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Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 12:10 AM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 11:53 PM GLP - 2016-03-23 12:42 AM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 10:30 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:22 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 11:20 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:09 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 9:10 PM I would rather have my money feed the hungry than some wall. Trump speaks, but all that comes out is a bunch of yelling that in the end means nothing. I do think that better background checks for all people coming into the country is agreeable because of all that is going on, but we should all remember the heinous crimes done in the name of Christianity and that not all muslims are "evil" and some really are trying to escape bombings.  seroiusly? that isnt just whats coming over the border.. these are ILLEGALS .. the wall isnt to keep out the hungry..we can check all we want but those people  are coming.. illegally..  I didn't mean a wall to keep the hungry out. I meant I would rather support a local food bank than give my money towards building a wall haha easy misunderstanding. Sure a wall will keep out the small time crime, which is great. However, the big crime lords have extensive tunnels and would require much more to keep out. Well drugs is the big time crime I was talking about if you think a wall can stop drug lords that have millions of dollars and resources you are surely mistaken. Generalizing raping and stealing to just illegals ehh.... I guess I feel for the percent of illegal Meixcans (other poor countries ) that face death to come to American who can't afford the $600 legalization who make $5 a day and just want to make a living. I understand it's not right legally and that there are criminals in the bunch. There is no clear-cut way to handle the situation to me because people are suffering. Where do you live? I live in South Texas and illegals are a huge problem down here. Just 30 miles from where I live they discovered a cartel execution. We have "rape Trees" where the scum leave the women's panties in the tree after raping them and leaving them to die of thirst. Coyotes regularly steal trucks to haul illegals in and have no compunction about wrecking the vehicle and killing these people they are bringing over when the border patrol try to pull them over. Happens on a daily basis. So far I have described the crimes of human trafficking, rape, murder and theft. That dang sure is NOT small time crime. Not to mention ranchers being shot at on their own property. A wall won't stop it, but it would slow it down. It is not just Mexicans coming over. Border patrol friends have told us there are a lot of Syrians and Russian speaking people coming over. Used to be, the ranchers left water and food out for the illegals, but now they come up to the houses to steal and have become really aggressive. They attack the oil field workers, stripping them of their clothes and stealing their phones and vehicles. So please explain to me why we don't need a wall again. This is my little piece of the world that I love and it hurts to watch it change into something I don't recognize. Reality is it's a short term solution to a long-term problem. And that is the best Trump's got. There needs to be someone in office who doesn't need some guy to hold his hand during a televised speech. There is not much hope for a candidate who can critically think and actually solve this problem.
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And I hope you won't hold your breath waiting for that genius to come in and save you, because it'll be a cold day in heck before that happens.
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What we do need to do, is stop with the freaking political correctness and start taking care of our own people.... we have too many people holding up their hands for nothing (food stamps, EBT etc....) "You want to eat, you get to work..." And no, I don't want to get rid of those programs, but they need to be implemented for the people that really need it. Plus, why do I have to take a drug test to get a job, but it is not done for unemployment and other help programs.....
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There is a lot that needs working on in this country, but voting for Billary will only make it worse for the hardworking people that made this country great in the first place....Â
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| It seems unfair that there are those that have too much, and those that have too little. It can be hard to watch, personally struggle with etc. I've seen first hand the plight of these immigrants as they cross into my neighborhood. Almost always male, of reasonable health.
I've walked the flea markets and found Obama Tshirts with a halo over his head and something written which translated to savior...its sad. Not just because the T shirt is morally wrong, but because so many believed Obama would change things as promised, so they flocked into my area by the droves. Nothings changed. Certainly not for the rancher dealing with trash, crime, traffic, stolen goods. Can they help themselves? I don't know. Do they care? I think I can say with confidence NO. They feel entitled. Hell, they are given pamplets by their own goverment with propaganda on how to survive over here, and how this used to be mexican territory. They feel like its their birthright. Nobody is protecting my rights. I can tell you that. You can't get a sheriff deputy out here if you see one doing anything. Their hands are tied by the SB fiasco that Arpaio asked about. We're on our own.
You should see their broken and bloodied horses that are ran in unbelievable conditions. When I got my daughter's pony, the lady who owned him had an El Chapo horse. A grey arab/qtr cross. So thin, she was sure it would die. She found lumps under the sheath when she noticed the gelding wouldn't drop to pee. Being grey, she figured cancer, and drug him to the vet where she expected the worse. After a full exam, they realized it was cholla cactus imbedded under the skin of the sheath, under his skin all over his body. Been there so long the skin grew over it. It was a long process to clean him up and get him right. (well, better.)
Do I like the culture? Absolutely. Latinas are great people, great sense of family, oh dang, I love the food and even the music. BUT... even the ones that have businesses here realize it can't keep going this way. Our economy and our desert cannot sustain it. Our hospitals, public service offices, our law enforcement and prisions can't sustain it.
Could you tell a Syrian with bad intent apart from a mexican Illegal? Hell no you can't. And we can't ask.
Just two days ago a latina cafe owner admitted to voting for Trump and ever so gentle progressive left in our town almost destroyed her.
It has to stop. All of it. Other countries have walls, other countries have heavy jail time/penalty for crossing borders. Wake up, America. Please.
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| Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 10:21 AM cranky B4 10am - 2016-03-23 7:17 AM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 12:10 AM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 11:53 PM GLP - 2016-03-23 12:42 AM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 10:30 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:22 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 11:20 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:09 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 9:10 PM I would rather have my money feed the hungry than some wall. Trump speaks, but all that comes out is a bunch of yelling that in the end means nothing. I do think that better background checks for all people coming into the country is agreeable because of all that is going on, but we should all remember the heinous crimes done in the name of Christianity and that not all muslims are "evil" and some really are trying to escape bombings. seroiusly? that isnt just whats coming over the border.. these are ILLEGALS .. the wall isnt to keep out the hungry..we can check all we want but those people are coming.. illegally.. I didn't mean a wall to keep the hungry out. I meant I would rather support a local food bank than give my money towards building a wall haha easy misunderstanding. Sure a wall will keep out the small time crime, which is great. However, the big crime lords have extensive tunnels and would require much more to keep out. Well drugs is the big time crime I was talking about if you think a wall can stop drug lords that have millions of dollars and resources you are surely mistaken. Generalizing raping and stealing to just illegals ehh.... I guess I feel for the percent of illegal Meixcans (other poor countries ) that face death to come to American who can't afford the $600 legalization who make $5 a day and just want to make a living. I understand it's not right legally and that there are criminals in the bunch. There is no clear-cut way to handle the situation to me because people are suffering. Where do you live? I live in South Texas and illegals are a huge problem down here. Just 30 miles from where I live they discovered a cartel execution. We have "rape Trees" where the scum leave the women's panties in the tree after raping them and leaving them to die of thirst. Coyotes regularly steal trucks to haul illegals in and have no compunction about wrecking the vehicle and killing these people they are bringing over when the border patrol try to pull them over. Happens on a daily basis. So far I have described the crimes of human trafficking, rape, murder and theft. That dang sure is NOT small time crime. Not to mention ranchers being shot at on their own property. A wall won't stop it, but it would slow it down. It is not just Mexicans coming over. Border patrol friends have told us there are a lot of Syrians and Russian speaking people coming over. Used to be, the ranchers left water and food out for the illegals, but now they come up to the houses to steal and have become really aggressive. They attack the oil field workers, stripping them of their clothes and stealing their phones and vehicles. So please explain to me why we don't need a wall again. This is my little piece of the world that I love and it hurts to watch it change into something I don't recognize. Reality is it's a short term solution to a long-term problem. And that is the best Trump's got. There needs to be someone in office who doesn't need some guy to hold his hand during a televised speech. There is not much hope for a candidate who can critically think and actually solve this problem.
And I hope you won't hold your breath waiting for that genius to come in and save you, because it'll be a cold day in heck before that happens.
What we do need to do, is stop with the freaking political correctness and start taking care of our own people.... we have too many people holding up their hands for nothing (food stamps, EBT etc....) "You want to eat, you get to work..." And no, I don't want to get rid of those programs, but they need to be implemented for the people that really need it. Plus, why do I have to take a drug test to get a job, but it is not done for unemployment and other help programs.....
There is a lot that needs working on in this country, but voting for Billary will only make it worse for the hardworking people that made this country great in the first place.... We went to the moon, we built an atomic bomb etc. yet we can't find a better way and more permanent solution to this?
on, but we should all remember the heinous crimes done in the name of Christianity a
I do not understand the need to say this. No one has forgot our history. The difference is we have evolved past these heinous actions. These heinous actions are no longer an accepted practice by any segment of our society. How do our wrongs done by Christians to other Christians in the past make what terrorist are doing today any less wrong? Why should we be less saddened and horrified at the cowardly terrorists who are murdering innocent?? No one believes all Muslims are evil.
illegals crossing the border is a violent and dangerous activity for both the US citizens and the immigrants. Thousands of immigrants die in the desserts, we ha two incidents last year where illegals were left in the back of a hot truck to die. It is a nasty, ugly business for coyotes trying to smuggle illegals in.
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cranky B4 10am - 2016-03-23 9:17 AM
Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 8:50 AM cranky B4 10am - 2016-03-23 7:17 AM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 12:10 AM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 11:53 PM GLP - 2016-03-23 12:42 AM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 10:30 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:22 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 11:20 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:09 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 9:10 PM I would rather have my money feed the hungry than some wall. Trump speaks, but all that comes out is a bunch of yelling that in the end means nothing. I do think that better background checks for all people coming into the country is agreeable because of all that is going on, but we should all remember the heinous crimes done in the name of Christianity and that not all muslims are "evil" and some really are trying to escape bombings.  seroiusly? that isnt just whats coming over the border.. these are ILLEGALS .. the wall isnt to keep out the hungry..we can check all we want but those people  are coming.. illegally..Â
 I didn't mean a wall to keep the hungry out. I meant I would rather support a local food bank than give my money towards building a wall haha easy misunderstanding. Sure a wall will keep out the small time crime, which is great. However, the big crime lords have extensive tunnels and would require much more to keep out. Well drugs is the big time crime I was talking about if you think a wall can stop drug lords that have millions of dollars and resources you are surely mistaken. Generalizing raping and stealing to just illegals ehh.... I guess I feel for the percent of illegal Meixcans (other poor countries ) that face death to come to American who can't afford the $600 legalization who make $5 a day and just want to make a living. I understand it's not right legally and that there are criminals in the bunch. There is no clear-cut way to handle the situation to me because people are suffering. Where do you live? I live in South Texas and illegals are a huge problem down here. Just 30 miles from where I live they discovered a cartel execution. We have "rape Trees" where the scum leave the women's panties in the tree after raping them and leaving them to die of thirst. Coyotes regularly steal trucks to haul illegals in and have no compunction about wrecking the vehicle and killing these people they are bringing over when the border patrol try to pull them over. Happens on a daily basis. So far I have described the crimes of human trafficking, rape, murder and theft. That dang sure is NOT small time crime. Not to mention ranchers being shot at on their own property. A wall won't stop it, but it would slow it down. It is not just Mexicans coming over. Border patrol friends have told us there are a lot of Syrians and Russian speaking people coming over. Used to be, the ranchers left water and food out for the illegals, but now they come up to the houses to steal and have become really aggressive. They attack the oil field workers, stripping them of their clothes and stealing their phones and vehicles. So please explain to me why we don't need a wall again. This is my little piece of the world that I love and it hurts to watch it change into something I don't recognize. Reality is it's a short term solution to a long-term problem. And that is the best Trump's got. There needs to be someone in office who doesn't need some guy to hold his hand during a televised speech. There is not much hope for a candidate who can critically think and actually solve this problem.
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And I hope you won't hold your breath waiting for that genius to come in and save you, because it'll be a cold day in heck before that happens.
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What we do need to do, is stop with the freaking political correctness and start taking care of our own people.... we have too many people holding up their hands for nothing (food stamps, EBT etc....) "You want to eat, you get to work..." And no, I don't want to get rid of those programs, but they need to be implemented for the people that really need it. Plus, why do I have to take a drug test to get a job, but it is not done for unemployment and other help programs.....
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There is a lot that needs working on in this country, but voting for Billary will only make it worse for the hardworking people that made this country great in the first place....
 My only point was Trump wasn't prepared for his job, yet he was given an exception. Furthermore, the rule was bent for him to have a moderator and for the other candatites who already were prepardd to have a moderator.At my job I am supposed to be prepared and ready not bend the rules because I wasn't prepared. I want a president who does his job.  And you are right about the fact that everybody has to be prepared in their job, and it doesn't matter which job that is.... But you also know that sometimes things happen, and you have to have some help from others... that is what a good leader does... recognizing when he needs to delegate, or ask for help.
But hey, just stick your head in the sand. It'll be alright.... once you are done working off your debt I am sure there are people lining up to mooch off of you.  Â
He got money from his daddy and went bankrupt four times...now who's head is in the sand.
4 of his investments went bankrupt. Not he himself. This shows he knows when to throw in the towel and quit, rather than throw good money after bad. (Unlike the people we have in government today. ) | |
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Location: Florida | As far as a wall goes, as unpractical as it is, has anyone thought about the wild life that migrate up and down the Americas. And the rivers, are you going to **** them? A wall is the stupided, most impractical idea ever. If you want to stop drug dealers, how about stop Americans from buying their drugs. When are we going to accept responsibility for buying the drugs and causing this problem? Americans are causing this, stop buying their posion!!! | |
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| Vickie - 2016-03-23 2:48 PM As far as a wall goes, as unpractical as it is, has anyone thought about the wild life that migrate up and down the Americas. And the rivers, are you going to **** them? A wall is the stupided, most impractical idea ever. If you want to stop drug dealers, how about stop Americans from buying their drugs. When are we going to accept responsibility for buying the drugs and causing this problem? Americans are causing this, stop buying their posion!!!
In no way shape or form do I believe a wall will ever be built by anyone. I agree with you about the demand for drugs being the problem. | |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Vickie - 2016-03-23 2:48 PM
As far as a wall goes, as unpractical as it is, has anyone thought about the wild life that migrate up and down the Americas. Â And the rivers, are you going to **** them? Â A wall is the stupided, most impractical idea ever. Â If you want to stop drug dealers, how about stop Americans from buying their drugs. Â When are we going to accept responsibility for buying the drugs and causing this problem? Â Americans are causing this, stop buying their posion!!!Â
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| rodeomom3 - 2016-03-23 1:52 PM
Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 10:21 AM cranky B4 10am - 2016-03-23 7:17 AM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 12:10 AM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 11:53 PM GLP - 2016-03-23 12:42 AM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 10:30 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:22 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 11:20 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:09 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 9:10 PM I would rather have my money feed the hungry than some wall. Trump speaks, but all that comes out is a bunch of yelling that in the end means nothing. I do think that better background checks for all people coming into the country is agreeable because of all that is going on, but we should all remember the heinous crimes done in the name of Christianity and that not all muslims are "evil" and some really are trying to escape bombings.  seroiusly? that isnt just whats coming over the border.. these are ILLEGALS .. the wall isnt to keep out the hungry..we can check all we want but those people  are coming.. illegally..  I didn't mean a wall to keep the hungry out. I meant I would rather support a local food bank than give my money towards building a wall haha easy misunderstanding. Sure a wall will keep out the small time crime, which is great. However, the big crime lords have extensive tunnels and would require much more to keep out. Well drugs is the big time crime I was talking about if you think a wall can stop drug lords that have millions of dollars and resources you are surely mistaken. Generalizing raping and stealing to just illegals ehh.... I guess I feel for the percent of illegal Meixcans (other poor countries ) that face death to come to American who can't afford the $600 legalization who make $5 a day and just want to make a living. I understand it's not right legally and that there are criminals in the bunch. There is no clear-cut way to handle the situation to me because people are suffering. Where do you live? I live in South Texas and illegals are a huge problem down here. Just 30 miles from where I live they discovered a cartel execution. We have "rape Trees" where the scum leave the women's panties in the tree after raping them and leaving them to die of thirst. Coyotes regularly steal trucks to haul illegals in and have no compunction about wrecking the vehicle and killing these people they are bringing over when the border patrol try to pull them over. Happens on a daily basis. So far I have described the crimes of human trafficking, rape, murder and theft. That dang sure is NOT small time crime. Not to mention ranchers being shot at on their own property. A wall won't stop it, but it would slow it down. It is not just Mexicans coming over. Border patrol friends have told us there are a lot of Syrians and Russian speaking people coming over. Used to be, the ranchers left water and food out for the illegals, but now they come up to the houses to steal and have become really aggressive. They attack the oil field workers, stripping them of their clothes and stealing their phones and vehicles. So please explain to me why we don't need a wall again. This is my little piece of the world that I love and it hurts to watch it change into something I don't recognize. Reality is it's a short term solution to a long-term problem. And that is the best Trump's got. There needs to be someone in office who doesn't need some guy to hold his hand during a televised speech. There is not much hope for a candidate who can critically think and actually solve this problem.
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And I hope you won't hold your breath waiting for that genius to come in and save you, because it'll be a cold day in heck before that happens.
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What we do need to do, is stop with the freaking political correctness and start taking care of our own people.... we have too many people holding up their hands for nothing (food stamps, EBT etc....) "You want to eat, you get to work..." And no, I don't want to get rid of those programs, but they need to be implemented for the people that really need it. Plus, why do I have to take a drug test to get a job, but it is not done for unemployment and other help programs.....
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There is a lot that needs working on in this country, but voting for Billary will only make it worse for the hardworking people that made this country great in the first place.... We went to the moon, we built an atomic bomb etc. yet we can't find a better way and more permanent solution to this?  o n, but we should all remember the heinous crimes done in the name of Christianity a I do not understand the need to say this.  No one has forgot our history.  The difference is we have evolved past these heinous actions.  These heinous actions are no longer an accepted practice by any segment of our society.  How do our wrongs done by Christians to other Christians in the past make what terrorist are doing today any less wrong?  Why should we be less saddened and horrified at the cowardly terrorists who are murdering innocent?? No one believes all Muslims are evil.
illegals crossing the border is a violent and dangerous activity for both the US citizens and the immigrants.  Thousands of immigrants die in the desserts, we ha two incidents last year where illegals  were left in the back of a hot truck to die.  It is a nasty, ugly business for coyotes trying to smuggle illegals in.
I didn't mean terrorists today are any less wrong, but there are people who do believe all Muslims are bad unfortunately. All I mean is people are people no matter what religion and not to forget that.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2016-03-23 3:08 PM Vickie - 2016-03-23 2:48 PM As far as a wall goes, as unpractical as it is, has anyone thought about the wild life that migrate up and down the Americas. And the rivers, are you going to **** them? A wall is the stupided, most impractical idea ever. If you want to stop drug dealers, how about stop Americans from buying their drugs. When are we going to accept responsibility for buying the drugs and causing this problem? Americans are causing this, stop buying their posion!!! What wildlife besides birds and butterflies migrate into and out of America to the south on an annual basis?
I am glad you asked.....little did I know either......Bison and.....
Environmentalists and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service wardens say the barrier would disrupt the migration of scores of species from jaguars to hawks and humming birds along a wildlife corridor linking northern Mexico and the U.S. southwest known as the "Sky Islands."
The chain of 40 mountain ranges links the northern range of tropical species such as the jaguar and the parrot in the Mexican Sierra Madre Mountains, and the southern limit of temperate animals such as the black bear and the Mexican wolf in the U.S. Rocky Mountains.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Vickie - 2016-03-23 2:48 PM As far as a wall goes, as unpractical as it is, has anyone thought about the wild life that migrate up and down the Americas. And the rivers, are you going to **** them? A wall is the stupided, most impractical idea ever. If you want to stop drug dealers, how about stop Americans from buying their drugs. When are we going to accept responsibility for buying the drugs and causing this problem? Americans are causing this, stop buying their posion!!!
Tick riders roundup cattle that come over the Rio Grande River. The cattle are put under quarantine and are treated and dipped so the ticks can't take a foot hold in the US. The tick riders have done a good job in keeping our cattle safe from disease that Mexican cattle carry.
Equine piroplasmosis, a blood-borne disease, was brought over here by Mexicans snmuggling their race horses back and forth across the border. The King Ranch was hit hard and pretty much killed off their herd. We sure don't need any kind of animal crossing back and forth from Mexico to the US.
equine piroplasmosis, a blood-borne disease
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| Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 3:28 PM rodeomom3 - 2016-03-23 1:52 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 10:21 AM cranky B4 10am - 2016-03-23 7:17 AM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-23 12:10 AM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 11:53 PM GLP - 2016-03-23 12:42 AM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 10:30 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:22 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 11:20 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-03-22 10:09 PM Kaitlyn19 - 2016-03-22 9:10 PM I would rather have my money feed the hungry than some wall. Trump speaks, but all that comes out is a bunch of yelling that in the end means nothing. I do think that better background checks for all people coming into the country is agreeable because of all that is going on, but we should all remember the heinous crimes done in the name of Christianity and that not all muslims are "evil" and some really are trying to escape bombings. seroiusly? that isnt just whats coming over the border.. these are ILLEGALS .. the wall isnt to keep out the hungry..we can check all we want but those people are coming.. illegally..
I didn't mean a wall to keep the hungry out. I meant I would rather support a local food bank than give my money towards building a wall haha easy misunderstanding. Sure a wall will keep out the small time crime, which is great. However, the big crime lords have extensive tunnels and would require much more to keep out. Well drugs is the big time crime I was talking about if you think a wall can stop drug lords that have millions of dollars and resources you are surely mistaken. Generalizing raping and stealing to just illegals ehh.... I guess I feel for the percent of illegal Meixcans (other poor countries ) that face death to come to American who can't afford the $600 legalization who make $5 a day and just want to make a living. I understand it's not right legally and that there are criminals in the bunch. There is no clear-cut way to handle the situation to me because people are suffering. Where do you live? I live in South Texas and illegals are a huge problem down here. Just 30 miles from where I live they discovered a cartel execution. We have "rape Trees" where the scum leave the women's panties in the tree after raping them and leaving them to die of thirst. Coyotes regularly steal trucks to haul illegals in and have no compunction about wrecking the vehicle and killing these people they are bringing over when the border patrol try to pull them over. Happens on a daily basis. So far I have described the crimes of human trafficking, rape, murder and theft. That dang sure is NOT small time crime. Not to mention ranchers being shot at on their own property. A wall won't stop it, but it would slow it down. It is not just Mexicans coming over. Border patrol friends have told us there are a lot of Syrians and Russian speaking people coming over. Used to be, the ranchers left water and food out for the illegals, but now they come up to the houses to steal and have become really aggressive. They attack the oil field workers, stripping them of their clothes and stealing their phones and vehicles. So please explain to me why we don't need a wall again. This is my little piece of the world that I love and it hurts to watch it change into something I don't recognize. Reality is it's a short term solution to a long-term problem. And that is the best Trump's got. There needs to be someone in office who doesn't need some guy to hold his hand during a televised speech. There is not much hope for a candidate who can critically think and actually solve this problem.
And I hope you won't hold your breath waiting for that genius to come in and save you, because it'll be a cold day in heck before that happens.
What we do need to do, is stop with the freaking political correctness and start taking care of our own people.... we have too many people holding up their hands for nothing (food stamps, EBT etc....) "You want to eat, you get to work..." And no, I don't want to get rid of those programs, but they need to be implemented for the people that really need it. Plus, why do I have to take a drug test to get a job, but it is not done for unemployment and other help programs.....
There is a lot that needs working on in this country, but voting for Billary will only make it worse for the hardworking people that made this country great in the first place....
We went to the moon, we built an atomic bomb etc. yet we can't find a better way and more permanent solution to this?
o n, but we should all remember the heinous crimes done in the name of Christianity a
I do not understand the need to say this. No one has forgot our history. The difference is we have evolved past these heinous actions. These heinous actions are no longer an accepted practice by any segment of our society. How do our wrongs done by Christians to other Christians in the past make what terrorist are doing today any less wrong? Why should we be less saddened and horrified at the cowardly terrorists who are murdering innocent?? No one believes all Muslims are evil.
illegals crossing the border is a violent and dangerous activity for both the US citizens and the immigrants. Thousands of immigrants die in the desserts, we ha two incidents last year where illegals were left in the back of a hot truck to die. It is a nasty, ugly business for coyotes trying to smuggle illegals in. I didn't mean terrorists today are any less wrong, but there are people who do believe all Muslims are bad unfortunately. All I mean is people are people no matter what religion and not to forget that.
Comparing the thought process of people centuries ago who burned people at the stake or threw them in a lake because they were a "witch" to the acts committed today has no bearing a all. It is not a case of the kettle calling the pot black because we no longer do that in the name of religion, Christianity ended those practices a couple of centuries ago. | |
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Location: Nebraska | "Christianity ended those practices a couple of centuries ago."
Yes, the Crusades are over, but a lot of Christians I know are still doing awful things- discriminating against gays, trying to make safe abortions and birth control illegal... You can't exactly say every single Christian is guiltless.
With the election coming up, we need to elect somebody strong enough to handle ISIS correctly. The problem is, none of the candidates instill much confidence on this front- Bernie is good about getting things done, but a Socialist is not what this country needs and he doesn't exactly stand out on the foreign relations part. Cruz is sane but is still pretty scary because of how destructive he is- and also, I'm not sure a Canadian is the best person to head the United States. Hillary is god-awful, just going to leave it at that. And Trump has fascist ideals and just wants to see the country torn to shreds. Not impressed. | |
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| RockyMountainRacer - 2016-03-23 8:00 PM "Christianity ended those practices a couple of centuries ago." Yes, the Crusades are over, but a lot of Christians I know are still doing awful things- discriminating against gays, trying to make safe abortions and birth control illegal... You can't exactly say every single Christian is guiltless. With the election coming up, we need to elect somebody strong enough to handle ISIS correctly. The problem is, none of the candidates instill much confidence on this front- Bernie is good about getting things done, but a Socialist is not what this country needs and he doesn't exactly stand out on the foreign relations part. Cruz is sane but is still pretty scary because of how destructive he is- and also, I'm not sure a Canadian is the best person to head the United States. Hillary is god-awful, just going to leave it at that. And Trump has fascist ideals and just wants to see the country torn to shreds. Not impressed.
I don't disagree at all but it is a far stretch to compare trying to end late term abortions to blowing people up or burning prisoners alive. I don't know of anyone trying to make birth control illegal, they may not want their tax dollars to pay for it though. Discrimination of any sort is wrong and slowly that is changing. | |
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| I live on the boarder of Mexico it's very scary but a lot of them are allowed to cross with card because they work on this side,they also have address on this side because they use friends and family and with that they receive food stamps and medical which is crazy I think there are Americans who need help more. | |
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Location: Florida.. | RockyMountainRacer - 2016-03-23 9:00 PM "Christianity ended those practices a couple of centuries ago." Yes, the Crusades are over, but a lot of Christians I know are still doing awful things- discriminating against gays, trying to make safe abortions and birth control illegal... You can't exactly say every single Christian is guiltless. With the election coming up, we need to elect somebody strong enough to handle ISIS correctly. The problem is, none of the candidates instill much confidence on this front- Bernie is good about getting things done, but a Socialist is not what this country needs and he doesn't exactly stand out on the foreign relations part. Cruz is sane but is still pretty scary because of how destructive he is- and also, I'm not sure a Canadian is the best person to head the United States. Hillary is god-awful, just going to leave it at that. And Trump has fascist ideals and just wants to see the country torn to shreds. Not impressed.
I dont consider taxing the people double what they are now and promising free college and hand outs "getting things done" I consider that riding on others shirttails.. | |
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Location: Nebraska | Bibliafarm - 2016-03-23 7:59 PM
RockyMountainRacer - 2016-03-23 9:00 PM "Christianity ended those practices a couple of centuries ago." Yes, the Crusades are over, but a lot of Christians I know are still doing awful things- discriminating against gays, trying to make safe abortions and birth control illegal... You can't exactly say every single Christian is guiltless. With the election coming up, we need to elect somebody strong enough to handle ISIS correctly. The problem is, none of the candidates instill much confidence on this front- Bernie is good about getting things done, but a Socialist is not what this country needs and he doesn't exactly stand out on the foreign relations part. Cruz is sane but is still pretty scary because of how destructive he is- and also, I'm not sure a Canadian is the best person to head the United States. Hillary is god-awful, just going to leave it at that. And Trump has fascist ideals and just wants to see the country torn to shreds. Not impressed.
 I dont consider taxing the people double what they are now and promising free college and hand outs "getting things done" I consider that riding on others shirttails..
What I mean is that he's dedicated and doesn't beat around the bush- he just seems to stick to his plan and power through. Sorry, should have been more clear. | |
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Location: Kansas | I believe in the next few months before the November elections, Dems will be clearing their desks to make legalizing as many illegals as possible their priority....... so they can vote by that time. Since they treasure our entitlements they will vote for Hillary (who also believes in open borders.) Illegals are already enjoying Social Security benefits. | |
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| RidenFly - 2016-03-23 1:03 PM
It seems unfair that there are those that have too much, and those that have too little. It can be hard to watch, personally struggle with etc. I've seen first hand the plight of these immigrants as they cross into my neighborhood. Almost always male, of reasonable health.Â
  I've walked the flea markets and found Obama Tshirts with a halo over his head and something written which translated to savior...its sad. Not just because the T shirt is morally wrong, but because so many believed Obama would change things as promised, so they flocked into my area by the droves. Nothings changed. Certainly not for the rancher dealing with trash, crime, traffic, stolen goods. Can they help themselves? I don't know. Do they care? I think I can say with confidence NO. They feel entitled. Hell, they are given pamplets by their own goverment with propaganda on how to survive over here, and how this used to be mexican territory. They feel like its their birthright.  Nobody is protecting my rights. I can tell you that. You can't get a sheriff deputy out here if you see one doing anything. Their hands are tied by the SB fiasco that Arpaio asked about.  We're on our own.Â
  You should see their broken and bloodied horses that are ran in unbelievable conditions. When I got my daughter's pony, the lady who owned him had an El Chapo horse. A grey arab/qtr cross. So thin, she was sure it would die. She found lumps under the sheath when she noticed the gelding wouldn't drop to pee. Being grey, she figured cancer, and drug him to the vet where she expected the worse. After a full exam, they realized it was cholla cactus imbedded under the skin of the sheath, under his skin all over his body. Been there so long the skin grew over it.  It was a long process to clean him up and get him right. (well, better.) Â
 Do I like the culture? Absolutely. Latinas are great people, great sense of family, oh dang, I love the food and even the music. BUT... even the ones that have businesses here realize it can't keep going this way. Our economy and our desert cannot sustain it. Our hospitals, public service offices, our law enforcement and prisions can't sustain it.  Â
Could you tell a Syrian with bad intent apart from a mexican Illegal? Hell no you can't. And we can't ask.   Â
Just two days ago a latina cafe owner admitted to voting for Trump and ever so gentle progressive left in our town almost destroyed her. Â
It has to stop. All of it. Other countries have walls, other countries have heavy jail time/penalty for crossing borders. Wake up, America. Please.
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Thanks for sharing your insight Riden - those of us who live in the center of the US don't have any idea what it's like there closer to the border. | |
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