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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I did a quick check on Wisconsin's unemployment rate. When Walker took office, it was about 7.8% and it had steadily declined down to 4.5%. |
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| pepsi - 2015-07-21 8:58 AM
If you think he would make a good president based on busting the unions, great. But please don't vote for him if you think he will increase jobs and decrease taxes. He has not done that in Wisconsin. He promised if elected he would create 250,000 jobs. He doesn't say a word about that now because he was unable do it.
Walker was elected as governor in 2011. My property taxes for the last several years:
2014: $2,120.49
2013: $2,192.93
2012:Â $2,241.16
2011: $2,219.46
2010: $2,379.98
2009: $2,316.11
2008: $2,173.83
2007: $2,045.23
2006: $1,946.19Â
When I get a chance, I will look at my income taxes but it will tell a similar story. Meanwhile, my income has decreased.
Also, Wisconsin is not a liberal state. We are known as a purple state. Madison is known as liberal. I live in a rural community that always votes Republican as does the majority of the rural areas. Â
The same year we voted Scott as governor, we voted Tammy Baldwin as a senator--a lesbian democratic candidate.
Please do your research on your candidates. I know with many of you it will not matter what I say to change your mind--and that is OK. But for the people that want to know facts about job creation and taxes, just ask and I will see what I can find out.Â
So your Property taxes are lower now than when he took over. That's a bad thing? How is your lower income Walkers fault? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | jbhoot - 2015-07-21 9:22 AM pepsi - 2015-07-21 8:58 AM If you think he would make a good president based on busting the unions, great. But please don't vote for him if you think he will increase jobs and decrease taxes. He has not done that in Wisconsin. He promised if elected he would create 250,000 jobs. He doesn't say a word about that now because he was unable do it.
Walker was elected as governor in 2011. My property taxes for the last several years:
2014: $2,120.49
2013: $2,192.93
2012: $2,241.16
2011: $2,219.46
2010: $2,379.98
2009: $2,316.11
2008: $2,173.83
2007: $2,045.23
2006: $1,946.19
When I get a chance, I will look at my income taxes but it will tell a similar story. Meanwhile, my income has decreased.
Also, Wisconsin is not a liberal state. We are known as a purple state. Madison is known as liberal. I live in a rural community that always votes Republican as does the majority of the rural areas.
The same year we voted Scott as governor, we voted Tammy Baldwin as a senator--a lesbian democratic candidate.
Please do your research on your candidates. I know with many of you it will not matter what I say to change your mind--and that is OK. But for the people that want to know facts about job creation and taxes, just ask and I will see what I can find out. So your Property taxes are lower now than when he took over. That's a bad thing? How is your lower income Walkers fault?
LOL....I think you and Scott are mistaken....her property taxes are higher....from bottom to top..... |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Uffda Norma! You aren't helping! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2015-07-21 9:33 AM Uffda Norma! You aren't helping! LOL !!!! I explained property taxes to her on the last page.....doesn't that count?
eta: I just noticed that they did go up but then went BACK DOWN ! ! !
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| Unemployment rates have dropped across the board. Mainly because people have given up looking for work. There aren't many governors that can lay claim to the fact they've increased employment in their state. So take that as you will.
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Location: Wisconsin | It is like talking to a brick wall.
I brought up Tammy to show that Wisconsin is known as a purple state--we elected both Walker and Baldwin--but of course, you know more that I do. It is very evident you just want to be argumentative and that is fine.
I am interested to listen to Walker's views on immigration. We spend millions of dollars every year on the illegals to cover their health care, legal fees, etc. We pay for their baby's births, we pay for their attorney when they get picked up for drunk driving, we pay for their interpreter when they go to court and apply for benefits . Heck, the illegals have better benefits than I do. Walker didn't do anything because so many of our area farmers hire the illegals and he didnt' want to lose their support. Now that he is running for president, his view has changed.
Also, unemployment is very high in Milwaukee County and in the tribal counties. I really don't know the answer to help with that. People have to be motivated to work and obviously in those areas, a lot of the population does not want to work. Walker hasn't been able to figure that one out but I am sure he will come up with an answer when he is president.
Now go ahead and pick apart my statements. I can't wait to see what you come up with next.
Also, please expalin to me your thoughts on his promise to create 250,000 jobs in Wisconsin in which he failed to do. Thank you. |
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| NJJ - 2015-07-21 9:29 AM
jbhoot - 2015-07-21 9:22 AM pepsi - 2015-07-21 8:58 AM If you think he would make a good president based on busting the unions, great. But please don't vote for him if you think he will increase jobs and decrease taxes. He has not done that in Wisconsin. He promised if elected he would create 250,000 jobs. He doesn't say a word about that now because he was unable do it.
Walker was elected as governor in 2011. My property taxes for the last several years:
2014: $2,120.49
2013: $2,192.93
2012:Â $2,241.16
2011: $2,219.46
2010: $2,379.98
2009: $2,316.11
2008: $2,173.83
2007: $2,045.23
2006: $1,946.19Â
When I get a chance, I will look at my income taxes but it will tell a similar story. Meanwhile, my income has decreased.
Also, Wisconsin is not a liberal state. We are known as a purple state. Madison is known as liberal. I live in a rural community that always votes Republican as does the majority of the rural areas. Â
The same year we voted Scott as governor, we voted Tammy Baldwin as a senator--a lesbian democratic candidate.
Please do your research on your candidates. I know with many of you it will not matter what I say to change your mind--and that is OK. But for the people that want to know facts about job creation and taxes, just ask and I will see what I can find out. So your Property taxes are lower now than when he took over. That's a bad thing? How is your lower income Walkers fault?
No NJJ her taxes are lower from the time that Walker take over in 2011. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Ahhhhh!!!! You are both saying the same thing! Her property taxes increased from 2006 - 2010, when the Wisconsin governor was a Democrat, then from 2011-2014 they declined. This is all a tempest in a teapot anyway, because there really hasn't been enough of a change over the 9 years to be that riled up about anyway. |
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Location: Wisconsin | I was just trying to show that he has not decreased taxes nor created jobs in Wisconsin. However, I am sure most of you will interpret this in whatever way you want. |
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| pepsi - 2015-07-21 9:56 AM
I was just trying to show that he has not decreased taxes nor created jobs in Wisconsin. However, I am sure most of you will interpret this in whatever way you want.Â
AS per PolitiFact In his 4 year term he created 146,795 new jobs. or 59% of promised 250,000. Not perfect but considering he stood for three elections during that period not bad IMO. |
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Location: Wisconsin | How is that compared to nationwide? |
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Location: Wisconsin | This may help:
Walker's "accomplishments" in Wisconsin
50th in the US in Short Term Job Growth - US Chamber of Commerce
49th in Economic Outlook - Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia
49th in Job Growth through 2016 - Forbes Magazine
45th in the Nation in Wage Growth - Burea of Labor Statstics
44th in the Nation in Job Growth - Burea of Labor Statistices
42nd Best for Business - Forbes Magazine. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | pepsi - 2015-07-21 9:56 AM I was just trying to show that he has not decreased taxes nor created jobs in Wisconsin. However, I am sure most of you will interpret this in whatever way you want.
Please read my description of property taxes on the previous page.....the increase has nothing to do with STATE government! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RidenFly - 2015-07-21 10:22 AM Yep, those statistics suck. I agree.....but you have to take into account the mess he was handed when he took office. Here is a table of what he has done trying to bring WI back from the brink of economic failure.... eta: through 2014
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Before he took office he inherited a mess.
Actually, like most other states, Wisconsin's unemployment has fallen to around 4.5% in the past year...with the national unemployment rate at about 5.5%.
Wisconsin became a "right to work" state, under Walker. That's a huge accomplishment. |
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Location: Wisconsin | Oh my God. After reading the last 5 pages I realize how wrong I am. All of you that live outside of Wisconsin know so much more than me. Tonight, with all of my Wisconsin friends, I will sit around the fire and sing kumbaya and we will tell ourselves how wonderful Scott Walker has made our lives.
This forum shows that no matter what the numbers show, Scott Walker will be liked by you since he is a republican. If he was a democrat and had the numbers he has and the staff convictions under his administration, you would be howling.
Give me a break.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | pepsi - 2015-07-21 1:03 PM
Oh my God. After reading the last 5 pages I realize how wrong I am. All of you that live outside of Wisconsin know so much more than me. Tonight, with all of my Wisconsin friends, I will sit around the fire and sing kumbaya and we will tell ourselves how wonderful Scott Walker has made our lives.Â
This forum shows that no matter what the numbers show, Scott Walker will be liked by you since he is a republican. If he was a democrat and had the numbers he has and the staff convictions under his administration, you would be howling.
Give me a break.
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I am not a Republican.....too many are too liberal.
If Walker is so unpopular with Wisconsinites, then explain how he was re-elected. Also, explain how he easily won the recall election, even though the liberals threw everything at him but the kitchen sink. The union thugs tried everything. The DNC brought in their heavyweights, including Clinton....yet he still won.
Then again, I must confess, Obama was re-elected, so what can I say? In the interest of honesty and fairness, I had to admit this.
Time will tell, my friend, but if you want to make a case for sonething, don't start it out with a lie (the one where you said he was "kicked out" of Marquette). Once people recognize that, you will always have an uphill battle. If you have a strong case to make, don't embellish it with lies.
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| As a self employed person and not on a government payroll. I like Walker. As far as jobs it took us 1 1/2 yrs of fill a spot at our place, nobody wanted to work that hard.. If people want to work they will, and if they don't they won't. Property taxes are set by township and county not by the state mandate. IF you don't like your property taxes then move.
I believe that he makes people more responsible for themselves and their own future, and yes that will **** off a lot of people, But is it wrong?
His college is nor here nor there, I have friends that never even graduated high school and they are making 6 figures and some running million dollar companies. So that is a poor argument. And on the other hand I know many people with degrees asking you if you need more fries. Again if you want a good life, take responsibility for yourself and make it the old fashion way. Work for it.
It will be interesting to see what happens.
There are a lot worse people running than Walker. |
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