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Location: SE Louisiana | Bibliafarm - 2016-01-22 9:28 PM
crapshooter - 2016-01-22 6:18 PM vjls - 2016-01-22 3:10 PM crapshooter - 2016-01-22 5:51 PM I know. It would be nice though. Especially if the Waltons had to support the poor. why the waltonS  why not the clinton the gates the pelosi   buffet the wealthy liberal let them
i worked my butt off i am 65 and still working  Goodnight johnboy..
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Location: Florida | Bear - 2016-01-22 9:53 AM Trump is masterful at playing the media like a pimp plays a whore. He says things that would have led to the demise of any politician, yet because he is not a career politician, he gets a pass. He looks for opportunities to make outrageous comments and the media comes running, eager to witness his self destruction. Once that happens, he smiles, shrugs his shoulders, and explains or revises his remark. For example he made the remark that he would ban Muslim immigration into this country. Half the people were ecstatic, and the other half gave a collective gasp. The media came running, eager to get their politically correct jabs in on him. Then, Trump explains and modifies his statement to basically mean a temporary ban on all immigration from all countries known to be sources of terrorism....which happen to be Muslim...."at least until we get things figured out." In a subtle way, he has this "aw shucks" schtick about him that enables him to make politically incorrect remarks and get away with them for three reasons: 1. He's not a career politician, 2. He's anti-establishment, and, 3. He uses his hatred of political correctness as a license to be politically INcorrect, almost deliberately. He has almost succeeded in making politically incorrect remarks fashionable, much to the chagrin of the establishment and the media. People are pis$ed off like never before. Trump seizes on the obvious and harnesses the collective energy of the angry mob. He is purposely vague because he uses Gestalt psychology to drive his campaign. He knows that most people only care about the big picture and they want something done about it. They see our southern border and they want it fixed.....Trump promises a big wall. They see China, Japan, and Mexico making fools out of us......Trump promises to fix it. They see ObamaCare as a huge, unpopular mess.....The Donald will get rid of it. They are afraid of ISIS.....the Donald will "bomb the hell out of them" and take oil as payment for our services. They see the Iran-nuclear treaty as a bad deal......Trump will rip it up. Everyone else expected to give specifics.......most people seem to not care about specifics when it comes to Trump. That's because people seem to feel he will get it done, and they don't care how.
Now I know why it is so cold, h### has frozen over! I agree with Bear. Trump is a master at media manipulation and truly believes he can/will be president. I can't imagine what the RNC is going to do, but they can't win with either Trump or Cruz, both to far out there. I am a little surprised they haven't gone big time for the safe pick - another Bush. |
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| Chandler's Mom - 2016-01-22 10:27 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-01-22 5:39 PM lindseylou2290 - 2016-01-22 4:42 PM Bear - 2016-01-22 3:00 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-01-22 2:55 PM 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 2:44 PM It has noting to do with education.
I would venture to guess I am far more educated than most on this forum. What it has to do with is compassion. Myself and those like me are tired of the 1% forcing the rank and file populace into servitude.
What opportunities are they privy too that are not available to others?? I am all for everyone being able to make a comfortable living but the numbers just don't add up. Even if you took 100% of the top 5% income you would have only enough $$ to sustain the current government programs for a few years much less redistribute it. This is backed up my numerous independent studies. How is this $$ going to get in the pockets of others?? The only way is through better wages, better jobs. My husband was/is a common folk who through 70 hour work weeks is now a top wage earner. By no means did he have his foot "on the throat" of the common man. He created jobs and improved the lives of everyone who works for him, they saw financial gains every time he did. Your husband is a capitalist pig who took advantage of a system that rewarded him because he was fortunate enough to be blessed with the ability to work hard and take risks. Not everyone is blessed with those abilities......some people are innately lazy. Wellllll throw my husband and I in that pot too ... we'll all be capitalist pigs together and enjoy the fruits of working our tails off ;- )
For the record, until a work ethic is instilled and handouts go away, our country is in the crapper ..... just sucks that my future children will be left with the mess Obama has created. Handouts and wealth redistribution, as rodeomom pointed out, don't fix spending or budget problems. We have a very successful friend in the oil and gas industry. He does not have a college degree, started working for them right out of high school doing grunt work. He never said no when asked to go do a job, his work ethic moved him up the ladder to now in his late 50's he is making a ton of money. It didn't come quick, it did not come easy and sure didn't come working only 40 hours a week. He and my husband always say the toughest part of their job is finding good people who want to work hard. My husband builds apartments and his subs can't find enough good labor to get the jobs done on time. Where do you live RM3? I'm in the deep South, own my own business, and find it sickening what our labor pool is like. . . . Lots of folks want paychecks but they don't want to have to get off the front porch or the cell phone to have to do it.
We live in the Houston area but the company he works for builds apartments all over the US. He is the National Director for the construction side, in charge of all the being built. |
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| i own a auto repair shop guy want 20.00 and hour and have almost no tools. and if i was stupid enough to pay an young guy with no experiance that amount they always show up late and gp home early, 1.5 hour lunch break and cant move faster than a western pleasure horse. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | So now the GOP is in desperation mode. They are panicking. They can't drum up enough sleeze on Trump and every time there's a debate, his numbers go up afterward. The latest ploy is to devote an entire edition of National Review to a collection of "Anti-Trump" essays by conservative leaders. Trump's reaction.....a smirk, a shrug of his shoulders, and a remark "Well, they've been declining for a long time.....nobody reads that paper anymore."
I'm not saying I'm a Trump backer, but I do think he's been good for politics, because he's turned everything upside down and inside out, starting with political correctness.
To the GOP: it's too late, as$holess. You had your chance. Bush won in 2000 and he had a GOP majority in both houses for 6 years. The GOP had us excited when they won landslides in 2010 and 2014, but nothing changed. We kept circling the toilet. "Conservatism" was a slogan you pulled out of your bag of tricks, but you only talked the talk. People have finally started to realize that our government needs an enema....both parties.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | 1DSoon - 2016-01-22 1:44 PM It has noting to do with education.
I would venture to guess I am far more educated than most on this forum. What it has to do with is compassion. Myself and those like me are tired of the 1% forcing the rank and file populace into servitude.
Intelligence and education are not synonymous. :)
I've been thinking since the beginniing that this will be a Trump vs. Sanders race.
Capitalism vs Communism.
We'll get to see what the United States of America is really made of.
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Hard work still pays off and if we keep demanding, small business will continue to close their doors and Kiosk will take the place of jobs our highschoolers can do.
It's already happened. I never understood the logic of Socialism. Under the premise, nobody gets rich no matter how hard they strive. Takes the fun right of it, don't it? |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | RidenFly - 2016-01-23 9:13 AM I find socialist boring and depressing. Basically, it says; "There's no hope for you, America. No hope at becoming something so great that one day you too can achieve the American dream.
Hard work still pays off and if we keep demanding, small business will continue to close their doors and Kiosk will take the place of jobs our highschoolers can do.
It's already happened. I never understood the logic of Socialism. Under the premise, nobody gets rich no matter how hard they strive. Takes the fun right of it, don't it? I agree (and hi btw!), who was it that said, "Socialism is a great form of governemnt, too bad it doesn't work"?
There's still a sliver of hope for our nation...thanks to the Bundy's (lol...) conversations are happening, books and minds are opening, no matter how that ends up folks are educationg themselves...what we do with that new found education will be up to us and will determine the future of this nation.
Trump is the only candidate supporting the Patriot movement which puts me in his camp.
eta: I amy have to take that back according to this article...hmmmm...guess there's nobody to vote for.
http://twitchy.com/2016/01/22/donald-trump-at-the-shotshow-dont-give-federal-lands-to-the-states-to-manage/
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Location: Florida | I really don't understand Bernie Sanders. He is a socialist, he is off the wall, and I can't figure out who is supporting him. Russia is socialist, but I can't see Putin getting involved. Wait, what am I thinking. Who knows . |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Vickie - 2016-01-23 1:09 PM I really don't understand Bernie Sanders. He is a socialist, he is off the wall, and I can't figure out who is supporting him. Russia is socialist, but I can't see Putin getting involved. Wait, what am I thinking. Who knows .
Bernie is an example of the typical Socialist. He has been in Congress for around 30 years and has done nothing and collects the same pay as the people in Congress that actually do work. He demands his paycheck and blames everyone else for the woes of this country. He can't add 1 + 1 and wants to give deadbeats all kinds of stuff off the sweat of others. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | musikmaker - 2016-01-23 10:24 AM RidenFly - 2016-01-23 9:13 AM I find socialist boring and depressing. Basically, it says; "There's no hope for you, America. No hope at becoming something so great that one day you too can achieve the American dream.
Hard work still pays off and if we keep demanding, small business will continue to close their doors and Kiosk will take the place of jobs our highschoolers can do.
It's already happened. I never understood the logic of Socialism. Under the premise, nobody gets rich no matter how hard they strive. Takes the fun right of it, don't it? I agree (and hi btw!), who was it that said, "Socialism is a great form of governemnt, too bad it doesn't work"?
There's still a sliver of hope for our nation...thanks to the Bundy's (lol...) conversations are happening, books and minds are opening, no matter how that ends up folks are educationg themselves...what we do with that new found education will be up to us and will determine the future of this nation.
Trump is the only candidate supporting the Patriot movement which puts me in his camp.
eta: I amy have to take that back according to this article...hmmmm...guess there's nobody to vote for.
http://twitchy.com/2016/01/22/donald-trump-at-the-shotshow-dont-give-federal-lands-to-the-states-to-manage/
Nothing that the Federal Government has done has kept anything great. Trump just shot himself in the foot with this interview. Proves that people that live in the rat hole of New York City only knows about business and nothing about rural America. I also don't like that he wants to keep using Ethanol. America is so screwed. |
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| Vickie - 2016-01-23 1:09 PM
I really don't understand Bernie Sanders. Â He is a socialist, he is off the wall, and I can't figure out who is supporting him. Â Russia is socialist, but I can't see Putin getting involved. Â Wait, what am I thinking. Â Who knows .
What I really don't understand is how he is allowed to run in the Democrat primary he is not a registered Democrat. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Nevertooold - 2016-01-23 2:26 PM musikmaker - 2016-01-23 10:24 AM RidenFly - 2016-01-23 9:13 AM I find socialist boring and depressing. Basically, it says; "There's no hope for you, America. No hope at becoming something so great that one day you too can achieve the American dream.
Hard work still pays off and if we keep demanding, small business will continue to close their doors and Kiosk will take the place of jobs our highschoolers can do.
It's already happened. I never understood the logic of Socialism. Under the premise, nobody gets rich no matter how hard they strive. Takes the fun right of it, don't it? I agree (and hi btw!), who was it that said, "Socialism is a great form of governemnt, too bad it doesn't work"?
There's still a sliver of hope for our nation...thanks to the Bundy's (lol...) conversations are happening, books and minds are opening, no matter how that ends up folks are educationg themselves...what we do with that new found education will be up to us and will determine the future of this nation.
Trump is the only candidate supporting the Patriot movement which puts me in his camp.
eta: I amy have to take that back according to this article...hmmmm...guess there's nobody to vote for.
http://twitchy.com/2016/01/22/donald-trump-at-the-shotshow-dont-give-federal-lands-to-the-states-to-manage/
I haven't said anything directly to my kids, but my 10 year old says "dump Trump" every time he sees him on TV. Haha I think this interview proves out what I've been thinking for a while, and that is he says what he thinks the people listening want to hear. He doesn't actually "get" all this stuff, he's just good at keeping his ear to the ground and parroting sound bytes.
I saw a clip of him speaking to a group of evangelicals last week and he was trying to quote the bible by saying "two Corinthians" instead of second Corinthians. Clueless misrepresentation of his values. "I know my Bible, I'm a Christian just like you, but I can't even properly cite a well known verse." I would say he must think we're stupid, but Obama was elected twice, and 75% of the people on my FB friends list shared that dumb Mark Zuckerburg post, so we apparently are. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Three 4 Luck - 2016-01-23 3:39 PM Nevertooold - 2016-01-23 2:26 PM musikmaker - 2016-01-23 10:24 AM RidenFly - 2016-01-23 9:13 AM I find socialist boring and depressing. Basically, it says; "There's no hope for you, America. No hope at becoming something so great that one day you too can achieve the American dream.
Hard work still pays off and if we keep demanding, small business will continue to close their doors and Kiosk will take the place of jobs our highschoolers can do.
It's already happened. I never understood the logic of Socialism. Under the premise, nobody gets rich no matter how hard they strive. Takes the fun right of it, don't it? I agree (and hi btw!), who was it that said, "Socialism is a great form of governemnt, too bad it doesn't work"?
There's still a sliver of hope for our nation...thanks to the Bundy's (lol...) conversations are happening, books and minds are opening, no matter how that ends up folks are educationg themselves...what we do with that new found education will be up to us and will determine the future of this nation.
Trump is the only candidate supporting the Patriot movement which puts me in his camp.
eta: I amy have to take that back according to this article...hmmmm...guess there's nobody to vote for.
http://twitchy.com/2016/01/22/donald-trump-at-the-shotshow-dont-give-federal-lands-to-the-states-to-manage/
I saw a clip of him speaking to a group of evangelicals last week and he was trying to quote the bible by saying "two Corinthians" instead of second Corinthians. Clueless misrepresentation of his values. "I know my Bible, I'm a Christian just like you, but I can't even properly cite a well known verse." I would say he must think we're stupid, but Obama was elected twice, and 75% of the people on my FB friends list shared that dumb Mark Zuckerburg post, so we apparently are.
^^^^ THIS ...... too bad people don't really see him for what he is.....an "entertainer" ...... I fear that he will be the last death rattle for the Republican party...... |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | The Republicans proved we no longer have a party after getting control of both houses and doing nothing but lip service.
If I have to listen to Palin for a year, I'm going to have to turn the TV off.
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Location: Oregon | I think both parties need to die. And some sick part of me wants to see Trump in the white house with Congress trying to contain him. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | crapshooter - 2016-01-23 4:55 PM I think both parties need to die. And some sick part of me wants to see Trump in the white house with Congress trying to contain him.
At least he would give us some good laughs..LOL
Right now we don't have a good candidate on either side. Actually, what normal human being would want this job?
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Location: Oregon | Obviously no one wants the job considering the jokers that are running. Seriously this is like the movie Idiocracy, and the rest of the world isn't any better. I'm glad I'm old. |
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