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Just saw Target is allowing employees and customers to use whatever restroom AND dressing room that corresponds with their gender identity.
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Location: Prosser, WA | WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM
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WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway..
There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag.
Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using. | |
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Location: Midwest | I am undecided on this law, but if someone is a sexual deviant, I'm pretty sure they are probably not concerned with breaking any laws related to the bathroom usage.
Any accusations of molestation would be investigated. In society, some men will be deviant with young boys, as well as some women with young girls.
I don't forsee this law having a strong influence of the frequency of abuse. If someone is sick enough to molest a child, they will find a way to do it, and I don't think most of these people act in public anyway- too big a chance of getting caught.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
My problem is not the fact of transgender. Nor molestation, because that can occur in any bathroom with the current laws we have.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. | |
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On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope.
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kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope.
Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO. | |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I don't have a fear. The gay/transgender thing as stated isn't an issue with me. I have a gay son and a step daughter who is married to a woman.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
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FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods? | |
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Location: N Texas | I'm really curious how many people have been in a restroom with a transgender person and never knew it.
I don't think there's a good solution, people are going to be uncomfortable either way. A woman who has transitioned to male, has full facial hair and looks entirely male is going to be welcome in a women's restroom? Yeah right. | |
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Unless he doesn't have them...in which case...
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:47 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 10:26 AM FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods?
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 12:02 PM
I'm really curious how many people have been in a restroom with a transgender person and never knew it.
I don't think there's a good solution, people are going to be uncomfortable either way. A woman who has transitioned to male, has full facial hair and looks entirely male is going to be welcome in a women's restroom? Yeah right.
Probably a lot. This has been going on for years. That is why many don't have a problem with people who truly are transgender. It is the perverts like the man who was arrested in Rome GA yesterday that everyone should be concerned about. And that has been going on for a long time too | |
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Location: N Texas | 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 11:38 AM
Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:47 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 10:26 AM FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods?
I did read the whole thing. Are there women's restrooms in your area that have urinals, or where people are going to the bathroom in front of each other without any doors and walls to separate them? I've only used restrooms where each individual toilet had their own walls and doors, so there's no way to know if someone next to me has a penis without using x-ray vision.
ETA: or are you saying there are unisex restrooms that have both stalls AND urinals?
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On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods? I did read the whole thing. Are there women's restrooms in your area that have urinals, or where people are going to the bathroom in front of each other without any doors and walls to separate them? I've only used restrooms where each individual toilet had their own walls and doors, so there's no way to know if someone next to me has a penis without using x-ray vision.
Gunner, as a mom, are you okay with a strange man urinating a few feet from your kid no matter what seperates them? And in every stall I've ever used, there are plenty of cracks. Ever have that awkward moment when you catch someone's eye while your in the stall? It's not safe, and again, how would that make a child feel when they've been lectured about stranger danger. | |
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| RidenFly - 2016-04-21 12:49 PM
Gunner11 - 2016-04-22 9:43 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 11:38 AM Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:47 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 10:26 AM FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods? I did read the whole thing. Are there women's restrooms in your area that have urinals, or where people are going to the bathroom in front of each other without any doors and walls to separate them? I've only used restrooms where each individual toilet had their own walls and doors, so there's no way to know if someone next to me has a penis without using x-ray vision.
It's JUST a penis. Every guy has one. How about instead of sheltering your kids, you explain the basic anatomy to them. Until they are trying to shove it down their throat, I don't see the issue. | |
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Location: N Texas | RidenFly - 2016-04-21 11:49 AM
Gunner11 - 2016-04-22 9:43 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 11:38 AM Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:47 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 10:26 AM FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods? I did read the whole thing. Are there women's restrooms in your area that have urinals, or where people are going to the bathroom in front of each other without any doors and walls to separate them? I've only used restrooms where each individual toilet had their own walls and doors, so there's no way to know if someone next to me has a penis without using x-ray vision.
Happens all the time in porta-potties...the only thing separating you from the person next to you is a thin plastic wall, so men urinate next to young girls all the time and nobody throws a fit about that. I'm not trying to start a debate on what a parent should and shouldn't feel comfortable with, I was just asking for clarification on how a girl would see a man's penis if they are each in their own private stall. | |
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| Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:43 AM
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Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:47 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 10:26 AM FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods?
I did read the whole thing. Are there women's restrooms in your area that have urinals, or where people are going to the bathroom in front of each other without any doors and walls to separate them? I've only used restrooms where each individual toilet had their own walls and doors, so there's no way to know if someone next to me has a penis without using x-ray vision.
I'm with you on this! I have never been to a public restroom with multiple toilets that didn't have stalls with doors. I have seen public restrooms with a toilet and a urinal but they were single occupant only. Unless a child is peeking under the stall wall or door or through the cracks, there should be no issue with what ever body part is attached to the person in the stall next to you.
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-04-22 9:54 AM RidenFly - 2016-04-21 12:49 PM Gunner11 - 2016-04-22 9:43 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 11:38 AM Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:47 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 10:26 AM FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods? I did read the whole thing. Are there women's restrooms in your area that have urinals, or where people are going to the bathroom in front of each other without any doors and walls to separate them? I've only used restrooms where each individual toilet had their own walls and doors, so there's no way to know if someone next to me has a penis without using x-ray vision. It's JUST a penis. Every guy has one. How about instead of sheltering your kids, you explain the basic anatomy to them. Until they are trying to shove it down their throat, I don't see the issue.
Tell rape victims its just a penis. I'll continue to shelter my kids while I educate them. You're expecting alot of dicipline out of nature. I'm not about to trust a man I don't know to be that close to my kid. Not going to happen. | |
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| cyount2009 - 2016-04-21 9:59 AM
Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:43 AM
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Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:47 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 10:26 AM FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods?
I did read the whole thing. Are there women's restrooms in your area that have urinals, or where people are going to the bathroom in front of each other without any doors and walls to separate them? I've only used restrooms where each individual toilet had their own walls and doors, so there's no way to know if someone next to me has a penis without using x-ray vision.
I'm with you on this! I have never been to a public restroom with multiple toilets that didn't have stalls with doors. I have seen public restrooms with a toilet and a urinal but they were single occupant only. Unless a child is peeking under the stall wall or door or through the cracks, there should be no issue with what ever body part is attached to the person in the stall next to you.
LOL I asked a couple of pre-op transgendered male to female people what they do when they go into a stall in a womens restroom. They " Sit" like a woman does and they " TUCK" to pee. LOL SO even if a man WAS next to you in a stall and there was a crack, I doubt anyone would see a weiner anyway. lol  | |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | RidenFly - 2016-04-21 9:59 AM
FlyingHigh1454 - 2016-04-22 9:54 AM RidenFly - 2016-04-21 12:49 PM Gunner11 - 2016-04-22 9:43 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 11:38 AM Gunner11 - 2016-04-21 11:47 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 10:26 AM FLITASTIC - 2016-04-21 11:17 AM 3canstorun - 2016-04-21 7:41 AM kakbarrelracer - 2016-04-21 1:03 AM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 9:04 PM Bibliafarm - 2016-04-19 10:58 PM WrapSnap - 2016-04-19 11:45 PM For those of you who have never had any experience with a transgendered individual and all that goes into "transitioning", I can promise you that the process is far more involved than simply a person dressing as the opposite gender. Yes, transgender is a psychiatric disorder. Actually, it is the only psychiatric disorder for which the only known cure is a physical surgery. In order to legally transition, get specific surgeries, receive identification with your new identity, etc... a person undergoes much psychiatric evaluation, counseling and the like. An individual must also live for a year as their new gender, all the while under supervision of mental health providers, to ensure that they are transitioning well and correctly. This is not simply a matter of a man deciding to slip on a dress, or a woman bandaging her chest down. Thats correct.. I think most of the people not wanting this legalized is due to the many perverts out there that will "pretend" they are to just get in that bathroom and noone can say a thing because its "legal" .. if this pervert harmed a child or was attmepting to without proof a police can do nothing because its legal for them to be in there.. Just to clarify.. this is not a transgender pervert..the transgender isnt what has others that I have talked to concerned.. I dont think anyway.. There has to be legal documentation. If you are far enough long in a transition, you will have been issued new identification. Say there was a question concerning something that were to happen in the bathroom, if you can't provide proper identification upon request, you're behind is in a sling. This has been the norm for some time. Even most of my female illusionist friends (who have no desire to be women ) have identification with them both in and out of drag. Actually Washington's law is that any one can use any restroom and no one has the right to question some one about the bathroom they are using.
On the bathrooms that are more then one stall, and can be used by everyone/any sex, I don't want little girls seeing peckers. And, some of the new laws are making it so anyone/any sex in more then single stalls can do that. (Urinals on the wall). It is one thing to be running around naked at home, but to expose children to "outside" naked body parts, nope. Whats the fear? I do see your point of view, but thats what they are, body parts. Everyone has them. I was raised with my parents being very open and honest about the things I " Might" see. If I had a question, it got answered, immediately and honestly. Being a rodeo kid ( I'm male ) I saw my fair share of peckers from West coat to east coast and everything inbetween. I also saw my fair share of female parts upper and lower and everything inbetween. lol I see no reason to shelter children from the human body. Of course if questions arise, then age appropriate responses should be considered, but by the time kids start school at age 4 they are pretty well aware of what exists under clothes. I do know nudist families who have raised children to see naked people and be around naked family members and everyone else from a very young age and I do not see any developmental issues related to it. JMO.
I just feel that my young kids should not be exposed to strange peckers. And, while I do know they "teach/tell" things a little earlier then we did, it is still a private matter. And, it raises questions "mom, why is that man showing his penis?", especially after you gave the kid stranger/danger talks. How mind boggling to a 4 year old. At their age their digesting info is distorted compared to a teenager.
I'm slightly confused. There aren't urinals in women's restrooms, and unless your daughter is in the same stall as a transgender, how would she see his goods? I did read the whole thing. Are there women's restrooms in your area that have urinals, or where people are going to the bathroom in front of each other without any doors and walls to separate them? I've only used restrooms where each individual toilet had their own walls and doors, so there's no way to know if someone next to me has a penis without using x-ray vision. It's JUST a penis. Every guy has one. How about instead of sheltering your kids, you explain the basic anatomy to them. Until they are trying to shove it down their throat, I don't see the issue.
I agree. And I think I should be able to choose whether or not my daughter sees a penis, and not have to explain why a boy is in the girls room. Yes, it is just a penis. But my little girl doesn't need to see one. Has she seen one at school? I wouldn't doubt it. But in regards to a public restroom with a grown man? Not ok with me. | |
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