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| Who says the draft is done? You mean required military service? A draft is forced military service in a time of need. Its still there if needed. We just don't need it with enlistments and drones/computerized warfare. I doubt anyone will ever be drafted again, but all 18 year old boys HAVE to still sign up.
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-05-01 1:27 PM
Who says the draft is done? You mean required military service? A draft is forced military service in a time of need. Its still there if needed. We just don't need it with enlistments and drones/computerized warfare. I doubt anyone will ever be drafted again, but all 18 year old boys HAVE to still sign up.
https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm
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Location: Arkansas | Itsme - 2015-05-01 1:09 PM Lobo - 2015-05-01 1:05 PM We were military from the early 50's to early 70's. Personally, I think it was a big mistake to do away with the draft. I see alot of these young hoodlums who would greatly benifit from two year's under the tutlage of a Drill S
argent. By the time that Drill Sargent got through locking their heels' together and chewing on them, they'd have a trade, work ethic, disipline and a whole new vocabulary. NO WAY! I dont want my kid fighting one of these fake ass wars we have nowadays.
Then, I can ass-u-me that you've taught your child to be a good citizen. By example. | |
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| Lobo - 2015-05-01 1:45 PM Itsme - 2015-05-01 1:09 PM Lobo - 2015-05-01 1:05 PM We were military from the early 50's to early 70's. Personally, I think it was a big mistake to do away with the draft. I see alot of these young hoodlums who would greatly benifit from two year's under the tutlage of a Drill S
argent. By the time that Drill Sargent got through locking their heels' together and chewing on them, they'd have a trade, work ethic, disipline and a whole new vocabulary. NO WAY! I dont want my kid fighting one of these fake ass wars we have nowadays.
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Location: Texas | GLP - 2015-05-01 1:26 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-01 8:20 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-01 7:01 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-30 10:49 PM Bear - 2015-04-30 10:43 PM Vickie - 2015-04-30 6:40 PM Bear - 2015-04-30 10:31 AM I honestly think that the Democrat powers-to-be actually are behind most of these crises. They want them to grow and divert attention away from the debacles that are of their doing, particularly Hillary's mounting scandals. This is giving her some time to reconfigure her lies and deceptions and takes the heat off her. In a sense, this is a "wag the dog" maneuver, and the thugs are their operatives. Democrats need deep divisions, misery, poverty, and chaos in order to survive. If their isn't enough, they create it themselves. They need victims......black victims, gay victims, impoverished victims, jobless victims, female victims, you name it. The paradox is that, in reality, they actually love all of those things they claim to be fighting against. When any of those things seem to be decreasing, they stir it up, or even manufacture it. Why? Because a few select elites at the top can profit from it.....case in point, Al Gore. Case in point, the Clintons. Case in point, Obozo. Come on, the conspirisy theory? No, just thugs, there is no planning or wisdom behind this stuff. How things haven't changed, I remember Watts. 20 years later the residents were complaining there were no business willing to rebuild their burned out neighborhood. History ignored is history repeated. Absolutely, I think there is an element of the progressive movement that does whatever it can to incite things like this. For example, Al Sharpton, the Black Panters, and a whole host of liberal Democrats who love to point out to people that they are victims. They have spent their lives dividing people. Victimology is their main tool. They feel owed because they are victims of racism, or sexism, or whatever. There is never enough welfare and "programs". They hold these people hostage to false hopes that are never delivered to a sufficient extent. Racism will never die because progressive liberals are the racists and they go to great lengths to preserve it. Your are describing my high school to a T, too. We had one black family move in and all of us were soo excited. The first year there the oldest daughter won a spot on the cheerleading team and on several UIL acedemic teams, her sister who was my age, played basketball and was one of the nicest most outgoing girls I have ever known. This was back in the late '70's/early '80's. I am tired of the slave rhetoric. EVERY RACE HAS BEEN ENSLAVED AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER IN HISTORY! The black people are the only ones that can't seem to rise above it collectively as a race. GET OVER IT PEOPLE.
Same here. I would say we were about 98% white, we had 2 special needs black twins and then 1 black girl that was very popular. Maybe 5 hispanics and 1 oriental guy. Everyone got along fine, and race wasn't an issue.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | jbhoot - 2015-05-01 1:42 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-05-01 1:27 PM
Who says the draft is done? You mean required military service? A draft is forced military service in a time of need. Its still there if needed. We just don't need it with enlistments and drones/computerized warfare. I doubt anyone will ever be drafted again, but all 18 year old boys HAVE to still sign up.
https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm
Yep and it should apply to girls too IMO.
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-01 8:48 PM
jbhoot - 2015-05-01 1:42 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-05-01 1:27 PM
Who says the draft is done? You mean required military service? A draft is forced military service in a time of need. Its still there if needed. We just don't need it with enlistments and drones/computerized warfare. I doubt anyone will ever be drafted again, but all 18 year old boys HAVE to still sign up.
https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm
Yep and it should apply to girls too IMO.
Nope.
Why? Are they not citizens also? | |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | jbhoot - 2015-05-01 7:53 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-01 8:48 PM jbhoot - 2015-05-01 1:42 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-05-01 1:27 PM Who says the draft is done? You mean required military service? A draft is forced military service in a time of need. Its still there if needed. We just don't need it with enlistments and drones/computerized warfare. I doubt anyone will ever be drafted again, but all 18 year old boys HAVE to still sign up. https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm Yep and it should apply to girls too IMO. Nope. Why? Are they not citizens also?
I have to agree with the nope. I feel I am pretty bad A$$ and KNOW I could make it through basic. Not joining the military is my only regret and it was my own stupid fault because I was busy being 17 and bucking the system (my dad). My family for generations served in the Army and my dad wanted me to join as well. I was just hard headed. My point is that of all my friends and all the daughters my friends have since had, not a one of those is someone I would feel secure serving with. I don't think women in general are the best choice for military. The ones that DO serve, have my highest respect. I am not knocking them, but I don't think a draft for women would be in the best interest of this country. It should be a choice and let those women be the ones that make that choice. | |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-01 10:20 PM
jbhoot - 2015-05-01 7:53 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-01 8:48 PM jbhoot - 2015-05-01 1:42 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-05-01 1:27 PM Who says the draft is done? You mean required military service? A draft is forced military service in a time of need. Its still there if needed. We just don't need it with enlistments and drones/computerized warfare. I doubt anyone will ever be drafted again, but all 18 year old boys HAVE to still sign up. https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm Yep and it should apply to girls too IMO. Nope. Why? Are they not citizens also?
So no choice if you are a man but choice if you are a girl. How does that relate to being a citizen of the country and doing your duty to serve same country. The draft as it stands at present is only in case of all out war. At that point why not women? | |
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Location: Florida.. | women that serve and choose to, do a dang good job.. but anyone knows you cant make a woman do anything they dont want to.. | |
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Location: Prosser, WA | Lobo - 2015-05-01 11:05 AM
We were military from the early 50's to early 70's. Personally, I think it was a big mistake to do away with the draft. I see alot of these young hoodlums who would greatly benifit from two year's under the tutlage of a Drill S
argent. By the time that Drill Sargent got through locking their heels' together and chewing on them, they'd have a trade, work ethic, disipline and a whole new vocabulary.
Would it really help? There are gangs in the military. Bloods, Crops, being in the military doesn't seem to stop gang activity. | |
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Location: Prosser, WA | Obama really had the chance of a lifetime. He could really have made a difference by uniting this country. There are always going to be racists out there as long as there are different races. But we are at a point in our country where we have elected a minority as president twice. Thirty or forty years ago that never would have happened. I think as a country we have come a long way. Look at how many elected officials are minorities. I really feel it is a small amount of all races that are stirring this up. We had the Mexican guy shot by the cops in front of a bunch of people and on video in Pasco, not too far from us. My hats off to the local protesters. They have and are still protesting peacefully. There were some out of towners from Seattle, Spokane and Portland that came in and tried to stir things up. A good share of the local protesters complained about them and even cleaned up after them when they left. There are some that just live to stir up any kind of animosity they can. They had a video on Facebook of their chant. Black lives matter, Latino lives matter, all lives matter. Just seemed weird when the guy killed was Latino.Also the news has came out with the fact that one of the police officers that shot him had actually pulled this same guy away from a fire less than two months before. I'm not saying all police are innocent of any wrong doing I just don't feel that all of this is race related. | |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | jbhoot - 2015-05-01 10:10 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-01 10:20 PM jbhoot - 2015-05-01 7:53 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-01 8:48 PM jbhoot - 2015-05-01 1:42 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-05-01 1:27 PM Who says the draft is done? You mean required military service? A draft is forced military service in a time of need. Its still there if needed. We just don't need it with enlistments and drones/computerized warfare. I doubt anyone will ever be drafted again, but all 18 year old boys HAVE to still sign up. https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm Yep and it should apply to girls too IMO. Nope. Why? Are they not citizens also? So no choice if you are a man but choice if you are a girl. How does that relate to being a citizen of the country and doing your duty to serve same country. The draft as it stands at present is only in case of all out war. At that point why not women?
Because I feel in general, men and women are not created equal. I don't feel anyone is equal in intelligence, work ethic, ability.
I am not a super feminist-sorry, nor do I feel we shoud be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen. Woman can and have worked most jobs successfully. I feel women can do so many things, but a draft is so random and of all the women I know, I couldn't pick but a small handful that I would want to fight beside. Of all the men I know, maybe 10 would be a poor choice. Better odds therre. Men are stronger (in general), men can handle the situations brought about in war better (in general). How many little girls do you see playing Army and playing strategic war games. I just don't feel unless a woman enlists and gets through basic of her own accord, that they have any place in the military. I am not dissing women, but this is one of the things that SUCK about America. We need to stop trying to make everyone equal. We are not. Some are good at some things, others not so much. Just part of life. Go with what you are good at. And by the way, I have 2 boys. So it's not like I am trying to keep my daughters out of a war. I would be honored if my sons joined the military. My grandpa and his 2 brothers were drafted in WWII. My dad joined the day he turned 18 for the Vietnam conflict. He was sent to Germany instead which still bothers him to this day. He didn't join up to be sent to an allied country.
I don't want to get flamed, just stating my heart felt opinion. | |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-02 8:53 AM jbhoot - 2015-05-01 10:10 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-01 10:20 PM jbhoot - 2015-05-01 7:53 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-01 8:48 PM jbhoot - 2015-05-01 1:42 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-05-01 1:27 PM Who says the draft is done? You mean required military service? A draft is forced military service in a time of need. Its still there if needed. We just don't need it with enlistments and drones/computerized warfare. I doubt anyone will ever be drafted again, but all 18 year old boys HAVE to still sign up. https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm Yep and it should apply to girls too IMO. Nope. Why? Are they not citizens also? So no choice if you are a man but choice if you are a girl. How does that relate to being a citizen of the country and doing your duty to serve same country. The draft as it stands at present is only in case of all out war. At that point why not women?
I am not a super feminist-sorry, nor do I feel we shoud be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen. Woman can and have worked most jobs successfully. I feel women can do so many things, but a draft is so random and of all the women I know, I couldn't pick but a small handful that I would want to fight beside. Of all the men I know, maybe 10 would be a poor choice. Better odds therre. Men are stronger (in general), men can handle the situations brought about in war better (in general). How many little girls do you see playing Army and playing strategic war games. I just don't feel unless a woman enlists and gets through basic of her own accord, that they have any place in the military. I am not dissing women, but this is one of the things that SUCK about America. We need to stop trying to make everyone equal. We are not. Some are good at some things, others not so much. Just part of life. Go with what you are good at. And by the way, I have 2 boys. So it's not like I am trying to keep my daughters out of a war. I would be honored if my sons joined the military. My grandpa and his 2 brothers were drafted in WWII. My dad joined the day he turned 18 for the Vietnam conflict. He was sent to Germany instead which still bothers him to this day. He didn't join up to be sent to an allied country.
I don't want to get flamed, just stating my heart felt opinion.
 When I was younger, I was all about the "girl power" and we can do anything a man can do..... However, with age comes wisdom and I realize God made the genders differently for a purpose. Women are stronger in some areas and men in others...we are designed that way on purpose.
And you are 100% right we are not all created equally. Even if we are born of the same race and gender that does not automatically make us equals. People need to focus on how to build themselves into the best person they can be and stop blaming others.
And to all the protesters (the ones choosing volience and destruction....not those voicing their opinions peacefully). You are not being held down, repressed, held back..... by "Whites" ....it is your OWN STUPID choices as to why you are not making something of your life.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I don't have a problem with women serving in the military, provided the same standards of fitness are applied to women and men, particularly in combat roles. I don't want to see women allowed into combat roles if they can't meet the same fitness standards that are applied to men. Actually, I can see where a brigade of physically fit women could be serious ass kickers, particularly if they all are synchronized and get raging PMS at the same time.
Turn a brigade of these women with raging PMS loose in Iraq against ISIS and watch them run away like a covey of quail on the backs of their camels.
In Israel, female conscription in the military is compulsory, with few exceptions......essentially the same as the draft. | |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-02 8:53 AM
jbhoot - 2015-05-01 10:10 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-05-01 10:20 PM jbhoot - 2015-05-01 7:53 PM Three 4 Luck - 2015-05-01 8:48 PM jbhoot - 2015-05-01 1:42 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-05-01 1:27 PM Who says the draft is done? You mean required military service? A draft is forced military service in a time of need. Its still there if needed. We just don't need it with enlistments and drones/computerized warfare. I doubt anyone will ever be drafted again, but all 18 year old boys HAVE to still sign up. https://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm Yep and it should apply to girls too IMO. Nope. Why? Are they not citizens also? So no choice if you are a man but choice if you are a girl. How does that relate to being a citizen of the country and doing your duty to serve same country. The draft as it stands at present is only in case of all out war. At that point why not women?
I am not a super feminist-sorry, nor do I feel we shoud be pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen. Woman can and have worked most jobs successfully. I feel women can do so many things, but a draft is so random and of all the women I know, I couldn't pick but a small handful that I would want to fight beside. Of all the men I know, maybe 10 would be a poor choice. Better odds therre. Men are stronger (in general), men can handle the situations brought about in war better (in general). How many little girls do you see playing Army and playing strategic war games. I just don't feel unless a woman enlists and gets through basic of her own accord, that they have any place in the military. I am not dissing women, but this is one of the things that SUCK about America. We need to stop trying to make everyone equal. We are not. Some are good at some things, others not so much. Just part of life. Go with what you are good at. And by the way, I have 2 boys. So it's not like I am trying to keep my daughters out of a war. I would be honored if my sons joined the military. My grandpa and his 2 brothers were drafted in WWII. My dad joined the day he turned 18 for the Vietnam conflict. He was sent to Germany instead which still bothers him to this day. He didn't join up to be sent to an allied country.
I don't want to get flamed, just stating my heart felt opinion.
Let me state that I was drafted in 1969 so I got to see it up close and personal. Many do not make it past the physical or mental tests at the reporting station. Many more do not make it out of basic training. Most of the jobs in the military do not involve combat. If this can apply to men I see no reason it would not apply to women. To me it has nothing to do with being a feminist it has to do with duty to country. The draft is for emergency's under those conditions I see no reason why this should not apply to women. I am not trying to flame you. Just stating how I feel. To me in an emergency it's all hands on deck and that includes women. | |
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Location: Florida | Bear - 2015-05-02 10:56 AM I don't have a problem with women serving in the military, provided the same standards of fitness are applied to women and men, particularly in combat roles. I don't want to see women allowed into combat roles if they can't meet the same fitness standards that are applied to men. Actually, I can see where a brigade of physically fit women could be serious ass kickers, particularly if they all are synchronized and get raging PMS at the same time. Turn a brigade of these women with raging PMS loose in Iraq against ISIS and watch them run away like a covey of quail on the backs of their camels. In Israel, female conscription in the military is compulsory, with few exceptions......essentially the same as the draft.
Uh, could you get any more sexist? | |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Vickie - 2015-05-02 10:42 AM
Bear - 2015-05-02 10:56 AM I don't have a problem with women serving in the military, provided the same standards of fitness are applied to women and men, particularly in combat roles. I don't want to see women allowed into combat roles if they can't meet the same fitness standards that are applied to men. Actually, I can see where a brigade of physically fit women could be serious ass kickers, particularly if they all are synchronized and get raging PMS at the same time. Turn a brigade of these women with raging PMS loose in Iraq against ISIS and watch them run away like a covey of quail on the backs of their camels. In Israel, female conscription in the military is compulsory, with few exceptions......essentially the same as the draft.
Uh, could you get any more sexist?
Lighten up. I was being facetious about the PMS brigade. Sheesh. | |
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| Vickie - 2015-05-02 10:42 AM Bear - 2015-05-02 10:56 AM I don't have a problem with women serving in the military, provided the same standards of fitness are applied to women and men, particularly in combat roles. I don't want to see women allowed into combat roles if they can't meet the same fitness standards that are applied to men. Actually, I can see where a brigade of physically fit women could be serious ass kickers, particularly if they all are synchronized and get raging PMS at the same time. Turn a brigade of these women with raging PMS loose in Iraq against ISIS and watch them run away like a covey of quail on the backs of their camels. In Israel, female conscription in the military is compulsory, with few exceptions......essentially the same as the draft. Uh, could you get any more sexist?
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | Bear - 2015-05-02 9:56 AM
I don't have a problem with women serving in the military, provided the same standards of fitness are applied to women and men, particularly in combat roles. I don't want to see women allowed into combat roles if they can't meet the same fitness standards that are applied to men. Actually, I can see where a brigade of physically fit women could be serious ass kickers, particularly if they all are synchronized and get raging PMS at the same time.
Turn a brigade of these women with raging PMS loose in Iraq against ISIS and watch them run away like a covey of quail on the backs of their camels.
In Israel, female conscription in the military is compulsory, with few exceptions......essentially the same as the draft.
I got a giggle out of your post.... Just take it for the sarcastic humor that it is! | |
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