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| My understanding, the ERA was started for more money, and less traveling. Does that mean those members are not planning on competing at PRCA rodeos and trying to make the NFR? I'm just going to say, the PRCA doesn't believe that, or they would not have implemented the new bylaws.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Nevertooold - 2015-09-25 2:24 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-09-24 9:46 PM trickster j - 2015-09-24 2:47 PM I get that the ERA founders and members are tired of the traveling required to make it to the top and stay there. If they don't want to do it anymore, they can either retire and stay closer to home where they can focus on their families and other interests like the generations and generations of world chammpions before them did, or create a new organization where they can do those things as well as stay in the spotlight and earn money rodeoing. I personally think it is just a newer generation of thought that decides to create a new organization to benefit just themselves. just my thought-
I agree with you. I get both sides here. I get it. BUT, what ever happened to some semblence of loyalty? BOTH the contestants, and the PRCA have washed each others hands for all of time and it takes both.They wouldnt be who they are and the known persona's if it werent for the PRCA. I also get they want to make more money and travel less. I thought tahat was the premise behind the champions challenge was. But the way they set the ERA up they stand to make ALOT more money as "owners" if they can get it off the ground. Franchise, ticket sales, advertisments during airing percentages, sponsorships, ect and the money could/would flow long after they stop competing because they are vested owners. I get it. So go do that. They think their name is going to sell it, so ok, go be all that. Yet they want that piece, plus the PRCA .Seems to me they can work their own rodeo's as I thought that was the whole premise anyways, go to the unsanctioned rodeo's if they want, and heck, now they would be fair game for the million from the American!! Isnt that enough? I will be deeply saddened if they try to sue the PRCA.
I never said they put the cowboy first. I said one hand has washed the other and for all of time, they needed each other. PRCA needs it's "star's" and they have done a good job promoting those "Star's" and bringing them to the forefront and because of that, they have been able to garner alot of extra income by sponsorsips, advertisements, commentating, promotion of other services goods and products. If it werent for the PRCA, lets fae it,,,,,,how well known would say Trevor Brazil be if all these years he didnt have the PRCA? Only unsanctioned here and there rodeo's? | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | ThreeCorners - 2015-09-27 10:49 AM Nevertooold - 2015-09-25 2:24 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-09-24 9:46 PM trickster j - 2015-09-24 2:47 PM I get that the ERA founders and members are tired of the traveling required to make it to the top and stay there. If they don't want to do it anymore, they can either retire and stay closer to home where they can focus on their families and other interests like the generations and generations of world chammpions before them did, or create a new organization where they can do those things as well as stay in the spotlight and earn money rodeoing. I personally think it is just a newer generation of thought that decides to create a new organization to benefit just themselves. just my thought-
I agree with you. I get both sides here. I get it. BUT, what ever happened to some semblence of loyalty? BOTH the contestants, and the PRCA have washed each others hands for all of time and it takes both.They wouldnt be who they are and the known persona's if it werent for the PRCA. I also get they want to make more money and travel less. I thought tahat was the premise behind the champions challenge was. But the way they set the ERA up they stand to make ALOT more money as "owners" if they can get it off the ground. Franchise, ticket sales, advertisments during airing percentages, sponsorships, ect and the money could/would flow long after they stop competing because they are vested owners. I get it. So go do that. They think their name is going to sell it, so ok, go be all that. Yet they want that piece, plus the PRCA .Seems to me they can work their own rodeo's as I thought that was the whole premise anyways, go to the unsanctioned rodeo's if they want, and heck, now they would be fair game for the million from the American!! Isnt that enough? I will be deeply saddened if they try to sue the PRCA.
I will say I really don't care one way or the other but as far as the PRCA, I don't recall them ever promoting their stars. The ones promoting the stars has been the sponsors and the advertisers.
I will say that the ERA is promoting their stars and they have constant posts on FB when they do good. My feed is full of promotion of individuals every day. | |
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Location: Oregon | Why am I too stoopid to find it on Facebook? I put in Elite Rodeo and can't find it. I tried Athletes and Association because I didn't know the last word. | |
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Location: Where I am happiest | crapshooter - 2015-09-27 4:05 PM Why am I too stoopid to find it on Facebook? I put in Elite Rodeo and can't find it. I tried Athletes and Association because I didn't know the last word.
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| I wonder if, over time, enough of the "top" athletes leave the PRCA if it will deteriorate the "eliteness" (not a real word LOL) of the NFR -- sure those who fall outside the top 15 now will love having the opportunity and not that they're not just as good. But if you're not riding against those whom the fans feel are "the best" maybe it won't be the same?
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Location: SE Louisiana | crapshooter - 2015-09-27 4:05 PM
Why am I too stoopid to find it on Facebook? I put in Elite Rodeo and can't find it. I tried Athletes and Association because I didn't know the last word.
It's easier to find a page like that if you Google -- elite rodeo facebook
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Location: South Central Florida | In business, my.mentor during thr 80' taught me to NEVER be.afraidmof.good quality competitin!!! It improbes the over health.of.the sport, and encourages.more participants , spectators and sponsors. I feel this could be angreat.parterner ship | |
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| Just wondered if anyone had updates on all this? | |
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Location: Arkansas | TxBronc - 2015-10-02 6:03 AM
Just wondered if anyone had updates on all this?
There's a good article in the month's Western Horseman magazine on the PRCA "vs" the ERA. | |
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| Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-03 1:15 AM
TxBronc - 2015-10-02 6:03 AM
Just wondered if anyone had updates on all this?
There's a good article in the month's Western Horseman magazine on the PRCA "vs" the ERA.
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Location: A Higher Elevation | Originally posted 11/9/15:
Sad to say these days are long over. I've been associated with the PRCA for 48 years and a member for 29, so I get to spew my opinion! smile emoticon When you decide to rodeo for a living, you know the deal. Cowboys are not multi-million dollar athletes. And, I say YAY! There are a lot of things that rodeo has that the other major sports don't. Throwing that much money in the sport would ruin what makes rodeo so great. The ERA has filed a lawsuit against the PRCA. Well, good for them. The PRCA must protect its brand. You can't be on the board of Coca Cola and drive a Pepsi truck. It appears several people want their cake and to eat it too. They want to run off, start their own "elite" association, limited to just certain people. But, they want to be able to use the PRCA to further their gains also. I get pretty tired of all these different flash in the pan associations using the PRCA as their qualifying criteria. The PBR started that way, but it didn't stay that way. The ERA should use the PBR as an example... The PBR didn't go out and try to steal existing rodeos. They went and did their own thing. Most current PBR members are not PRCA members, and a good percentage never have been. THe PBR is no longer using the PRCA as a qualifying organization. A lot of people posting on FB today keep trying to compare the ERA to the PBR, USTRC, WSTR, and you can't. It's apples and oranges. Those associations are all about ONE event. They are not rodeos. The defunct PRS was not a rodeo, it was rough stock only. Once you go over 4 events, it is considered a rodeo. ERA is actively recruiting existing rodeos. Something the PBR and USTRC never did. They set their elite criteria for the rodeos too, not just the cowboys. The PRCA is the only association that has rodeos "elite" enough to qualify for ERA.. Hhhhhmmmm.... Where will they get their rodeos??? This is just getting ridiculous. Go actually build your association and STOP the coattailing. Too many are using their fame and fortune built with the PRCA to legitimize themselves AWAY from the PRCA. Which is wrong. Look at the ERA website. It is advertising all these World Champions. Are they ERA world champions??? No. So don't advertise them them that way. There have been several professional football leagues try to get a very small piece of the NFL pie. With big name players and big money behind them. Didn't work. The old cliche is true: Dance with the one that brought you. Oh, and yes, I do realize I'm not nearly elite enough for the ERA. Never thought I was. Heck, I'm not even elite enough for the PRCA! I've applied for several jobs there, but not even a "No Thank You".. I'm loyal to a fault and I know where MY loyalty lies. Where is yours??
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | Nevertooold - 2015-09-27 11:37 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-09-27 10:49 AM Nevertooold - 2015-09-25 2:24 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-09-24 9:46 PM trickster j - 2015-09-24 2:47 PM I get that the ERA founders and members are tired of the traveling required to make it to the top and stay there. If they don't want to do it anymore, they can either retire and stay closer to home where they can focus on their families and other interests like the generations and generations of world chammpions before them did, or create a new organization where they can do those things as well as stay in the spotlight and earn money rodeoing. I personally think it is just a newer generation of thought that decides to create a new organization to benefit just themselves. just my thought-
I agree with you. I get both sides here. I get it. BUT, what ever happened to some semblence of loyalty? BOTH the contestants, and the PRCA have washed each others hands for all of time and it takes both.They wouldnt be who they are and the known persona's if it werent for the PRCA. I also get they want to make more money and travel less. I thought tahat was the premise behind the champions challenge was. But the way they set the ERA up they stand to make ALOT more money as "owners" if they can get it off the ground. Franchise, ticket sales, advertisments during airing percentages, sponsorships, ect and the money could/would flow long after they stop competing because they are vested owners. I get it. So go do that. They think their name is going to sell it, so ok, go be all that. Yet they want that piece, plus the PRCA .Seems to me they can work their own rodeo's as I thought that was the whole premise anyways, go to the unsanctioned rodeo's if they want, and heck, now they would be fair game for the million from the American!! Isnt that enough? I will be deeply saddened if they try to sue the PRCA.
I will say that the ERA is promoting their stars and they have constant posts on FB when they do good. My feed is full of promotion of individuals every day.
You have got to be kidding me. The PRCA has been limiting rodeos for years with the excuse that they want to showcase their stars. That is why you go to San Antonio or Houston and can go to four perfs in a row and see the same people. | |
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| I am curious to see how the trial goes here in a couple weeks to see if they are going to be allowed to compete in Odessa and Denver. | |
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Location: Arkansas | TO Cookie Monster - 2015-12-03 9:30 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-12-03 1:15 AM
TxBronc - 2015-10-02 6:03 AM
Just wondered if anyone had updates on all this?
There's a good article in the month's Western Horseman magazine on the PRCA "vs" the ERA.
what's their take??
Just an overview of the new ERA and kinda what's going on between the two right now. | |
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Location: The Great Northwest | ksjackofalltrades - 2015-12-19 12:52 PM Nevertooold - 2015-09-27 11:37 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-09-27 10:49 AM Nevertooold - 2015-09-25 2:24 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-09-24 9:46 PM trickster j - 2015-09-24 2:47 PM I get that the ERA founders and members are tired of the traveling required to make it to the top and stay there. If they don't want to do it anymore, they can either retire and stay closer to home where they can focus on their families and other interests like the generations and generations of world chammpions before them did, or create a new organization where they can do those things as well as stay in the spotlight and earn money rodeoing. I personally think it is just a newer generation of thought that decides to create a new organization to benefit just themselves. just my thought-
I agree with you. I get both sides here. I get it. BUT, what ever happened to some semblence of loyalty? BOTH the contestants, and the PRCA have washed each others hands for all of time and it takes both.They wouldnt be who they are and the known persona's if it werent for the PRCA. I also get they want to make more money and travel less. I thought tahat was the premise behind the champions challenge was. But the way they set the ERA up they stand to make ALOT more money as "owners" if they can get it off the ground. Franchise, ticket sales, advertisments during airing percentages, sponsorships, ect and the money could/would flow long after they stop competing because they are vested owners. I get it. So go do that. They think their name is going to sell it, so ok, go be all that. Yet they want that piece, plus the PRCA .Seems to me they can work their own rodeo's as I thought that was the whole premise anyways, go to the unsanctioned rodeo's if they want, and heck, now they would be fair game for the million from the American!! Isnt that enough? I will be deeply saddened if they try to sue the PRCA.
I will say that the ERA is promoting their stars and they have constant posts on FB when they do good. My feed is full of promotion of individuals every day.
Yes this PRCA has promoted the elete. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | ksjackofalltrades - 2015-12-18 3:52 PM Nevertooold - 2015-09-27 11:37 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-09-27 10:49 AM Nevertooold - 2015-09-25 2:24 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-09-24 9:46 PM trickster j - 2015-09-24 2:47 PM I get that the ERA founders and members are tired of the traveling required to make it to the top and stay there. If they don't want to do it anymore, they can either retire and stay closer to home where they can focus on their families and other interests like the generations and generations of world chammpions before them did, or create a new organization where they can do those things as well as stay in the spotlight and earn money rodeoing. I personally think it is just a newer generation of thought that decides to create a new organization to benefit just themselves. just my thought-
I agree with you. I get both sides here. I get it. BUT, what ever happened to some semblence of loyalty? BOTH the contestants, and the PRCA have washed each others hands for all of time and it takes both.They wouldnt be who they are and the known persona's if it werent for the PRCA. I also get they want to make more money and travel less. I thought tahat was the premise behind the champions challenge was. But the way they set the ERA up they stand to make ALOT more money as "owners" if they can get it off the ground. Franchise, ticket sales, advertisments during airing percentages, sponsorships, ect and the money could/would flow long after they stop competing because they are vested owners. I get it. So go do that. They think their name is going to sell it, so ok, go be all that. Yet they want that piece, plus the PRCA .Seems to me they can work their own rodeo's as I thought that was the whole premise anyways, go to the unsanctioned rodeo's if they want, and heck, now they would be fair game for the million from the American!! Isnt that enough? I will be deeply saddened if they try to sue the PRCA.
I will say that the ERA is promoting their stars and they have constant posts on FB when they do good. My feed is full of promotion of individuals every day.
I absolutely hate the limited rodeos but I have never looked at it as the PRCA promoting their elite but instead taking care of their stock contractors so they wouldn't have to have the cost of putting on slack. We use to go and watch the slack at the Rose Palace for San Antonio. It was great but I know it was costly but that is part of putting on a rodeo.
My point is...It's never about the cowboys..it's about taking care of everyone else involved.
Trust me...the people in San Antonio don't go to the rodeo to watch the elite rodeo contestants perform...they go to watch the singers perform. Without those acts the AT&T center would be pretty much empty.
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