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Location: western Nebraska | I saw this on a couple fb pages too. Our friend didn't pay anything-where did this come from?? | |
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| I wasn't going to join this discussion because I know there are a few people that are just waiting for me to add my two cents so they can attack like a pack of hyena's. Oh well. My understanding is all the funding for this is coming from a tax slush fund. The legislators were told that the ERA expects X amount to be brought in as revenue if TX funds them. I wonder what happens if the finals have a crowd like they had in Kissimee for Circuit Finals? The NCHA Finals were funded through this same slush fund and they didn't generate near the numbers that they predicted. So I wonder how much time these legislator's give a group like the NCHA and ERA to generate the revenue they forecast before they cut off funding? Also, if all the funding is coming from TX, does that mean the 10 rodeos will all be in TX? Or will a state such as MT get one even though they aren't contributing to the funding? | |
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| SKM - 2015-10-24 8:24 AMI wasn't going to join this discussion because I know there are a few people that are just waiting for me to add my two cents so they can attack like a pack of hyena's. Oh well. My understanding is all the funding for this is coming from a tax slush fund. The legislators were told that the ERA expects X amount to be brought in as revenue if TX funds them. I wonder what happens if the finals have a crowd like they had in Kissimee for Circuit Finals? The NCHA Finals were funded through this same slush fund and they didn't generate near the numbers that they predicted. So I wonder how much time these legislator's give a group like the NCHA and ERA to generate the revenue they forecast before they cut off funding? Also, if all the funding is coming from TX, does that mean the 10 rodeos will all be in TX? Or will a state such as MT get one even though they aren't contributing to the funding? That will be interesting to see where these rodeos are held. I was wondering myself. Who knows maybe just their big finals will be the only one in Texas. I hope this thing works. I think it would have been better if all rules, regulations, contestants, qualifications, rodeo locations and dates, etc would have been announced at once. That way they don't look so fly by the seat of your pants and make it up or change it as we go. I know they are treading in new territory so it can be a bit tricky. I just like all my ducks in a row with all the what ifs addressed ahead of time before taking a big jump. Great risk takers aren't like me and usually it all works out either way. It's just my personal preference.
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| How do new people get on the roster? Is it closed to up and coming barrel racers? What if one of their horses get hurt? I realize the 10 can ride well, but alot of their success comes from their horse too so I think it's hard to pick the elite in the barrel industry because of how much your horse is a part of your success.
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| oranges - 2015-10-24 9:28 AM
How do new people get on the roster? Is it closed to up and coming barrel racers? What if one of their horses get hurt? I realize the 10 can ride well, but alot of their success comes from their horse too so I think it's hard to pick the elite in the barrel industry because of how much your horse is a part of your success.
 I am pretty sure all of the ladies on the roster have more than 1 tough horse in the trailer if their main mount gets injured. If not, they will jump on someone else's through a lease, borrow, or promote plan. If it is like the PBR, they have to stay competitive in order to remain on the tour or they are replaced by a challenger level contestant who is next in line......like being pulled from a minor league to the major league in baseball. I don't know how it will work. This is just my guess. | |
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| SKM - 2015-10-24 8:24 AM I wasn't going to join this discussion because I know there are a few people that are just waiting for me to add my two cents so they can attack like a pack of hyena's. Oh well. My understanding is all the funding for this is coming from a tax slush fund. The legislators were told that the ERA expects X amount to be brought in as revenue if TX funds them. I wonder what happens if the finals have a crowd like they had in Kissimee for Circuit Finals? The NCHA Finals were funded through this same slush fund and they didn't generate near the numbers that they predicted. So I wonder how much time these legislator's give a group like the NCHA and ERA to generate the revenue they forecast before they cut off funding? Also, if all the funding is coming from TX, does that mean the 10 rodeos will all be in TX? Or will a state such as MT get one even though they aren't contributing to the funding?
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SKM - 2015-10-24 8:24 AM I wasn't going to join this discussion because I know there are a few people that are just waiting for me to add my two cents so they can attack like a pack of hyena's. Oh well. My understanding is all the funding for this is coming from a tax slush fund. The legislators were told that the ERA expects X amount to be brought in as revenue if TX funds them. I wonder what happens if the finals have a crowd like they had in Kissimee for Circuit Finals? The NCHA Finals were funded through this same slush fund and they didn't generate near the numbers that they predicted. So I wonder how much time these legislator's give a group like the NCHA and ERA to generate the revenue they forecast before they cut off funding? Also, if all the funding is coming from TX, does that mean the 10 rodeos will all be in TX? Or will a state such as MT get one even though they aren't contributing to the funding?
Here is what the METF does in Texas. They have nothing to do with sending funds to any assocaition per say. They help fund events for different events which the ERA is trying to get funding for their finals.
The Major Events Trust Fund applies local and state gains from sales and use, auto rental, hotel and alcoholic beverage taxes generated over a 12-month period from certain major sporting championships or events to pay costs incurred from hosting the event.
Large and well-attended events have previously been funded, including the 2004 Super Bowl and the NCAA’s 2004 and 2008 Men’s Final Four basketball championships.
The trust fund can be used to pay costs related to preparing for or conducting the event, including equipment, or to pay principal and interest on notes used to build or improve facilities. One hundred percent of allowable expenses can be funded provided sufficient tax receipts are deposited in the trust fund.
StatuteVernon’s Texas Civil Statutes, Article 5190.14 Sec 5A
Eligible Events - Academy of Country Music Awards
- National Cutting Horse Association Triple Crown
- Super Bowl
- NCAA Final Four tournament game
- National Basketball Association All Star Game
- National Hockey League All Star Game
- Major League Baseball All Star Game
- NCAA Bowl Championship Series or its successor
- World Cup Soccer Game
- World Games
- A national political convention of the Republican National Committee or the Democratic National Committee
- A national collegiate championship of an amateur sport sanctioned by a national governing body recognized by the U.S. Olympic Committee
- An Olympic activity, including a Junior or Senior activity, training program or feeder program sanctioned by the U.S. Olympic Committee’s Community Olympic Development Program
- Breeders’ Cup World Championships
- Formula One automobile races
- Mixed Martial Arts
- X-Games
- Largest event at a venue with over 125,000 permanent seats
Population RequirementsNo City or County size limitations
Taxes Eligible - General Sales and Use (Tax Code, Ch.151)
- Motor Vehicle Rental (Tax Code, Ch.152)
- Hotel Tax (Tax Code, Ch.156)
- Mixed Beverage (Tax Code, Ch.183)
- Title 5 Alcoholic Bev. Code
State Review/ApprovalComptroller works with the applicant (city or county) to establish the amount of incremental tax gains resulting from the event – which is the basis of expense payment. The Comptroller will review the actual number of attendees to confirm the value to the state.
Economic Impact “Window”One Year
Application DeadlineNot earlier than one year and not later than 45 days before the event View the Request worksheet (PDF)
Obligations Allowed - 100% of allowable expenses
- Limited by fund deposits
Allowable Expenses - Principal and interest on notes issued by an endorsing municipality or county that are used to improve, construct, renovate, or acquire facilities or to acquire equipment for the event.
- Payment of costs relating to the preparations necessary or desirable for the conduct of the event and the payment of costs of conducting the event, including improvements or renovations to facilities.
Specific Use LimitationsCannot be used to solicit relocation of a professional sports franchise already located in Texas.
The Comptroller is required under Section 5A(w) of Article 5190.14 (Vernon's Civil Statutes) to complete and post an economic impact study following the completion of an event eligible for disbursements from the Major Events trust fund. Below are studies of the measurable economic impact attributable to METF events: - 2011 Super Bowl XLV (February 2011) (PDF, 287KB)
- 2011 Summer National Senior Games (June 2011) (PDF, 532KB)
- 2012 Olympic Trials Marathon (January 2012) (PDF, 456KB)
- 2012 AAU Junior Olympic Games (August 2012) (PDF, 367KB)
- 2011 - 2012 NCHA Triple Crown of Cutting (Futurity, Super Stakes, Summer Spectacular) (PDF, 1.1MB)
- 2012 Formula One Grand Prix (November 2012) (PDF, 499KB)
- 2013 Formula One Grand Prix (November 2013)
- 2014 NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Final Four (April 2014)
- 2013 Houston NBA All-Star Game (February 2013)
- 2012 - 2013 NCHA Triple Crown of Cutting (Futurity, Super Stakes, Summer Spectacular)
In accordance with 2013’s S.B. 1678, the Comptroller’s office completed a post-event study and compiled appropriate documents for two METF events, the 2014-15 Triple Crown of Cutting and 2014 Formula 1 event.
Legislation approved in 2015 calls for the METF program to be moved to the Office of the Governor, and this transition is under way. If you wish to see a copy of either report prior to September 10, 2015, when the transition should be complete, contact [email protected].
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | There was a go ahead to get funding but it can't be official more then a year before the event and not less then 45 days before.
Here is info from Sept. 30, 2015.
POSSIBLE METF MONEY
In fact, in February 2015 when the ERA surfaced, Texas state legislators were considering it to be added to a list of other events eligible to receive tax incentives to come to Texas through the Major Events Trust Fund (METF). During a Texas State Legislative session meeting held Monday, Feb. 18, Trevor Brazile, Jade Corkill, Patrick Smith, Charmayne James, Tuf Cooper, Fred Whitfield and Bobby Mote showed up in support of the Elite Rodeo Association being included in the METF, a lucrative fund funded by Texas taxpayers. Rep. Cecil Bell, Jr., R-Magnolia, Texas filed HB1440, one of the proposals that included an Elite Rodeo Association World Championship be added to the (METF).
However, the METF shifted oversight on Aug. 31, 2015, during the 84th Texas Legislative Regular Session, when the administration of the METF program was transferred from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts to the Office of the Governor’s economic development and tourism division to address lingering worries and eliminating Texas taxpayers funding it, effective Sept. 1, 2015. The latest posted recipients by the state of Texas do not currently include the ERA’s Dallas event; however, that list was posted prior to Sept. 1.
Here is the link for people that are interesting in reading more about the above and the ERA.
http://allaboutcutting.net/?p=7621
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| Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 11:11 AM
There was a go ahead to get funding but it can't be official more then a year before the event and not less then 45 days before.
Here is info from Sept. 30, 2015.POSSIBLE METF MONEYIn fact, in February 2015 when the ERA surfaced, Texas state legislators were considering it to be added to a list of other events eligible to receive tax incentives to come to Texas through the Major Events Trust Fund (METF ). During a Texas State Legislative session meeting held Monday, Feb. 18, Trevor Brazile, Jade Corkill, Patrick Smith, Charmayne James, Tuf Cooper, Fred Whitfield and Bobby Mote showed up in support of the Elite Rodeo Association being included in the METF, a lucrative fund funded by Texas taxpayers. Rep. Cecil Bell, Jr., R-Magnolia, Texas filed HB1440, one of the proposals that included an Elite Rodeo Association World Championship be added to the (METF ).  However, the METF shifted oversight on Aug. 31, 2015, during the 84th Texas Legislative Regular Session, when the administration of the METF program was transferred from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts to the Office of the Governor’s economic development and tourism division to address lingering worries and eliminating Texas taxpayers funding it, effective Sept. 1, 2015. The latest posted recipients by the state of Texas do not currently include the ERA’s Dallas event; however, that list was posted prior to Sept. 1. Here is the link for people that are interesting in reading more about the above and the ERA.http://allaboutcutting.net/?p=7621Â
That was an interesting read. Makes you wonder where these big bucks they are going to be competing for are coming from. And how the one event part of the PRCA bylaw will come into play. It's like watching a chess game between the ERA and the PRCA and the contestants are the pawns. The thing about chess though...the pawns are always the first to get knocked off. | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SKM - 2015-10-24 12:35 PM Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 11:11 AM There was a go ahead to get funding but it can't be official more then a year before the event and not less then 45 days before.
Here is info from Sept. 30, 2015.
POSSIBLE METF MONEY
In fact, in February 2015 when the ERA surfaced, Texas state legislators were considering it to be added to a list of other events eligible to receive tax incentives to come to Texas through the Major Events Trust Fund (METF ). During a Texas State Legislative session meeting held Monday, Feb. 18, Trevor Brazile, Jade Corkill, Patrick Smith, Charmayne James, Tuf Cooper, Fred Whitfield and Bobby Mote showed up in support of the Elite Rodeo Association being included in the METF, a lucrative fund funded by Texas taxpayers. Rep. Cecil Bell, Jr., R-Magnolia, Texas filed HB1440, one of the proposals that included an Elite Rodeo Association World Championship be added to the (METF ).
However, the METF shifted oversight on Aug. 31, 2015, during the 84th Texas Legislative Regular Session, when the administration of the METF program was transferred from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts to the Office of the Governor’s economic development and tourism division to address lingering worries and eliminating Texas taxpayers funding it, effective Sept. 1, 2015. The latest posted recipients by the state of Texas do not currently include the ERA’s Dallas event; however, that list was posted prior to Sept. 1.
Here is the link for people that are interesting in reading more about the above and the ERA.
http://allaboutcutting.net/?p=7621
That was an interesting read. Makes you wonder where these big bucks they are going to be competing for are coming from. And how the one event part of the PRCA bylaw will come into play. It's like watching a chess game between the ERA and the PRCA and the contestants are the pawns. The thing about chess though...the pawns are always the first to get knocked off.
The one event deal sure doesn't affect very many except for people like Trevor that go for the all around. How they could be so specific to target contestants that enter more then one event was a real eye opener and pretty much tells who the PRCA is targeting. | |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 1:19 PM SKM - 2015-10-24 12:35 PM Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 11:11 AM There was a go ahead to get funding but it can't be official more then a year before the event and not less then 45 days before.
Here is info from Sept. 30, 2015.
POSSIBLE METF MONEY
In fact, in February 2015 when the ERA surfaced, Texas state legislators were considering it to be added to a list of other events eligible to receive tax incentives to come to Texas through the Major Events Trust Fund (METF ). During a Texas State Legislative session meeting held Monday, Feb. 18, Trevor Brazile, Jade Corkill, Patrick Smith, Charmayne James, Tuf Cooper, Fred Whitfield and Bobby Mote showed up in support of the Elite Rodeo Association being included in the METF, a lucrative fund funded by Texas taxpayers. Rep. Cecil Bell, Jr., R-Magnolia, Texas filed HB1440, one of the proposals that included an Elite Rodeo Association World Championship be added to the (METF ).
However, the METF shifted oversight on Aug. 31, 2015, during the 84th Texas Legislative Regular Session, when the administration of the METF program was transferred from the Texas Comptroller of Public Accounts to the Office of the Governor’s economic development and tourism division to address lingering worries and eliminating Texas taxpayers funding it, effective Sept. 1, 2015. The latest posted recipients by the state of Texas do not currently include the ERA’s Dallas event; however, that list was posted prior to Sept. 1.
Here is the link for people that are interesting in reading more about the above and the ERA.
http://allaboutcutting.net/?p=7621
That was an interesting read. Makes you wonder where these big bucks they are going to be competing for are coming from. And how the one event part of the PRCA bylaw will come into play. It's like watching a chess game between the ERA and the PRCA and the contestants are the pawns. The thing about chess though...the pawns are always the first to get knocked off.
Conflicting rodeo associations were defined as companies, partnerships or associations or other entities whose direct or indirect purpose is to produce, promote and/or sanction professional rodeo contests in which contestants compete in two or more of the following events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, steer wrestling and team roping.
The way I read it is that they are NOT targeting the contestant who competes in more than one event but any "association" whose production includes more than one event....hence any single event production (team roping, barrel racing, bronc riding, bull riding productions) would NOT be "conflicting" associations....... | |
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| It will be interesting to see how those ERA athletes who are NFR qualifiers this year handle the NFR interviews, daily requirements from the PRCA/WPRA during the NFR, and just general NFR PR. On the flip side, it will also be interesting to find out how the PRCA/WPRA treat them during the NFR. Hopefully it is a positive experience for all on both sides. | |
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Conflicting rodeo associations were defined as companies, partnerships or associations or other entities whose direct or indirect purpose is to produce, promote and/or sanction professional rodeo contests in which contestants compete in two or more of the following events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, steer wrestling and team roping.
The way I read it is that they are NOT targeting the contestant who competes in more than one event but any "association" whose production includes more than one event....hence any single event production (team roping, barrel racing, bronc riding, bull riding productions) would NOT be "conflicting" associations.......
I did read it wrong. I shouldn't multi-task...my brain is too old..LOL
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| Nevertooold - 2015-10-24 3:21 PM
Conflicting rodeo associations were defined as companies, partnerships or associations or other entities whose direct or indirect purpose is to produce, promote and/or sanction professional rodeo contests in which contestants compete in two or more of the following events: bareback riding, saddle bronc riding, bull riding, tie-down roping, steer wrestling and team roping.
The way I read it is that they are NOT targeting the contestant who competes in more than one event but any "association" whose production includes more than one event....hence any single event production (team roping, barrel racing, bronc riding, bull riding productions) would NOT be "conflicting" associations....... Â
I did read it wrong. I shouldn't multi-task...my brain is too old..LOL
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That makes two of us NTO. I blame age and working by rear end off at my job. The long days are starting to catch up with me. | |
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | I heard rumors of rumors that WPRA was going to follow the same stance that the PRCA had on members jumping ship? Anyone know that for sure? | |
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| Â PRCA/WPRA has a team rodeo concept innplace right now. It is much different than Major League Rodeo from back in the late 70's.
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Location: 'Hawk Country | sodapop - 2015-10-24 9:02 PM PRCA/WPRA has a team rodeo concept innplace right now. It is much different than Major League Rodeo from back in the late 70's. They just had their finale recently in Waco, Tx.
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| ozcancrasher13 - 2015-10-24 9:51 PM
sodapop - 2015-10-24 9:02 PM Â PRCA/WPRA has a team rodeo concept innplace right now. It is much different than Major League Rodeo from back in the late 70's. They just had their finale recently in Waco, Tx.
 My mistake Waco was not the team finale. | |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-10-22 1:54 PM
Beginning this week, the ERA will release its 2016 tour roster by event throughout the month of October. The 2016 ERA Tour Roster was filled by peer draft, which was made up of founding ERA members who are considered to be the best athletes in the world. They based their decision on a variety of criteria, some of which included: history in the sport, world championship appearances, fan appeal, ability, and they even identified talented up and comers who will be the sports future stars. In the end they selected based on talent, and whom they thought could compete at a very high level.
The 2016 ERA roster is the most decorated group of professional rodeo contestants and has more world champions among them than any other rodeo organization in the world, making each event a must watch for rodeo fans.
There were 10 spots to fill per event for the 2016 tour. Athletes desiring to make the ERA Tour will have the opportunity to earn their way onto the 2017 tour through the qualification system.
More information about the 2017 ERA Qualifying System will be released soon.Â
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