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NJJ
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.
 ^^^^ THIS.......

edited to add: And after a YEAR, if the VET doesn't want to have his practices questioned or bashed, he should step up and rectify the situation...... that would be the PROFESSIONAL thing to do (since VetTV is so hung up on being PROFESSIONAL)

 

Edited by NJJ 2016-01-28 2:03 PM
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TwistedK
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NJJ - 2016-01-28 2:00 PM

bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.
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NJJ
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.
 ^^^^ THIS.......
The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

NO......they were supposed to ship the semen of Vegas Resort.....they sent two straws .... one for Pearl and one for her sister (for embryos). Both were supposed to be from Vegas Resort NOT CBTG.

 
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bennie1
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veintiocho - 2016-01-28 1:56 PM

bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM

Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered?

And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

I don't think it was stolen either. I would guess, based on the information here, it was an honest mistake that has turned into something dishonest by the vet practice due to their unwillingness to rectify the situation.

That's what I'm thinking as well. I'm thinking this could also be a problem with an insurance company that doesn't want to pay up, so the issue is being forced to go to court.
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veintiocho
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Posted 2016-01-28 2:06 PM
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TwistedK - 2016-01-28 2:01 PM

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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

The wrong semen was USED. Could be due to poor housekeeping, new employee, no double check system – whatever- it falls on the vet’s practice, and they are the ones needing to fix it.

Edited by veintiocho 2016-01-28 2:07 PM
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I also wanted to ad:

We were discussing facts we knew about a case that has gone public by the vets unwillingness to work it out in private with thte parties involved. By taking it to court, the case becomes public. Everything in the courts paperwork that does not have a gag order is fair game by Law.
As a mare owner looking for a stallion prospect this year it is very good information to know about malpractices in Vet Clinics. Any Vet Clinic. 

VetTV ranted about us as people and BB's (Chat room buddies), and bashed us not only as a person, but as horse owners as well as seen all through their long post. Going even as far to insult us saying we knew nothing about a veterinary practice or what a vet could and couldn't discuss. Before hand, from what I have read, I saw no bashing to you by us as a person or horse owner. 

My question to you VetTV is why are we the ones who need to conduct ourselves in a business like manner, If you cannot do the same?  Honest question.  
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bennie1
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TwistedK - 2016-01-28 2:01 PM

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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

Uh, the whole problem is the fact this foal's daddy isn't Vegas Resort
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veintiocho
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Posted 2016-01-28 2:10 PM
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

Uh, the whole problem is the fact this foal's daddy isn't Vegas Resort

Right, but the baby's daddy stands at the vet practice where the mare was AI'd.
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bennie1
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Posted 2016-01-28 2:12 PM
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TwistedK - 2016-01-28 2:01 PM

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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

Ooohhhh, are you not getting that this same clinic also did the collections for Vegas Resort? They shipped the semen to Texas to inseminate the mares, they weren't t the ones doing the insemination

Edited by bennie1 2016-01-28 2:13 PM
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bennie1
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Posted 2016-01-28 2:14 PM
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

Uh, the whole problem is the fact this foal's daddy isn't Vegas Resort

Right, but the baby's daddy stands at the vet practice where the mare was AI'd.

No, the semen was shipped to Texas where the mares were. The same clinic collects CBTG AND Vegas Resort
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TwistedK
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 2:12 PM

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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

Ooohhhh, are you not getting that this same clinic also did the collections for Vegas Resort? They shipped the semen to Texas to inseminate the mares, they weren't t the ones doing the insemination

I had forgotten... I just reread everything... sorry
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

Ooohhhh, are you not getting that this same clinic also did the collections for Vegas Resort? They shipped the semen to Texas to inseminate the mares, they weren't t the ones doing the insemination

I had forgotten... I just reread everything... sorry

No worries
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Posted 2016-01-28 2:17 PM
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

Ooohhhh, are you not getting that this same clinic also did the collections for Vegas Resort? They shipped the semen to Texas to inseminate the mares, they weren't t the ones doing the insemination

I had forgotten... I just reread everything... sorry

No worries

Oooh, I missed that! Thanks Bennie
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VetTv
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As I mentioned, I work with veterinarians and monitor online activity. That is what I do. I am trying to be objective and offer information that might help start some thinking on here instead of bashing someone just because you like bashing people. Objective thinking and placing yourself on both sides is the only way that problems are resolved. Feel free to bash me too. I knew I would get bashed for speaking up with objective comments. Hopefully bashing me will give the doctor a little break!
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Posted 2016-01-28 2:18 PM
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 1:50 PM Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered? And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

 ^^^^ THIS.......

The vet clinic is the premises where CBTG stands. So, the wrong semen wasn't shipped.... the stallion was there.

Ooohhhh, are you not getting that this same clinic also did the collections for Vegas Resort? They shipped the semen to Texas to inseminate the mares, they weren't t the ones doing the insemination

I had forgotten... I just reread everything... sorry

No worries

Oooh, I missed that! Thanks Bennie

No worries. ;)

Edited by bennie1 2016-01-28 2:18 PM
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 11:50 AM

Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered?

And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

You don't need papers for a rope horse.
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bennie1
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Posted 2016-01-28 2:20 PM
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bennie1 - 2016-01-28 11:50 AM

Am I the only one that thinks no one 'stole' the Vegas Resort semen as it would be relatively worthless without the mare being on the stallion report so the resulting foal could be registered?

And as far as nobody knowing what happened except the vet and the owner (which owner? Stallion or mare?). Weeelllll, it looks like it's pretty clear the wrong semen was sent. So that is a mistake, a screw up, negligence, whatever you want to call it.

You don't need papers for a rope horse.

No you don't. But it decreases the value of a foal exponentially. You know that. It would be a really stupid move to 'steal' the semen considering all that it takes in training etc. to make a winning rope horse and you wouldn't be able to sell on bloodlines

Edited by bennie1 2016-01-28 2:21 PM
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Posted 2016-01-28 2:22 PM
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VetTv - 2016-01-28 2:17 PM As I mentioned, I work with veterinarians and monitor online activity. That is what I do. I am trying to be objective and offer information that might help start some thinking on here instead of bashing someone just because you like bashing people. Objective thinking and placing yourself on both sides is the only way that problems are resolved. Feel free to bash me too. I knew I would get bashed for speaking up with objective comments. Hopefully bashing me will give the doctor a little break!

OK, speaking objectively, surely there is a contract that SOMEONE breached.  I'm thinking the VET did.   
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VetTv
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Posted 2016-01-28 2:25 PM
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I disagree. I did not say you all were buddies. I was told in my first comment (2 days ago) in the board that you all are buddies. I did not insult you but you are going to take anything I say as an insult. That is typical because I am not participating in your bashing and I don't agree with you. It is funny that I am getting private (supportive) messages now about the situation from very active forum members that knows the chatters in this group.
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VetTv
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Love it! "I'm thinking the vet did". "I'm thinking" is aka I assume. You know what that will get ya.
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