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Location: North Texas | RidenFly - 2016-08-02 1:33 PM
There is no way they will give Trump the win. Even if Trump prevails in the polls, Obama will never walk away handing it to Trump.  I think we can all agree there is a pro muslim/islam movement within our goverment and under no circumstances will they allow anyone to derail the plan. Trump was never supposed to have gotten this far. I can forsee desperate measures happening soon. Very scary times, people. Very.
The time between Nov 2nd, 2016 and Jan. 20th 2017 has an enormous potential to be extremely interesting to say the least in The United States of America. |
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Location: North Texas | Vickie - 2016-08-02 5:18 PM
They are determined that everyone agrees with them and if things don't go their way it must be a big plot. Â I don't know how they sleep at night. Â I hate "make America again" I believe American has been and is still great.
Then why oh why was America only great AFTER BHO was nominated for POTUS in 2008 per Michelle Obama's speech "For the first time in my adult life"? |
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| Bear - 2016-08-02 7:30 PM
Vickie - 2016-08-02 5:18 PM
They are determined that everyone agrees with them and if things don't go their way it must be a big plot. Â I don't know how they sleep at night. Â I hate "make America again" I believe American has been and is still great.
Most Americans (roughly 70% ) feel we are heading in the wrong direction, the wrong trajectory. Evidently you, and other progressive-liberals like where we are headed. Knowing their ultimate goal of a socialist utopia under the control of an elite liberal intelligentsia, and knowing how Obama has made huge inroads toward the realization of that goal, one can easily see how people of your ilk would be ecstatic.
You can be proud of:
- a doubling of the national debt in less than 8 years, with more to come, such that we will owe $21 trillion when that lop-eared bastard finally leaves.
- a false, misleading statistic regarding unemployment, with a huge percentage of people who have simply given up on seeking employment, and are counted amongst the employed.
-20% of American families without a single member gainfully employed, thus in dire need of taxpayer funded support.
- An unemployment rate for blacks that is twice that of whites.
- A HS graduation rate of about 50% for blacks, compared to 80% for whites.
- Over 70% of black babies are born out of wedlock.....hence, a growing, dependent faction of our society.
- A porous southern border allowing non US citizens free access to government benefits, and the free flow of illegal drugs across the border and whole cities allowing legal refuge for these criminals and people who have broken our laws, while making inroads in allowing these illegals to actually vote in our elections.
-An economic recovery that is the worst in over 60 years, with a pitiful 1.2 % rise in the GDP in the last quarter.
- A healthcare system that is in a state of chaos, destined to collapse, thanks to ObamaCare.....setting the stage for a collective outcry for a complete government takeover (single payer ).
- Deep divisions across the country, in countless ways, possibly the worst since the Civil War. Gender, sexual orientation, race, religion, ethnicity, class, etc.... All contributing to the chaos and disharmony.
- Widespread, brazen, corruption in politics, the judiciary, the IRS, and even the media.
- A vast, growing faction of our society enslaved by increasing dependence on a bloated government.
- A Social Security and Medicare system hurtling toward insolvency....paving the way for increasing demands for increased taxes.
- A declining educational system, by design, that currently places us around 30th in world rankings.
Those are just a few achievements on the domestic front. You folks deserve to be proud. "Transformational change" is on a roll, and your juggernaut has gained momentum.
The 70% of people who feel America is headed in the wrong direction are apparently not asked why they feel that way, and Conservatives just assume they mean that those people agree with their views. Actually, without asking people polled why they feel that way, that question has no relevance since I am sure Progressives, and many conservatives, are not happy with the the sentiment in America that has sent a man like Donald Trump to become the Republican nominee for President. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | They've felt this way for quite some time now Ms Finney. Trump had nothing to do with this downward trajectory, rather, he is a byproduct of decades of political cronyism and corruption. DC is lousy with it.
It didn't have to be Trump. It could have been someone else who is not a DC insider/establishment type. What many people don't seem to understand is the fact that Trump is parroting the sentiments of many Americans who are sick of the political correctness, the cronyism, the corruption, the lies, the distortions, and the status quo.
For a man who has zero political experience, and very little political savvy, Trump is holding his own amazingly well. The reason why people like Carson and Fiorina appeared on the scene and enjoyed a certain degree of popularity is very similar to the reason for Trump's cutting through 16 opponents like a hot knife through butter.
Pick any parameter or metric, and you would be hard pressed to find a plurality of satisfaction. |
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Location: United States | Yes I think the election will be rigged. BUT I think the bigger question is how will it be prevented and by whom? What kind of people and where from? Who can we ultimately hold accountable to prevent voter fraud? I'm sad America has gone this direction, and this is exactly why "we need to make America great again!" Election fraud shouldn't even be in the back of our minds! I'm not referring to a little hometown precinct and naughty clerk that cast a vote off a dead man. I'm referring to sabatuge. I hope it can be prevented but I'm telling you, bad times are ahead. And no one is "setting" trump up for an excuse to loose. There is no doubt in my mind that man will win if honestly played through. No doubt.
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Location: sunny california | Bear - 2016-08-03 8:04 AM They've felt this way for quite some time now Ms Finney. Trump had nothing to do with this downward trajectory, rather, he is a byproduct of decades of political cronyism and corruption. DC is lousy with it. It didn't have to be Trump. It could have been someone else who is not a DC insider/establishment type. What many people don't seem to understand is the fact that Trump is parroting the sentiments of many Americans who are sick of the political correctness, the cronyism, the corruption, the lies, the distortions, and the status quo. For a man who has zero political experience, and very little political savvy, Trump is holding his own amazingly well. The reason why people like Carson and Fiorina appeared on the scene and enjoyed a certain degree of popularity is very similar to the reason for Trump's cutting through 16 opponents like a hot knife through butter. Pick any parameter or metric, and you would be hard pressed to find a plurality of satisfaction.
ditto, the fact a man like Trump can come in and hand the GOP their a$$ says alot about the Republican party. The GOP has let its own constituency down. or rather laid them off so they got themselves a minimum wage job and a new party to vote for... The crushing of the middle class has landed the Rebublican party without new voters and the old ones are dying off. I believe they are out and we will not see another Rebublican president.
note to big money: you can only greedily take for so long before your practices get legislated out.
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| Vickie - 2016-08-02 6:18 PM They are determined that everyone agrees with them and if things don't go their way it must be a big plot. I don't know how they sleep at night. I hate "make America again" I believe American has been and is still great.
i beg to differ with you jobs are given away we need job when illegalls can fragantly break the law on national tv we have a problem america caters to everyone but americans
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Location: Florida | Falconone1981 - 2016-08-03 9:08 PM Sounds to me like you get it!!! And your right this is the greatest country on earth and not because of either party!!!!
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Location: North Texas | RidenFly - 2016-08-04 9:45 AM
I think anytime we quit working hard at something and just assume that something will always remain great despite the many outside forces wanting to fundamentally change what we have, then we're only as great as we once were.  I get why people don't like Trump. But I also know there would have been a time when Hillary's B.S. would have landed her where she belongs, behind jail. How can you still call this country great when its corrupted to the point that criminals run the show and the media? I respectfully don't understand how anyone can turn a blind eye to that.
In 1787 Ben Franklin (Founding Father) had this conservation:
“Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”
“A Republic, if you can keep it.”
ATTRIBUTION: The response is attributed to BENJAMIN FRANKLIN—at the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation—in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention.
There are other quotes as well, but this one is pertinent to this particular discussion.
Question is: Is America ready to keep Her Republic i.e. Freedom?
I for One am!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | RidenFly - 2016-08-04 9:45 AM
I think anytime we quit working hard at something and just assume that something will always remain great despite the many outside forces wanting to fundamentally change what we have, then we're only as great as we once were.
I get why people don't like Trump. But I also know there would have been a time when Hillary's B.S. would have landed her where she belongs, behind jail. How can you still call this country great when its corrupted to the point that criminals run the show and the media? I respectfully don't understand how anyone can turn a blind eye to that.
I love my country always will, but for all the criminals like Hillary its a better country for them because it lets them get away with murder and all their other crap they do so its a great country for them, but heres Trump wanting to put a stop to all the criminals and corrupting going on and hes the bad guy. All the ones turning that blind eye are just like Hillary a crinimal in their own sense. |
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| foundation horse - 2016-08-05 8:13 AM RidenFly - 2016-08-04 9:45 AM
I think anytime we quit working hard at something and just assume that something will always remain great despite the many outside forces wanting to fundamentally change what we have, then we're only as great as we once were.
I get why people don't like Trump. But I also know there would have been a time when Hillary's B.S. would have landed her where she belongs, behind jail. How can you still call this country great when its corrupted to the point that criminals run the show and the media? I respectfully don't understand how anyone can turn a blind eye to that.
In 1787 Ben Franklin (Founding Father ) had this conservation: “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?” “A Republic, if you can keep it.” ATTRIBUTION: The response is attributed to BENJAMIN FRANKLIN—at the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation—in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention. There are other quotes as well, but this one is pertinent to this particular discussion. Question is: Is America ready to keep Her Republic i.e. Freedom? I for One am!
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Location: North Texas | RidenFly - 2016-08-04 10:52 AM
foundation horse - 2016-08-05 8:13 AM RidenFly - 2016-08-04 9:45 AM
I think anytime we quit working hard at something and just assume that something will always remain great despite the many outside forces wanting to fundamentally change what we have, then we're only as great as we once were.Â
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I get why people don't like Trump. But I also know there would have been a time when Hillary's B.S. would have landed her where she belongs, behind jail. How can you still call this country great when its corrupted to the point that criminals run the show and the media? I respectfully don't understand how anyone can turn a blind eye to that.
In 1787 Ben Franklin (Founding Father ) had this conservation: “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?” “A Republic, if you can keep it.” ATTRIBUTION: The response is attributed to BENJAMIN FRANKLIN—at the close of the Constitutional Convention of 1787, when queried as he left Independence Hall on the final day of deliberation—in the notes of Dr. James McHenry, one of Maryland’s delegates to the Convention. There are other quotes as well, but this one is pertinent to this particular discussion. Question is: Is America ready to keep Her Republic i.e. Freedom? I for One am!
RF, your avatar is much more pertinent to this conservation than you realize! |
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Location: Florida | What crime has Hillary committed? If you are just talking about Bengazi then every person ever in power and every military officer is a criminal. Just because one of your employees is killed by someone doesn't make you a criminal.
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Location: North Texas | Vickie - 2016-08-04 9:03 PM
What crime has Hillary committed? If you are just talking about Bengazi then every person ever in power and every military officer is a criminal. Just because one of your employees is killed by someone doesn't make you a criminal.
The Rose Law Firm in Little Rock Ark. The Whitewater Scandal in Ark. Vince Foster in Washington, D.C. Ron Brown Sec. of Commerce in Europe. And approx. 50 or so other bodies.........................But yet Hillary Rodham Clinton has not committed any crimes?! You are f'in' delusional! As well as being woefully blind to history! |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Vickie - 2016-08-04 9:03 PM
What crime has Hillary committed? If you are just talking about Bengazi then every person ever in power and every military officer is a criminal. Just because one of your employees is killed by someone doesn't make you a criminal.
Is it a crime to lie to the FBI? |
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Location: North Texas | Bear - 2016-08-04 9:58 PM
Vickie - 2016-08-04 9:03 PM
What crime has Hillary committed? If you are just talking about Bengazi then every person ever in power and every military officer is a criminal. Just because one of your employees is killed by someone doesn't make you a criminal.
Is it a crime to lie to the FBI?
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