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Location: TEXAS | tin can - 2016-10-17 5:34 PM Do a little research and look at the mess we were in the banks ford, Chrysler Chevrolet. The stock market is up compared to 2007 he isn't perfect but he did do some things that helped us from being in a worse recession than what we were in, no die hard republican will ever see it so I'm wasting my energy lol.
Have you seen the national debt lately?? Someone refresh my memory....how much has it gone up under Obaama????  |
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| She wont talk about it, nor how to address it. (In reference to the National Debt - its a non issue to her) This election is a game changer! Cant you see it?!
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | We need a re-set.
The bubble is set to burst.
Our Constitution is about to be disassembled and revised.
Our freedoms will be surrendered.
Total tax reform is needed desperately.
Social Security is set to collapse.
Medicare is set to collapse.
Healthcare is an absolute shambles, top to bottom.
Our National Debt is totally out of control.
Corruption is rampant.
Borders don't exist.
Laws mean nothing.
"With Liberty and Justice for all" is a lie, designated to the ash heap of history.
Our trade policies wind up sucking manufacturing and jobs out of the country.
We are protecting countries whose citizens want us destroyed.
We've squandered our respect across the globe, including our allies.
The media can no longer be trusted.
Disrespect for our flag and National Anthem has become popular.
We are giving tens of billions to our enemies.
1 out of 5 families in the USA have not a single member gainfully employed.
We are allowing politicians to promise more freebies, like healthcare and college education.
The only place where you find "American Exceptionalism" with any regularity is in our soldiers, and they end up getting screwed when they get back home.
We are getting closer to electing a president who wants to implement a tax reform that is even more burdensome and set to decimate family farms through legalized confiscatory taxation.
It all makes me very sad, not so much for myself, but because I'm convinced our apathy and complacency will turn America into a corrupt socialist utopia for my kids and grandkids. It's just very very sad.
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Location: Florida | Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM We need a re-set. The bubble is set to burst. Our Constitution is about to be disassembled and revised. Our freedoms will be surrendered. Total tax reform is needed desperately. Social Security is set to collapse. Medicare is set to collapse. Healthcare is an absolute shambles, top to bottom. Our National Debt is totally out of control. Corruption is rampant. Borders don't exist. Laws mean nothing. "With Liberty and Justice for all" is a lie, designated to the ash heap of history. Our trade policies wind up sucking manufacturing and jobs out of the country. We are protecting countries whose citizens want us destroyed. We've squandered our respect across the globe, including our allies. The media can no longer be trusted. Disrespect for our flag and National Anthem has become popular. We are giving tens of billions to our enemies. 1 out of 5 families in the USA have not a single member gainfully employed. We are allowing politicians to promise more freebies, like healthcare and college education. The only place where you find "American Exceptionalism" with any regularity is in our soldiers, and they end up getting screwed when they get back home. We are getting closer to electing a president who wants to implement a tax reform that is even more burdensome and set to decimate family farms through legalized confiscatory taxation. It all makes me very sad, not so much for myself, but because I'm convinced our apathy and complacency will turn America into a corrupt socialist utopia for my kids and grandkids. It's just very very sad.
You must have lots of trouble getting asleep at night. A little optimism would go a long way with that problem. Now that we are not fighting Bush's wars on two fronts we will get out of debt, it will just take time. We will not get out of debt if Trump's tax cuts go through.
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| Bear - 2016-10-18 9:19 AM We need a re-set. The bubble is set to burst. Our Constitution is about to be disassembled and revised. Our freedoms will be surrendered. Total tax reform is needed desperately. Social Security is set to collapse. Medicare is set to collapse. Healthcare is an absolute shambles, top to bottom. Our National Debt is totally out of control. Corruption is rampant. Borders don't exist. Laws mean nothing. "With Liberty and Justice for all" is a lie, designated to the ash heap of history. Our trade policies wind up sucking manufacturing and jobs out of the country. We are protecting countries whose citizens want us destroyed. We've squandered our respect across the globe, including our allies. The media can no longer be trusted. Disrespect for our flag and National Anthem has become popular. We are giving tens of billions to our enemies. 1 out of 5 families in the USA have not a single member gainfully employed. We are allowing politicians to promise more freebies, like healthcare and college education. The only place where you find "American Exceptionalism" with any regularity is in our soldiers, and they end up getting screwed when they get back home. We are getting closer to electing a president who wants to implement a tax reform that is even more burdensome and set to decimate family farms through legalized confiscatory taxation. It all makes me very sad, not so much for myself, but because I'm convinced our apathy and complacency will turn America into a corrupt socialist utopia for my kids and grandkids. It's just very very sad.
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| Vickie - 2016-10-18 9:42 AM . Now that we are not fighting Bush's wars on two fronts we will get out of debt, it will just take time. ......
Now we are fighting ISIS all over the globe. |
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Location: Oklahoma | TXBO - 2016-10-18 9:48 AM
Bear - 2016-10-18 9:19 AM We need a re-set. The bubble is set to burst. Our Constitution is about to be disassembled and revised. Our freedoms will be surrendered. Total tax reform is needed desperately. Social Security is set to collapse. Medicare is set to collapse. Healthcare is an absolute shambles, top to bottom. Our National Debt is totally out of control. Corruption is rampant. Borders don't exist. Laws mean nothing. "With Liberty and Justice for all" is a lie, designated to the ash heap of history. Our trade policies wind up sucking manufacturing and jobs out of the country. We are protecting countries whose citizens want us destroyed. We've squandered our respect across the globe, including our allies. The media can no longer be trusted. Disrespect for our flag and National Anthem has become popular. We are giving tens of billions to our enemies. 1 out of 5 families in the USA have not a single member gainfully employed. We are allowing politicians to promise more freebies, like healthcare and college education. The only place where you find "American Exceptionalism" with any regularity is in our soldiers, and they end up getting screwed when they get back home. We are getting closer to electing a president who wants to implement a tax reform that is even more burdensome and set to decimate family farms through legalized confiscatory taxation. It all makes me very sad, not so much for myself, but because I'm convinced our apathy and complacency will turn America into a corrupt socialist utopia for my kids and grandkids. It's just very very sad.
But you left out how much race relations have improved since Obama took office.
If you want something to REALLY make you sick, watch this. http://dennismichaellynch.com/really-happening-votes/ |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | TXBO - 2016-10-18 9:51 AM Vickie - 2016-10-18 9:42 AM . Now that we are not fighting Bush's wars on two fronts we will get out of debt, it will just take time. ......
Now we are fighting ISIS all over the globe.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | And once our borders are open up, there will be more then ISIS to worry about. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Vickie - 2016-10-18 9:42 AM
Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM We need a re-set. The bubble is set to burst. Our Constitution is about to be disassembled and revised. Our freedoms will be surrendered. Total tax reform is needed desperately. Social Security is set to collapse. Medicare is set to collapse. Healthcare is an absolute shambles, top to bottom. Our National Debt is totally out of control. Corruption is rampant. Borders don't exist. Laws mean nothing. "With Liberty and Justice for all" is a lie, designated to the ash heap of history. Our trade policies wind up sucking manufacturing and jobs out of the country. We are protecting countries whose citizens want us destroyed. We've squandered our respect across the globe, including our allies. The media can no longer be trusted. Disrespect for our flag and National Anthem has become popular. We are giving tens of billions to our enemies. 1 out of 5 families in the USA have not a single member gainfully employed. We are allowing politicians to promise more freebies, like healthcare and college education. The only place where you find "American Exceptionalism" with any regularity is in our soldiers, and they end up getting screwed when they get back home. We are getting closer to electing a president who wants to implement a tax reform that is even more burdensome and set to decimate family farms through legalized confiscatory taxation. It all makes me very sad, not so much for myself, but because I'm convinced our apathy and complacency will turn America into a corrupt socialist utopia for my kids and grandkids. It's just very very sad.
You must have lots of trouble getting asleep at night. A little optimism would go a long way with that problem. Now that we are not fighting Bush's wars on two fronts we will get out of debt, it will just take time. We will not get out of debt if Trump's tax cuts go through.
You know what Vickie? That is one of the more correct statements I've ever seen you make. Yes, as a matter of fact, I do have trouble getting to sleep at night, and I wish more people shared my same concerns. What I find conspicuous is that you didn't dispute a single remark I made in that post. All you did was come up with the same tired rhetoric that everything is Bush's fault. The truth of the matter is that, right or wrong, both of those wars entirely bi-partisan. Democrats who had access to the same information enthusiastically supported both wars......including Hillary.
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| dianeguinn - 2016-10-18 9:53 AM TXBO - 2016-10-18 9:48 AM Bear - 2016-10-18 9:19 AM We need a re-set. The bubble is set to burst. Our Constitution is about to be disassembled and revised. Our freedoms will be surrendered. Total tax reform is needed desperately. Social Security is set to collapse. Medicare is set to collapse. Healthcare is an absolute shambles, top to bottom. Our National Debt is totally out of control. Corruption is rampant. Borders don't exist. Laws mean nothing. "With Liberty and Justice for all" is a lie, designated to the ash heap of history. Our trade policies wind up sucking manufacturing and jobs out of the country. We are protecting countries whose citizens want us destroyed. We've squandered our respect across the globe, including our allies. The media can no longer be trusted. Disrespect for our flag and National Anthem has become popular. We are giving tens of billions to our enemies. 1 out of 5 families in the USA have not a single member gainfully employed. We are allowing politicians to promise more freebies, like healthcare and college education. The only place where you find "American Exceptionalism" with any regularity is in our soldiers, and they end up getting screwed when they get back home. We are getting closer to electing a president who wants to implement a tax reform that is even more burdensome and set to decimate family farms through legalized confiscatory taxation. It all makes me very sad, not so much for myself, but because I'm convinced our apathy and complacency will turn America into a corrupt socialist utopia for my kids and grandkids. It's just very very sad.
But you left out how much race relations have improved since Obama took office. If you want something to REALLY make you sick, watch this. http://dennismichaellynch.com/really-happening-votes/
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bear - 2016-10-18 10:09 AM Vickie - 2016-10-18 9:42 AM Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM We need a re-set. The bubble is set to burst. Our Constitution is about to be disassembled and revised. Our freedoms will be surrendered. Total tax reform is needed desperately. Social Security is set to collapse. Medicare is set to collapse. Healthcare is an absolute shambles, top to bottom. Our National Debt is totally out of control. Corruption is rampant. Borders don't exist. Laws mean nothing. "With Liberty and Justice for all" is a lie, designated to the ash heap of history. Our trade policies wind up sucking manufacturing and jobs out of the country. We are protecting countries whose citizens want us destroyed. We've squandered our respect across the globe, including our allies. The media can no longer be trusted. Disrespect for our flag and National Anthem has become popular. We are giving tens of billions to our enemies. 1 out of 5 families in the USA have not a single member gainfully employed. We are allowing politicians to promise more freebies, like healthcare and college education. The only place where you find "American Exceptionalism" with any regularity is in our soldiers, and they end up getting screwed when they get back home. We are getting closer to electing a president who wants to implement a tax reform that is even more burdensome and set to decimate family farms through legalized confiscatory taxation. It all makes me very sad, not so much for myself, but because I'm convinced our apathy and complacency will turn America into a corrupt socialist utopia for my kids and grandkids. It's just very very sad. You must have lots of trouble getting asleep at night. A little optimism would go a long way with that problem. Now that we are not fighting Bush's wars on two fronts we will get out of debt, it will just take time. We will not get out of debt if Trump's tax cuts go through.
You know what Vickie? That is one of the more correct statements I've ever seen you make. Yes, as a matter of fact, I do have trouble getting to sleep at night, and I wish more people shared my same concerns. What I find conspicuous is that you didn't dispute a single remark I made in that post. All you did was come up with the same tired rhetoric that everything is Bush's fault. The truth of the matter is that, right or wrong, both of those wars entirely bi-partisan. Democrats who had access to the same information enthusiastically supported both wars......including Hillary. So.....where was I wrong in that post?
Bear is not the only one that has trouble sleeping, this mess has most normal people worry sick over this if Hillary does get in. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Has anyone else seen the latest forecast for the deficit? Vickie says "it will take time". Yeah, right. Lot's of time.....like infinity. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | It's not just one person or a few people who are to blame. The system is failing top to bottom. The lying, corruption, greed, self-preservation, apathy, and passivity is rampant, not just within our government, but throughout society. |
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| Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM
It's not just one person or a few people who are to blame. The system is failing top to bottom. The lying, corruption, greed, self-preservation, apathy, and passivity is rampant, not just within our government, but throughout society.
You are not alone Bear, I agree with you wholeheartedly. |
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Location: Not Where I Want to Be | TXBO - 2016-10-18 10:51 AM Vickie - 2016-10-18 9:42 AM . Now that we are not fighting Bush's wars on two fronts we will get out of debt, it will just take time. ......
Now we are fighting ISIS all over the globe.
When you don't have a foreign policy that matches your best interests or the best interests of your allies this is what you get.
Remember the whole "No blood for oil" well sure blood for oil. That makes sense. Blood for establishment of a pro-western democracy is what's stupid. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Reester - 2016-10-18 10:30 AM Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM It's not just one person or a few people who are to blame. The system is failing top to bottom. The lying, corruption, greed, self-preservation, apathy, and passivity is rampant, not just within our government, but throughout society. You are not alone Bear, I agree with you wholeheartedly.
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Location: Kansas | Dearborn, Michigan is 50% Muslim now. They come first to Canada then across the border to our cities. This morning I saw a picture of a billboard mocking Trump in Arabic from the Muslim citizens of Dearborn. The architecture of their buildings, as far as what I've seen, is Arabic. They want Sharia law. If anyone finds this disturbing now, just wait until Hillary welcomes tens of thousands of Syrian refugees into the U.S. They do not assimilate.
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| I would say that the democrats have set the blacks back about 100 years. Wasn't the civil rights movement meant to have schools with basically equal populations of blacks and whites? Today all of our elementary schools in this area are "neighborhood" schools with populations from the surrounding neighborhood. This means that if the area is populated by blacks the school population is black. This results in low performing schools. Exactly, what the democrats want. How can you control a group of people better than those on government assistance. Just my personal opinion, but I prefer not to support folks who have no desire to work. |
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| Vickie - 2016-10-18 9:42 AM
Bear - 2016-10-18 10:19 AM We need a re-set. The bubble is set to burst. Our Constitution is about to be disassembled and revised. Our freedoms will be surrendered. Total tax reform is needed desperately. Social Security is set to collapse. Medicare is set to collapse. Healthcare is an absolute shambles, top to bottom. Our National Debt is totally out of control. Corruption is rampant. Borders don't exist. Laws mean nothing. "With Liberty and Justice for all" is a lie, designated to the ash heap of history. Our trade policies wind up sucking manufacturing and jobs out of the country. We are protecting countries whose citizens want us destroyed. We've squandered our respect across the globe, including our allies. The media can no longer be trusted. Disrespect for our flag and National Anthem has become popular. We are giving tens of billions to our enemies. 1 out of 5 families in the USA have not a single member gainfully employed. We are allowing politicians to promise more freebies, like healthcare and college education. The only place where you find "American Exceptionalism" with any regularity is in our soldiers, and they end up getting screwed when they get back home. We are getting closer to electing a president who wants to implement a tax reform that is even more burdensome and set to decimate family farms through legalized confiscatory taxation. It all makes me very sad, not so much for myself, but because I'm convinced our apathy and complacency will turn America into a corrupt socialist utopia for my kids and grandkids. It's just very very sad.
You must have lots of trouble getting asleep at night. A little optimism would go a long way with that problem. Now that we are not fighting Bush's wars on two fronts we will get out of debt, it will just take time. We will not get out of debt if Trump's tax cuts go through.
Actually, I think that Bear used to be, in years past, more optimistic about the country than he is currently.
It's been 8 years since Bush was in office. How long until you give Obama credit for the current situation? I think that digging into history might do you some good.
The government has changed how they calculate the cost of living increases and inflation as well as the unemployment rate. This is to hide the true state of the economy. Just look at the cost of groceries - I think that has really shot up the last 5 years. |
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