won't let me. She's solid red with a dot of white between her eyes. I was actually hoping for some spots. I enjoy watching colored horses run. I like paints too obviously. BUT of course, my mare in my avatar had a sorrel when I bred her to Smoke N Sparks. Lol I was just meant to have sorrels I guess. This is my fillys pedigree - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/shezalottatrouble . What's your boys pedigree?

I actually sold him as a weanling to a gal in PA. She adores him. These colts seem to be super sweet.

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/im+leaving+with+hank 
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lhighquality
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2015-03-13 4:03 PM
Subject: RE: Breed prejudice rant


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This is a friend of mines stallion, he's deceased now, but most of their rope horses are sons & daughters of his!!

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UTAHCANCHASER
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-03-13 4:42 PM
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One day I would love to own a loud colored app but it must have a tail and mane.  I have seen some that are really fast!  Kristen Weaver ran one that the NFR and he was a cool dude.  I would also take a paint.  I don't care what they are as long as they are good looking.

I probably will never own anther grey horse ever!  Every one I have had as had a screw or two loose.  Will never own anther Beduino either....  
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-03-13 5:28 PM
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Every time I went for beauty in a horse {Quarter} like color, they were always a nut case or would cripple up, so now all I have out here are browns and sorrel's and bay. My beautiful pally colt that I bought as a yearling has navicular so he gets to spent the rest of his life in my pasture.
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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-03-13 6:58 PM
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Horses involve a lot of time, effort and money, so why should anyone commit to an animal of a size, shape, color, breed etc. that does not fit the program they envision for themselves.  

If people like a type or breed that is less popular that is fine, but please do not get offended if it is not my preference and DO NOT try to cram your choices down my throat. 
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fastwrapn3
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2015-03-13 8:01 PM
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I have always had appaloosas always! Why ride a horse that is a generic color when you can have a horse that flashes when he runs. My bias, no mares, got to have color and breeding!!
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Delta Cowgirl
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2015-03-13 8:05 PM
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I respect and admire good horses regardless of breed, color or sex. I would never cull a horse from purchase because of breed or color -- if the horse meets my needs, he or she can come home with me. I've owned and ridden some mighty nice Quarter Horses and some mighty nice Appaloosas. An Appaloosa put me through college via a rodeo scholarship and assisted me and the other team members in winning two straight NIRA Regional Team Championships. He was coal black with a white blanket with big black spots, had a star and white tips on his ears. He attracted attention. Totally. Of course the color got everyone's attention, then he did his job and he had everyone's respect. He ran barrel times right with the girls who were running WPRA and he was a way above-average rope horse. I also won several reining championships riding him and lots of team ropings. And, he was one of the best goat horses to have ever walked into the pen. His nickname in the rodeo world was Cash Register. I have even had an extremely nice Paint mare that was a scorpion of a barrel horse and a 19-second pole horse. Right now I have a Warmblood in my barn - a very nice mare. Love her. You can purchase a lot of quality for a good price when looking at the colorful ponies... and that's not a bad thing for those on a budget who want to win. A few years back I bought a very nice Appaloosa gelding out of a girl's backyard in Kentucky.... 14 months later he won a World Championship on his first out at the world show and has gone on to win many world and national titles. He oozed potential..... and for $1800 we put him in a trailer and headed home -- and told the seller that we were going to "win the world" with him which we certainly did many times.... being a certain breed and / or paying big prices does not guarantee anything... I stay open-minded to breeds and possibilities -- this attitude has taken me lots of fun places and placed me on the back of some incredible horses that carried me to great wins and great memories.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-03-13 8:12 PM
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SC Wrangler - 2015-03-13 6:58 PM

Horses involve a lot of time, effort and money, so why should anyone commit to an animal of a size, shape, color, breed etc. that does not fit the program they envision for themselves.  

If people like a type or breed that is less popular that is fine, but please do not get offended if it is not my preference and DO NOT try to cram your choices down my throat. 

I agree with SC Wrangler. However I bought an App filly on purpose. I saw Troubled Memories when he stood down here. I wanted my sister to breed her Flaming Jet mare to him. He was by far the best looking, heaviest boned stud Dr. Wilkinson stood at the time. She wouldn't because he was an App. I love my filly, she is really level headed and sweet. Can hardly wait to get her broke. Oh, and she has the app characteristics. Not thrilled about the mottled skin around her eyes but I do like her roan/app color.
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fastwrapn3
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2015-03-13 8:18 PM
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All my life as long as I can remember it was an appaloosa I wanted to ride, I can remember seeing Navajo Joe on the front of Western Horseman when I was about 8 or nine and I was in love. Never considered riding anything else, funny I never thought about it being unusual, a good appaloosa barrelhorse was hard to find and when I saw him he was so beautiful, I told the seller I don't care if he never runs barrels (he was a good barrel horse! ) Everybody loved him, he was such a great horse, mind, body temperament!!
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Rolling J
Reg. Mar 2009
Posted 2015-03-13 8:19 PM
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I did not read all the responses but I WILL take everyone's Appaloosas and Paints. Just send them my way
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-03-14 5:15 PM
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I have ridden Well broke primo , well bred appys. I have broke appys and barrel raced appys. I even love a loud appy. But I will put it this way. I am looking for a loud large full mane and tail appy stud black with big spots across the rump. But I have yet to find a "Good" one. As a Nez Perce would say I will keep looking. Truly I don't mind a good app just not my cup of tea.
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Truxno Girl
Reg. Jul 2010
Posted 2015-03-14 11:02 PM
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I love my app. He is awesome. He run in the woods with 6 dogs running up behind him, stopping in front of him, and throwing up deer without balking. He always takes care of me in the arena as well. My trainer loved him....said he was smart and honest. He will always be my special "Bob" (Magnolia Moon River), and if I could find another one like him...I would buy another app in a heart beat. That is him in my avatar.



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streakysox
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-03-15 11:47 AM
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I have been riding for 62 years. We had an App that we raised. The only time that I have been hurt bad enough to be hospitalized was riding him. I broke him, as I have done all of my horses. The more you rode him the goofier he got. We sold him cheap. Don't think I will have another.

Obviously, I own a paint. He has never figured out that he is a paint. He almost did figure it out at the World Paint Horse Show, but not quite.
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LRQHS
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2015-03-16 12:36 PM
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Rolling J - 2015-03-13 8:19 PM I did not read all the responses but I WILL take everyone's Appaloosas and Paints. Just send them my way

Sadly, I sold Spook and Captain Hook in the 80's, but if I hadn't, they'd be on a trailer headed to you yesterday lol. 
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-03-16 2:12 PM
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Back in the 1980's appy's were an up and coming breed and had a lot of followers but meanwhile the appy horse club went crazy with color only this and that and no color can't be registered and can't do this and that and all kinds of crap ... just pull up their rule book and you will see why people do not want to mess with the appy association with all of their innuendo's and of course their shows can't pull enough horses to get any points even if they are a leopard appy ...
I owned an appy blanketed mare by Joker B .. and bred her to a qh Go Zipp Go and had a filly with a big half body blanket ... appy club kept messing around with this and that and on and on until I had $700+ in nonsense fees .. I filled out the same paperwork a 100 times .... so I just gave the mare and filly away

APHA .... AMERICAN PAINT HORSE ASSOCIATION .... FINANCIAL REPORT ..
The paint horse association is in a downhill spiral with the number of remaining members and registrations due to the same stupidity with color only can do this and that .... 37% of their registrations are solid colored paints who they treat like step kids and are headed for the same demise as the appy horse club ... you never know what new rule pertaining to color APHA is going to do tomorrow for instant implementation which omits 3 years of previous breeding going by the previous rules ... breeders can't take the losses when we all know at the best odds is a 50-50 chance of throwing color even with all colored horses in the pedigree ... I almost had to give away a solid paint daughter of Dash For Perks to get her gone ... I do not own any paints now because of the color rules of APHA ..

Look at their last financial report on memberships, registrations, percentages of color etc etc .. pay particular attention to pages 25 and and 28 to see how the membership and registrations have fallen from 2009 to 2013 .... keep in mind their show numbers are created by combining shows, forced entries and double counting ...
Barrel racers are all too familiar with the recent rule change prohibiting solid paints to be included in the PAC side pots for paints .... and race trackers just got hit with another instant rule on solids have to have double the number of paint parents vs a colored foal to compete on the track ...
READ AND WEEP ...
PAGES 25 AND 28 ...
http://press.apha.com/pdfs/annualreports/2013annualreport.pdf

The simple truth for both associations is to stop the color nonsense, close their books to TB's, quarterhorses, and cropouts and let solids and coloreds compete on the same level in the same classes as long as they have one registered paint in their pedigrees .... no full bloodied qh's etc etc ...

Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2015-03-16 2:18 PM
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ajs2002
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-03-16 2:29 PM
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The ApHC has had a good plan for solids for at least the last 10 years or so. You now just buy a permit if your horse is solid and go ahead and show. Our shows are very good sized with most of our basic classes being 2 points as a rule and our Open gaming classes running in the 4-5 point zone. Youth a NP being in the  3-4 point area. You might want to take another look at the ApHC we have come along way since the late 80's early 90's.
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crapshooter
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2015-03-16 8:08 PM
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UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-03-13 2:42 PM One day I would love to own a loud colored app but it must have a tail and mane.  I have seen some that are really fast!  Kristen Weaver ran one that the NFR and he was a cool dude.  I would also take a paint.  I don't care what they are as long as they are good looking.



I probably will never own anther grey horse ever!  Every one I have had as had a screw or two loose.  Will never own anther Beduino either....  

Have you ever noticed grey horses are only good after they turn white? 
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