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Location: Central Montana | Â I am waiting to hear results before I order any....I've done two rounds of Osphos already this year. I was hoping Flitastic would tell us how his horse did since it was previously treated with Osphos. |
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| ampratt - 2015-06-18 1:24 PM
racin3cans - 2015-06-18 11:45 AM
 Any more updates from those who have given this?Â
I am curious as well. From what I have read I think only 2 of us have actually done the injections. One other poster and myself. Her horse had a colic like reaction, mine did not. I believe Flitastic is debating on giving the dose she has, so I am sure if she does she will keep us posted on her experience. Hoping all goes well with future doses. It would be nice to have a safe, cheaper alternative. I just gave mine so I won't be able to determine if it is comparable to Osphos until much later.
FLitastic is a HE not a SHE but that's ok.. lol I have an appointment Monday with my vet for a recheck on my horse after a navicular bone chip. If she recommends I give another dose of the Osphos I am going to use it. Just FYI, I bought from RACEHORSEMEDS, not pre race. THey have different names. ANd Yep, If I give it, I will report back! THanks!
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Location: Middle Tennessee | I spoke to my vet about osteophos yesterday. I wanted to use it instead of the osphos because of price. He said he had osteophos brought to his attention a few times and did some research in to it. He says it is not the same mechanism as osphos like it claims to be. He also spoke with one of the head people of osphos to confirm. He also feels there's not enough literature over it. I'd like to give it a shot, but I'm skeptical. Would love to hear how people's horses do on it. |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | I had a great conversation with my favorite vet about Osphos the other day. He has not researched the OsteoPhos yet. He is pro Osphos for treatment of navicular issues but has some very specific instructions regarding the colic symptoms some horses have. He instructs only small feedings of pellets for at least 24 hours after giving Osphos, and suggests a bran mash with plenty of oil. He also suggests 10cc of dipyrone the evening of the treatment and the morning after. He made it sound like the colic symptoms are pretty common. |
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Location: Central Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-06-18 8:16 PM
ampratt - 2015-06-18 1:24 PM
racin3cans - 2015-06-18 11:45 AM
 Any more updates from those who have given this?Â
I am curious as well. From what I have read I think only 2 of us have actually done the injections. One other poster and myself. Her horse had a colic like reaction, mine did not. I believe Flitastic is debating on giving the dose she has, so I am sure if she does she will keep us posted on her experience. Hoping all goes well with future doses. It would be nice to have a safe, cheaper alternative. I just gave mine so I won't be able to determine if it is comparable to Osphos until much later.
FLitastic is a HE not a SHE but that's ok.. lol I have an appointment Monday with my vet for a recheck on my horse after a navicular bone chip. If she recommends I give another dose of the Osphos I am going to use it. Just FYI, I bought from RACEHORSEMEDS, not pre race. THey have different names. ANd Yep, If I give it, I will report back! THanks!
Very sorry about that! I should pay more attention to someone's avatar pic! |
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Location: Central Texas | RodeoGirlJodi - 2015-06-18 10:51 PM
 I spoke to my vet about osteophos yesterday.  I wanted to use it instead of the osphos because of price.  He said he had osteophos brought to his attention a few times and did some research in to it.  He says it is not the same mechanism as osphos like it claims to be.  He also spoke with one of the head people of osphos to confirm.  He also feels there's not enough literature over it.  I'd like to give it a shot, but I'm skeptical.  Would love to hear how people's horses do on it.
Would you be able to obtain the research your vet did on osteophos or direct me to the source. I would love to read it. |
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Location: So. Cali. | ampratt - 2015-06-22 1:16 PM RodeoGirlJodi - 2015-06-18 10:51 PM I spoke to my vet about osteophos yesterday. I wanted to use it instead of the osphos because of price. He said he had osteophos brought to his attention a few times and did some research in to it. He says it is not the same mechanism as osphos like it claims to be. He also spoke with one of the head people of osphos to confirm. He also feels there's not enough literature over it. I'd like to give it a shot, but I'm skeptical. Would love to hear how people's horses do on it. Would you be able to obtain the research your vet did on osteophos or direct me to the source. I would love to read it.
I recently discussed Osphos with my vet and am awaiting an article he is sending me to read that he really thought was a good read on it. I will share it here one recieved. |
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Location: Central Texas | Three*C*Champs - 2015-06-23 10:18 AM
ampratt - 2015-06-22 1:16 PM RodeoGirlJodi - 2015-06-18 10:51 PM Â I spoke to my vet about osteophos yesterday. Â I wanted to use it instead of the osphos because of price. Â He said he had osteophos brought to his attention a few times and did some research in to it. Â He says it is not the same mechanism as osphos like it claims to be. Â He also spoke with one of the head people of osphos to confirm. Â He also feels there's not enough literature over it. Â I'd like to give it a shot, but I'm skeptical. Â Would love to hear how people's horses do on it. Would you be able to obtain the research your vet did on osteophos or direct me to the source. I would love to read it.
I would love to read the one on Osphos as well in addition to the one mentioned about Osteophos. There are two different meds being discussed....Osphos and Osteophos. We are trying to determine if the knock off brand is as good/safe as the FDA approved Osphos. |
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| Does it raise any flags with anyone else that when you go to buy this stuff it doesn't require a prescription?? I find it very scary. This stuff can't be legit if it doesn't come with product information and doesn't require a prescription. I would stay away!!!! |
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| the horseprerace site is selling TildroPhos for 119 today compared to the 160 or whatever it was and says it the same.. just for anyone wanting to try it |
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 Ima Cool Kid
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Location: TN | I have a mare who got IV Tildren @ MS State University. She did not colic but they give fluids and monitored her for 8 hrs.
Had her brother get the regional perfusion last year in his front feet by a DVM and he did not colic. Wanting to try the knock off so bad but worry about where is it shipped from in the Summer heat.
The DVM done horses were on stall rest for 4 weeks then small lot turn out for another 4 weeks. Are you ( the folks trying it at home) still ridding them or doing the stall rest?
Edited to say I ordered a dose from Horse prerace.com I have used them before with out any problems
Edited by horsingaround 2015-06-27 7:01 PM
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| I didn't need a prescription for Osteophos so that raised a red flag for me. My horse responded so well to Osphos that my vet gave and it is a prescription. |
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Ima Cool Kid
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Location: TN | I got the " tildrophos" to day from Horse prerace
its in a clear vial but lable says to protect from light....lol |
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| horsingaround - 2015-07-01 1:19 PM
I got the " tildrophos" to day  from Horse prerace
its in a clear vial but lable says to protect from light....lol
LOL yeah they r a lil sketch |
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Location: Bandera, TX | Update:
My mare was the one with the bad reaction to the medicine. She came out of it okay though. However, Now two weeks after giving it to her she is still as lame as before. Please do keep in mind though, that this horse is 25 years old and has bad ring bone and arthritis. |
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Location: Central Texas | GoMistyGo - 2015-07-01 3:17 PM
Update:
My mare was the one with the bad reaction to the medicine. She came out of it okay though. However, Now two weeks after giving it to her she is still as lame as before. Please do keep in mind though, that this horse is 25 years old and has bad ring bone and arthritis.
Also, remember even Osphos and Tildren take normally about 58 to 60 days to show marked improvement. My guy showed a quicker improvement on the Tildren than Osphos but not by much and it took almost the full 58 days to really notice. Others may have experienced different response times I am sure. That being said if the knock off drug Osteophos works, it will surely take as much time as the Osphos/Tildren I bet. I hope it does but who really knows. |
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Ima Cool Kid
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Location: TN | Just thinking......
The colic like symptoms may be agrivated by the dose.
The vial contained 20 ml
My horse weight is 1150 lbs or 521.6 kg
Clodronate disodium give 1.5mg/kg
supplied as 50mg in 20 ml= dose of 15.6ml divided by 3 = 5.2ml per shot |
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Location: Central Texas | horsingaround - 2015-07-02 8:51 AM
Just thinking......
The colic like symptoms may be agrivated by the dose.
The vial contained 20 ml
My horse weight is 1150 lbs or 521.6 kg
Clodronate disodium give 1.5mg/kg
supplied as 50mg in 20 ml= dose of 15.6ml divided by 3 = 5.2ml per shotÂ
Could be and if you reseach the possible side effects Clodronate Disodium has on humans, one is abdominal cramps. Stands to reason, horses would be no different. |
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| Yep give it more time. 4-6 weeks... |
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Location: Middle Tennessee | Do you typically see subtle improvement throughout the first initial weeks using the osphos? Or is all the improvement toward the end of the 4-6 weeks? |
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