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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Mighty Broke - 2016-10-20 1:25 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-20 2:22 PM ridejg - 2016-10-19 10:29 PM Southtxponygirl - 2016-10-19 10:00 PM Did'nt watch are not watching if its still on, I just cant stomach her any more, I'm wishing to many bad things her way so thought I better not watch her lying face..  
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | Reester - 2016-10-20 2:28 PM The massive amounts of new registered voters are NOT coming out for Hillary.
in indiana they have not said who the new registered voters are voting for..... just that the governing body is not helping in the investagation they are pointing fingers at gov. pence.
Dont you think the national oversight agency would want to get to the bottom and do everything they could to help along the investagation in a quick manner with the election comming up?
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Location: North Texas | luluwhit - 2016-10-20 1:34 PM
Reester - 2016-10-20 2:28 PM The massive amounts of new registered voters are NOT coming out for Hillary.
in indiana they have not said who the new registered voters are voting for..... just that the governing body is not helping in the investagation they are pointing fingers at gov. pence.Â
Dont you think the national oversight agency would want to get to the bottom and do everything they could to help along the investagation in a quick manner with the election comming up?
 http://www.tristatehomepage.com/news/local-news/indiana-state-police-releases-full-statement-on-possible-voter-fraud
The lack of desire and the pointing of fingers so to speak indicates (to those with critical thinking skills) that something is majorly out of whack! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | foundation horse - 2016-10-20 12:34 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-20 11:59 AM TXBO - 2016-10-20 11:52 AM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country? how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes? This is the classic illustration of 'trickle down' economics that The Left claims does not work. I beg to differ due to The Reagan Era 'trickle down' economics results. Anytime anyone makes more spendable money it moves! Which is why it is called 'currency'!
And big business has the money because they aren't taxed too death, jobs are created and more people contribute into the tax base. More jobs...people leave the welfare and food stamp rolls. More money is spent and more user tax is collected and it's a win, win for everyone.
If Hillary gets in, I would expect big money to take their money and business and go somewhere else. It's pretty much a no brainer.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | slacy09 - 2016-10-20 12:24 PM jd&ez - 2016-10-20 9:46 AM Hillary kicked his racist, bigoted arse once again. I'm sure he is glad he doesn't have to do another debate.
The GOP had the perfect chance to take the White House this election but instead they nominated this totally inept piece of crap.
Well, he is the face of the alt-right which has taken over the GOP. I understand a reasonable republican being appalled by that face but they didn't step up and stop the takeover.
The GOP nominated the one person that can't beat Clinton. And the irony is, even if he had won he is a democrat politically. You want to talk abortions? Trump has always been in favor of abortions. He only says he's not now because he is the GOP nominee.
Once this is over he will go back to his original position.
The Trump supporters have been played. You want to talk about inept??? How about the fact that she announced on national television US response time for nuclear launch?? Are you kidding me?? Talk about unfit to be president!! 
Not "new" news there.....this same response time was printed in an article by Jeffrey Lewis back in August of 2016...... And it is really naive to think that our enemies don't already know that fact.....LOL |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Nevertooold - 2016-10-20 1:43 PM foundation horse - 2016-10-20 12:34 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-20 11:59 AM TXBO - 2016-10-20 11:52 AM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country? how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes? This is the classic illustration of 'trickle down' economics that The Left claims does not work. I beg to differ due to The Reagan Era 'trickle down' economics results. Anytime anyone makes more spendable money it moves! Which is why it is called 'currency'!
If Hillary gets in, I would expect big money to take their money and business and go somewhere else. It's pretty much a no brainer.
That's what people don't get about the tax laws too. Yes, they are overly complicated and need an overhaul, BUT... They are written to encourage money to be invested into the economy. And you see temporary tax laws put in place a lot of years to help direct capital investments where they will do the most good in the current situation, like Section 179. |
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Location: Kansas | SouthTxPonyGirl..............Thanks for that.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2016-10-20 2:35 PM SouthTxPonyGirl..............Thanks for that. 
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| Mighty Broke - 2016-10-20 10:56 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 1:50 PM engravedinvitation - 2016-10-20 1:04 PM On the issue of health care premium costs, you can complain about Obamacare or the ACA all you want to, but it has helped a lot of folks get insurance and health care. If you want to point fingers at someone about the cost of it, point to your health insurance provider and probably to a greater degree, the pharmaceutical companies. When was the last time one of them posted a loss? When a pill cost $5, 5 years ago, but now costs $15, that is the pharmaceutical company. From cancer drugs to epi pens, big pharma is primarily to blame. Bull - it gives more to people who choose not to work - it has hurt many people with the high deductibles and increase in premiums. Insurance companies are opting out of providing insurance in the nobama exchange because they are loosing millions. Why does an insurance business have to post a loss? My opinion is - if you are in business you want to make money, not loose.
Blame who you want, but the end goal is one payor insurance. And, many medical providers (I hate that term) will quit providing care because they can't afford to practice under that system, or take cash only.
This above right here. And - I want someone to ask the question of why Americans are FORCED to pay for Obamacare - you don't pay for insurance one way or the other - you get penalized on your taxes. Plain and simple, Obamacare is a tax. Period. It's great if you want it and can find an affordable option but you should not be required to pay for it. The reason - it's not sustainable if everyone does not buy in, in some form or another. I want someone to pose that question to the "lady" in the pantsuit. |
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| brlraceaddict - 2016-10-20 2:47 PM
Mighty Broke - 2016-10-20 10:56 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 1:50 PM engravedinvitation - 2016-10-20 1:04 PM On the issue of health care premium costs, you can complain about Obamacare or the ACA all you want to, but it has helped a lot of folks get insurance and health care. If you want to point fingers at someone about the cost of it, point to your health insurance provider and probably to a greater degree, the pharmaceutical companies. When was the last time one of them posted a loss? When a pill cost $5, 5 years ago, but now costs $15, that is the pharmaceutical company. From cancer drugs to epi pens, big pharma is primarily to blame. Bull - it gives more to people who choose not to work - it has hurt many people with the high deductibles and increase in premiums. Insurance companies are opting out of providing insurance in the nobama exchange because they are loosing millions.  Why does an insurance  business have to post a loss? My opinion is - if you are in business you want to make money, not loose.Â
Blame who you want, but the end goal is one payor insurance. And, many medical providers (I hate that term) will quit providing care because they can't afford to practice under that system, or take cash only.Â
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And more on Obamacare....
Just got an email that says that many companies, including Aetna, with whom I have my own insurance, is opting OUT of Obamacare. Which means anyone one with such a company who now gets a subsidy, will NOT get that subsidy next year if they keep their insurance. I did NOT go through Obamacare so I will keep mine. Unfortunately we all can expect a 20-40% increase in premiums, so the affordable care act has been anything but. |
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TXBO - 2016-10-20 11:52 AM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country?  how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
 Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes?
Show me ONE government program run effectively and economically. Remember the $500 wrench or toilet seat or whatever the ridiculous amount for everyday items the government paid for? The only economy your plan helps is to line the pockets of politicians and their cronies and special interest groups. Free college for Heaven's sake??!! Like Big Brother is doing such a jam up job with K thru 12 education.....Common Core? What happened to common sense where 2+2 actually equals 4?
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Frodo - 2016-10-20 2:35 PM SouthTxPonyGirl..............Thanks for that.
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| Mighty Broke - 2016-10-20 12:04 PM TXBO - 2016-10-20 12:52 PM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country? how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes?
Might, I don't think there are many Americans with any economic sense at all. Three 4 Luck mentioned several ways that money not sent to the government could flow through the economy and there are more.
We have the highest corporate tax rate the world. Jobs and cash will not flow back into the country until that changes. If it did, significantly, it could be glorious. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rodeoveteran - 2016-10-20 3:11 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-20 11:59 AM TXBO - 2016-10-20 11:52 AM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country? how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes? Show me ONE government program run effectively and economically. Remember the $500 wrench or toilet seat or whatever the ridiculous amount for everyday items the government paid for? The only economy your plan helps is to line the pockets of politicians and their cronies and special interest groups. Free college for Heaven's sake??!! Like Big Brother is doing such a jam up job with K thru 12 education.....Common Core? What happened to common sense where 2+2 actually equals 4?
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Location: OH. IO | She never once wore the American flag pin during the debates.................she's discusting |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-20 1:55 PM That's what people don't get about the tax laws too. Yes, they are overly complicated and need an overhaul, BUT... They are written to encourage money to be invested into the economy. And you see temporary tax laws put in place a lot of years to help direct capital investments where they will do the most good in the current situation, like Section 179. Section 179 is a great example of why the tax code needs to be scrapped in favor of a flate tax or consumption tax. The current progressive tax code is manipulated by those with discresionary income and it produces a result that truly burdens the middle class with little to no discretionary income. I know. I used sec. 179, I use off shore accounts and every other legal means of tax avoidance.
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Location: Ky | rodeoveteran - 2016-10-20 3:11 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-20 11:59 AM TXBO - 2016-10-20 11:52 AM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country? how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes? Show me ONE government program run effectively and economically. Remember the $500 wrench or toilet seat or whatever the ridiculous amount for everyday items the government paid for? The only economy your plan helps is to line the pockets of politicians and their cronies and special interest groups. Free college for Heaven's sake??!! Like Big Brother is doing such a jam up job with K thru 12 education.....Common Core? What happened to common sense where 2+2 actually equals 4?
There's many, but you asked for one. The post office is one. No company can deliver to every US address 6 days a week for 47 cents a letter.
I'll give you another even though you asked for one. Medicare. The MMA of 2003 was W's parting gift to the insurance companies. It's what started the Part D gram and brought back to life Part C which is now called Medicare Advantage.
Part C and D was the beginning of privatizing Medicare. The bill of goods that W signed off on was that private companies could do a better job of providing Medicare than could the government.
It was fully implemented in 2006. Here we are 10 years later and MA costs the taxpayers 15% more than original Medicare. So much for the companies being more efficient.
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| jd&ez - 2016-10-20 4:06 PM rodeoveteran - 2016-10-20 3:11 PM Three 4 Luck - 2016-10-20 11:59 AM TXBO - 2016-10-20 11:52 AM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country? how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes? Show me ONE government program run effectively and economically. Remember the $500 wrench or toilet seat or whatever the ridiculous amount for everyday items the government paid for? The only economy your plan helps is to line the pockets of politicians and their cronies and special interest groups. Free college for Heaven's sake??!! Like Big Brother is doing such a jam up job with K thru 12 education.....Common Core? What happened to common sense where 2+2 actually equals 4?
I'll give you another even though you asked for one. Medicare. The MMA of 2003 was W's parting gift to the insurance companies. It's what started the Part D gram and brought back to life Part C which is now called Medicare Advantage.
Part C and D was the beginning of privatizing Medicare. The bill of goods that W signed off on was that private companies could do a better job of providing Medicare than could the government.
It was fully implemented in 2006. Here we are 10 years later and MA costs the taxpayers 15% more than original Medicare. So much for the companies being more efficient.
Those sound bites play well on TV. Even when they are not grounded in reality.
You can't be serious. The US Postal Service lost $2 Billion in the second quarter alone.
And Medicare? Really? It's fubar and impossible to get accurate numbers. |
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Location: Ky | TXBO - 2016-10-20 3:40 PM Mighty Broke - 2016-10-20 12:04 PM TXBO - 2016-10-20 12:52 PM lhighquality - 2016-10-20 11:46 AM 3canstorun - 2016-10-20 10:18 AM luluwhit - 2016-10-20 11:01 AM ndcowgirl - 2016-10-20 10:30 AM I watched the debate. I was wondering why they considered Medicare and Social Security entitlement when a person pays into the programs their entire working life. the entitlement comes in when those benefits are given to individuals who have never paid into the system.
did i hear them correctly that we are now supporting 60%of individuals in this country? how is it possible for 40% of us to pay for 60%?
Yes, I have looked at my paycheck & it makes me sick all the money that comes out!!!!!!!!!!! How many good paying jobs do you think could be created in America if companies didn't have to give 40% of earning to the government in taxes?
We have the highest corporate tax rate the world. Jobs and cash will not flow back into the country until that changes. If it did, significantly, it could be glorious.
Trickle down didn't work with Reagan and it won't work now. It did for foreign countries if that's what you mean by working. Reagan incentivized companies to move manufacturing out of this country.
Then he put in the TRA of 1986 which was the largest tax increase in history at the time.
Reagan ran against Carter's national debt but then by the time he left office he had presided over more debt than every president combined from George Washington thru Jimmy Carter.
Daddy Bush just continued that even though he called Reagan's economic policies, "voodoo economics". Then he had a bigger tax increase than the TRA of 1986. But he told us it was coming, remember his "know new taxes" speech. The right tried to say it was "no new taxes" but he showed us it was "know".
Then Clinton came in a balanced the budget and even left a surplus for W. We all know what happened after that. Including a war on a lie.
Obama has done a remarkable job considering where this country was when he took over. I wish he had done more and some things differently but we are in far better shape than we were 8 years ago.
Will Hillary be as good a president as Bill? Doubtful. But I believe she will be a good president.
I know Trump would not be. As bad as Reagan and the Bush family was this country Trump would be far worse. |
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