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Location: Bastrop, Texas | 1DSoon - 2018-10-10 11:02 AM
Suerue2018 - 2018-10-10 11:06 AM I don't benefit anything from sharing truth. My children are well and healthy, I share to help other parents. The truth is there for those that want it. Others will remain sheep. Here's facts below for those wanting to expand their research. The following are NOT opinions, but actual verifiable facts. Research any of it if you have doubts or just want to expand your knowledge. 1) Combined doses of Vaccines have NEVER been tested for safety. The vaccines given to babies have never been tested on babies, or even children. 2) Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal immunity from being sued when their products inflict damage. 3) DNA from aborted fetuses are used in several vaccines used today. 4) the CDC has been caught destroying and hiding evidence on more than one occasion because it would negatively impact the consumers stance on vaccinations. 5) outbreaks occur in populations that are up to 90-99% vaccinated, AND most, if not all of those diagnosed with the disease have already been vaccinated against it. (If herd immunity is real, how is this even possible?) 6) more people die from the MMR vaccine itself than die of the measles. If you're weighing risks here, it's riskier to get the vaccine than not to. This is also the case with other vaccines, such as the flu shot and the HPV vaccine. The risks outweigh the benefits. 7) Peanut allergies were almost unheard of prior to the use of peanut oil in vaccines. Since the introduction of vaccines containing peanut oil, the number of people being diagnosed with a peanut allergy has risen exponentially. In addition, vaccinated children have much higher rates of allergies (of any kind) than those who are not. ?? multiple independent studies have shown that 11% of vaccinated children are diagnosed with asthma as compared to only 1% in unvaccinated children. 9) full vaccine package inserts are 10's of pages long, not just the 1-2 page you are given at the doctors office. 10) listed in vaccine package inserts as possible reactions or side effects are allergies, asthma, autism, swelling of the brain, and even SIDS. Right on the package! Not only are these possible side effects, but it's proof that vaccines can cause all of these conditions and more. They wouldn't be listed if they weren't connected. 11) many doctors receive incentives or bonuses when a certain percentage of their patients are vaccinated, begging the questions "if vaccines work so well, why do they have to push them so hard," and "if my doctor is essentially getting paid to give me shots, how do I know his intentions aren't just self serving?" 12) the CDC and vaccine manufacturers conduct many of their own studies of their products and conduct their own investigations of themselves, which is like saying "I have investigated and studied myself, and come to the conclusion that I am not guilty of any wrong doing." 13) an overwhelming majority of doctors have never even bothered to read the full vaccine package inserts they receive from the vaccine manufacturers that lists all the ingredients and possible side effects 14) Prior to the introduction of vaccines, SIDS was so rare that it wasn't even mentioned in infant mortality statistics. (Meaning less than 1% of infant deaths were due to an unknown cause) Only after most infants in the US received several doses of DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, and measles vaccines, there was an alarming epidemic of unexplained infant death. SIDS is the number one cause of death in infants in the US ages 28 days to 1 year. Most cases of SIDS occurs within two weeks of vaccination, usually within just days or even hours. The USA has both the highest rate of infant mortality of any other industrialized country, and also the most vaccines given to children. 15) diseases have been renamed after the introduction of a vaccine. What would have once been diagnosed as polio is now being diagnosed as many different diseases, all having the same symptoms once attributed to sufferers of polio. Only difference, it was only called polio prior to the introduction of the vaccine, and now is diagnosed as such diseases as viral or “aseptic” meningitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), spinal meningitis, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, post-polio syndrome, and acute flaccid paralysis(AFP), just to name a few. 16) the anti-vaccine movement isn't new, and wasn't born from Jenny McCarthy. It began soon after vaccines were introduced and outbreaks in recently vaccinated populations raised questions as to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. 17) live virus vaccines shed the virus for up to 6 weeks after vaccination, thus have the potential to infect and spread disease to others even if the person vaccinated displays no symptoms. In fact, it's recommended that recently vaccinated individuals of live vaccines avoid public places, newborns, and anyone with a compromised immune system, yet we allow them in schools, but discriminate against the healthy, unvaccinated kids who aren't even carrying these diseases. 18) giving Tylenol right before or after a vaccination increases the risk of adverse reactions. Many children experience fever, redness, and generally may not feel well for a day or two following vaccines, and yet parents give them medicine to make them more comfortable, unknowingly increasing the risk of damaging their child's health. Please research as much as you can, your child's life could depend on it, especially if they have a MTHFR Gene mutation. by: Cathy Hall
 Hey Capn C&Phttps://www.facebook.com/groups/arnica/permalink/10157081367706789/ word for word what you just posted. Not was anyone would consider a credible source. Â
Dang 1DSoon! You busted her, but everyone knows this is what they do. They C&P and don’t have a clue.....but that’s what they mean when they say, “do your research”. This is her “research”.....Facebook.
Next will come a barrage from junk science sites like “Natural News”.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | TXBarrelRacer84 - 2018-10-10 11:33 AM
Bear - 2018-10-09 4:48 PM I’m guessing it has to do with the “MTHFR gene”. Can you ask your friend?
Yes she said that's what it is.Â
Ok well rather than try to explain this in an understandable way, I’ll give you this excellent reference. It covers everything you want to know about the “MTHFR gene”.
Bottom line to me is this. You can have expensive genetic testing done, or take a more sensible route by checking a homocysteine level.
https://www.skepticalraptor.com/skepticalraptorblog.php/mthfr-gene-v... | |
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1DSoon - 2018-10-10 11:02 AM
Suerue2018 - 2018-10-10 11:06 AM I don't benefit anything from sharing truth. My children are well and healthy, I share to help other parents. The truth is there for those that want it. Others will remain sheep. Here's facts below for those wanting to expand their research. The following are NOT opinions, but actual verifiable facts. Research any of it if you have doubts or just want to expand your knowledge. 1) Combined doses of Vaccines have NEVER been tested for safety. The vaccines given to babies have never been tested on babies, or even children. 2) Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal immunity from being sued when their products inflict damage. 3) DNA from aborted fetuses are used in several vaccines used today. 4) the CDC has been caught destroying and hiding evidence on more than one occasion because it would negatively impact the consumers stance on vaccinations. 5) outbreaks occur in populations that are up to 90-99% vaccinated, AND most, if not all of those diagnosed with the disease have already been vaccinated against it. (If herd immunity is real, how is this even possible?) 6) more people die from the MMR vaccine itself than die of the measles. If you're weighing risks here, it's riskier to get the vaccine than not to. This is also the case with other vaccines, such as the flu shot and the HPV vaccine. The risks outweigh the benefits. 7) Peanut allergies were almost unheard of prior to the use of peanut oil in vaccines. Since the introduction of vaccines containing peanut oil, the number of people being diagnosed with a peanut allergy has risen exponentially. In addition, vaccinated children have much higher rates of allergies (of any kind) than those who are not. ?? multiple independent studies have shown that 11% of vaccinated children are diagnosed with asthma as compared to only 1% in unvaccinated children. 9) full vaccine package inserts are 10's of pages long, not just the 1-2 page you are given at the doctors office. 10) listed in vaccine package inserts as possible reactions or side effects are allergies, asthma, autism, swelling of the brain, and even SIDS. Right on the package! Not only are these possible side effects, but it's proof that vaccines can cause all of these conditions and more. They wouldn't be listed if they weren't connected. 11) many doctors receive incentives or bonuses when a certain percentage of their patients are vaccinated, begging the questions "if vaccines work so well, why do they have to push them so hard," and "if my doctor is essentially getting paid to give me shots, how do I know his intentions aren't just self serving?" 12) the CDC and vaccine manufacturers conduct many of their own studies of their products and conduct their own investigations of themselves, which is like saying "I have investigated and studied myself, and come to the conclusion that I am not guilty of any wrong doing." 13) an overwhelming majority of doctors have never even bothered to read the full vaccine package inserts they receive from the vaccine manufacturers that lists all the ingredients and possible side effects 14) Prior to the introduction of vaccines, SIDS was so rare that it wasn't even mentioned in infant mortality statistics. (Meaning less than 1% of infant deaths were due to an unknown cause) Only after most infants in the US received several doses of DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, and measles vaccines, there was an alarming epidemic of unexplained infant death. SIDS is the number one cause of death in infants in the US ages 28 days to 1 year. Most cases of SIDS occurs within two weeks of vaccination, usually within just days or even hours. The USA has both the highest rate of infant mortality of any other industrialized country, and also the most vaccines given to children. 15) diseases have been renamed after the introduction of a vaccine. What would have once been diagnosed as polio is now being diagnosed as many different diseases, all having the same symptoms once attributed to sufferers of polio. Only difference, it was only called polio prior to the introduction of the vaccine, and now is diagnosed as such diseases as viral or “aseptic” meningitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), spinal meningitis, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, post-polio syndrome, and acute flaccid paralysis(AFP), just to name a few. 16) the anti-vaccine movement isn't new, and wasn't born from Jenny McCarthy. It began soon after vaccines were introduced and outbreaks in recently vaccinated populations raised questions as to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. 17) live virus vaccines shed the virus for up to 6 weeks after vaccination, thus have the potential to infect and spread disease to others even if the person vaccinated displays no symptoms. In fact, it's recommended that recently vaccinated individuals of live vaccines avoid public places, newborns, and anyone with a compromised immune system, yet we allow them in schools, but discriminate against the healthy, unvaccinated kids who aren't even carrying these diseases. 18) giving Tylenol right before or after a vaccination increases the risk of adverse reactions. Many children experience fever, redness, and generally may not feel well for a day or two following vaccines, and yet parents give them medicine to make them more comfortable, unknowingly increasing the risk of damaging their child's health. Please research as much as you can, your child's life could depend on it, especially if they have a MTHFR Gene mutation. by: Cathy Hall
 Hey Capn C&Phttps://www.facebook.com/groups/arnica/permalink/10157081367706789/ word for word what you just posted. Not was anyone would consider a credible source. Â
Dang 1DSoon! You busted her, but everyone knows this is what they do. They C&P and don’t have a clue.....but that’s what they mean when they say, “do your research”. This is her “research”.....Facebook.
Next will come a barrage from junk science sites like “Natural News”.
Mark my word.
You're both trying super hard to offend me, instead of researching the facts that were listed. I didn't post it for people like you, but if someone wants to look into it further then there's the facts. Have a blessed day! | |
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What I post is factual and verifiable with sound science.
What you post is dangerous.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | There is a measles epidemic happening right now in Europe. It has already infected over 41,000 children, and killed 37. There is every reason to believe that these numbers will only grow.
The worst part? It is entirely preventable. Every single sick child. Every single death. Step one is to vaccinate. Step two is to combat the deadly antivaxxers every chance you get. | |
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| Bear - 2018-10-10 11:29 AM TyE - 2018-10-10 11:07 AM Bear,
Have you read the entire vaccine insert for every vaccine given in todays age?
Just answer her question on that one please. I really want to hear your opinion on that and what the insert says. I am on the fence about vaccines...... so truly interested.
thank you. That’s a very reasonable question, and here’s my answer: No. Nobody reads package inserts of every vaccine and medication as a matter of routine. That’s just a fact.
I am "assuming" your question is a rhetorical one. I VERY rarely take any type of medication. I try to avoid them especially after all the money I spent on the above mentioned episode and having to have my esophagus stretched.
Thank you again for your honesty!
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Location: my piece of paradise | Suerue2018 - 2018-10-10 11:06 AM
I don't benefit anything from sharing truth. My children are well and healthy, I share to help other parents. The truth is there for those that want it. Others will remain sheep. Here's facts below for those wanting to expand their research.
The following are NOT opinions, but actual verifiable facts. Research any of it if you have doubts or just want to expand your knowledge.
1) Combined doses of Vaccines have NEVER been tested for safety. The vaccines given to babies have never been tested on babies, or even children.
2) Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal immunity from being sued when their products inflict damage.
3) DNA from aborted fetuses are used in several vaccines used today.
4) the CDC has been caught destroying and hiding evidence on more than one occasion because it would negatively impact the consumers stance on vaccinations.
5) outbreaks occur in populations that are up to 90-99% vaccinated, AND most, if not all of those diagnosed with the disease have already been vaccinated against it. (If herd immunity is real, how is this even possible?)
6) more people die from the MMR vaccine itself than die of the measles. If you're weighing risks here, it's riskier to get the vaccine than not to. This is also the case with other vaccines, such as the flu shot and the HPV vaccine. The risks outweigh the benefits.
7) Peanut allergies were almost unheard of prior to the use of peanut oil in vaccines. Since the introduction of vaccines containing peanut oil, the number of people being diagnosed with a peanut allergy has risen exponentially. In addition, vaccinated children have much higher rates of allergies (of any kind) than those who are not.
?? multiple independent studies have shown that 11% of vaccinated children are diagnosed with asthma as compared to only 1% in unvaccinated children.
9) full vaccine package inserts are 10's of pages long, not just the 1-2 page you are given at the doctors office.
10) listed in vaccine package inserts as possible reactions or side effects are allergies, asthma, autism, swelling of the brain, and even SIDS. Right on the package! Not only are these possible side effects, but it's proof that vaccines can cause all of these conditions and more. They wouldn't be listed if they weren't connected.
11) many doctors receive incentives or bonuses when a certain percentage of their patients are vaccinated, begging the questions "if vaccines work so well, why do they have to push them so hard," and "if my doctor is essentially getting paid to give me shots, how do I know his intentions aren't just self serving?"
12) the CDC and vaccine manufacturers conduct many of their own studies of their products and conduct their own investigations of themselves, which is like saying "I have investigated and studied myself, and come to the conclusion that I am not guilty of any wrong doing."
13) an overwhelming majority of doctors have never even bothered to read the full vaccine package inserts they receive from the vaccine manufacturers that lists all the ingredients and possible side effects
14) Prior to the introduction of vaccines, SIDS was so rare that it wasn't even mentioned in infant mortality statistics. (Meaning less than 1% of infant deaths were due to an unknown cause) Only after most infants in the US received several doses of DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, and measles vaccines, there was an alarming epidemic of unexplained infant death. SIDS is the number one cause of death in infants in the US ages 28 days to 1 year. Most cases of SIDS occurs within two weeks of vaccination, usually within just days or even hours. The USA has both the highest rate of infant mortality of any other industrialized country, and also the most vaccines given to children.
15) diseases have been renamed after the introduction of a vaccine. What would have once been diagnosed as polio is now being diagnosed as many different diseases, all having the same symptoms once attributed to sufferers of polio. Only difference, it was only called polio prior to the introduction of the vaccine, and now is diagnosed as such diseases as viral or “aseptic” meningitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), spinal meningitis, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, post-polio syndrome, and acute flaccid paralysis(AFP), just to name a few.
16) the anti-vaccine movement isn't new, and wasn't born from Jenny McCarthy. It began soon after vaccines were introduced and outbreaks in recently vaccinated populations raised questions as to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines.
17) live virus vaccines shed the virus for up to 6 weeks after vaccination, thus have the potential to infect and spread disease to others even if the person vaccinated displays no symptoms. In fact, it's recommended that recently vaccinated individuals of live vaccines avoid public places, newborns, and anyone with a compromised immune system, yet we allow them in schools, but discriminate against the healthy, unvaccinated kids who aren't even carrying these diseases.
18) giving Tylenol right before or after a vaccination increases the risk of adverse reactions. Many children experience fever, redness, and generally may not feel well for a day or two following vaccines, and yet parents give them medicine to make them more comfortable, unknowingly increasing the risk of damaging their child's health.
Please research as much as you can, your child's life could depend on it, especially if they have a MTHFR Gene mutation.
by: Cathy Hall
So here is an interesting page that actually has all 18 of these "facts" listed and actually proves that all of them are false claims. It also sites all sources proving them to be false as well in each discussion. Actually pretty interesting read. Helped better prepare me for my future patient's parents that have similar questions or statements.
http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2018/05/18-assertions-...
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| inittowinit - 2018-10-10 12:13 PM Suerue2018 - 2018-10-10 11:06 AM I don't benefit anything from sharing truth. My children are well and healthy, I share to help other parents. The truth is there for those that want it. Others will remain sheep. Here's facts below for those wanting to expand their research. The following are NOT opinions, but actual verifiable facts. Research any of it if you have doubts or just want to expand your knowledge. 1) Combined doses of Vaccines have NEVER been tested for safety. The vaccines given to babies have never been tested on babies, or even children. 2) Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal immunity from being sued when their products inflict damage. 3) DNA from aborted fetuses are used in several vaccines used today. 4) the CDC has been caught destroying and hiding evidence on more than one occasion because it would negatively impact the consumers stance on vaccinations. 5) outbreaks occur in populations that are up to 90-99% vaccinated, AND most, if not all of those diagnosed with the disease have already been vaccinated against it. (If herd immunity is real, how is this even possible?) 6) more people die from the MMR vaccine itself than die of the measles. If you're weighing risks here, it's riskier to get the vaccine than not to. This is also the case with other vaccines, such as the flu shot and the HPV vaccine. The risks outweigh the benefits. 7) Peanut allergies were almost unheard of prior to the use of peanut oil in vaccines. Since the introduction of vaccines containing peanut oil, the number of people being diagnosed with a peanut allergy has risen exponentially. In addition, vaccinated children have much higher rates of allergies (of any kind) than those who are not. ?? multiple independent studies have shown that 11% of vaccinated children are diagnosed with asthma as compared to only 1% in unvaccinated children. 9) full vaccine package inserts are 10's of pages long, not just the 1-2 page you are given at the doctors office. 10) listed in vaccine package inserts as possible reactions or side effects are allergies, asthma, autism, swelling of the brain, and even SIDS. Right on the package! Not only are these possible side effects, but it's proof that vaccines can cause all of these conditions and more. They wouldn't be listed if they weren't connected. 11) many doctors receive incentives or bonuses when a certain percentage of their patients are vaccinated, begging the questions "if vaccines work so well, why do they have to push them so hard," and "if my doctor is essentially getting paid to give me shots, how do I know his intentions aren't just self serving?" 12) the CDC and vaccine manufacturers conduct many of their own studies of their products and conduct their own investigations of themselves, which is like saying "I have investigated and studied myself, and come to the conclusion that I am not guilty of any wrong doing." 13) an overwhelming majority of doctors have never even bothered to read the full vaccine package inserts they receive from the vaccine manufacturers that lists all the ingredients and possible side effects 14) Prior to the introduction of vaccines, SIDS was so rare that it wasn't even mentioned in infant mortality statistics. (Meaning less than 1% of infant deaths were due to an unknown cause) Only after most infants in the US received several doses of DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, and measles vaccines, there was an alarming epidemic of unexplained infant death. SIDS is the number one cause of death in infants in the US ages 28 days to 1 year. Most cases of SIDS occurs within two weeks of vaccination, usually within just days or even hours. The USA has both the highest rate of infant mortality of any other industrialized country, and also the most vaccines given to children. 15) diseases have been renamed after the introduction of a vaccine. What would have once been diagnosed as polio is now being diagnosed as many different diseases, all having the same symptoms once attributed to sufferers of polio. Only difference, it was only called polio prior to the introduction of the vaccine, and now is diagnosed as such diseases as viral or “aseptic” meningitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), spinal meningitis, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, post-polio syndrome, and acute flaccid paralysis(AFP), just to name a few. 16) the anti-vaccine movement isn't new, and wasn't born from Jenny McCarthy. It began soon after vaccines were introduced and outbreaks in recently vaccinated populations raised questions as to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. 17) live virus vaccines shed the virus for up to 6 weeks after vaccination, thus have the potential to infect and spread disease to others even if the person vaccinated displays no symptoms. In fact, it's recommended that recently vaccinated individuals of live vaccines avoid public places, newborns, and anyone with a compromised immune system, yet we allow them in schools, but discriminate against the healthy, unvaccinated kids who aren't even carrying these diseases. 18) giving Tylenol right before or after a vaccination increases the risk of adverse reactions. Many children experience fever, redness, and generally may not feel well for a day or two following vaccines, and yet parents give them medicine to make them more comfortable, unknowingly increasing the risk of damaging their child's health. Please research as much as you can, your child's life could depend on it, especially if they have a MTHFR Gene mutation. by: Cathy Hall So here is an interesting page that actually has all 18 of these "facts" listed and actually proves that all of them are false claims. It also sites all sources proving them to be false as well in each discussion. Actually pretty interesting read. Helped better prepare me for my future patient's parents that have similar questions or statements. http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2018/05/18-assertions-...Have you read the vaccine inserts? Why would the Pharmaceutical companies put these extensive inserts in the vaccine information if no one with letters behind their name is ever going to read them or the information was not pertinent? I have never read one myself, but I would like to now. Edited by TyE 2018-10-10 12:25 PM
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | TyE - 2018-10-10 12:07 PM
Bear - 2018-10-10 11:29 AM TyE - 2018-10-10 11:07 AM Bear,
Have you read the entire vaccine insert for every vaccine given in todays age?
Just answer her question on that one please. I really want to hear your opinion on that and what the insert says.  I am on the fence about vaccines...... so truly interested.Â
thank you.  That’s a very reasonable question, and here’s my answer: No. Nobody reads package inserts of every vaccine and medication as a matter of routine. That’s just a fact.Â
 I am "assuming" your question is a rhetorical one. I VERY rarely take any type of medication. I try to avoid them especially after all the money I spent on the above mentioned episode and having to have my esophagus stretched.Â
Thank you again for your honesty!
Trust me, I will thoroughly address your question about the inserts.
I did answer your question and I’m willing to expound on that further, but you didn’t answer my question, so I’ll ask you again.
I posted a real list of possible adverse events related to a medication, and I asked if YOU would take this medication, or willingly give it to your 14 year old son or husband. Would you? | |
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inittowinit - 2018-10-10 12:13 PM Suerue2018 - 2018-10-10 11:06 AM I don't benefit anything from sharing truth. My children are well and healthy, I share to help other parents. The truth is there for those that want it. Others will remain sheep. Here's facts below for those wanting to expand their research. The following are NOT opinions, but actual verifiable facts. Research any of it if you have doubts or just want to expand your knowledge. 1) Combined doses of Vaccines have NEVER been tested for safety. The vaccines given to babies have never been tested on babies, or even children. 2) Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal immunity from being sued when their products inflict damage. 3) DNA from aborted fetuses are used in several vaccines used today. 4) the CDC has been caught destroying and hiding evidence on more than one occasion because it would negatively impact the consumers stance on vaccinations. 5) outbreaks occur in populations that are up to 90-99% vaccinated, AND most, if not all of those diagnosed with the disease have already been vaccinated against it. (If herd immunity is real, how is this even possible?) 6) more people die from the MMR vaccine itself than die of the measles. If you're weighing risks here, it's riskier to get the vaccine than not to. This is also the case with other vaccines, such as the flu shot and the HPV vaccine. The risks outweigh the benefits. 7) Peanut allergies were almost unheard of prior to the use of peanut oil in vaccines. Since the introduction of vaccines containing peanut oil, the number of people being diagnosed with a peanut allergy has risen exponentially. In addition, vaccinated children have much higher rates of allergies (of any kind) than those who are not. ?? multiple independent studies have shown that 11% of vaccinated children are diagnosed with asthma as compared to only 1% in unvaccinated children. 9) full vaccine package inserts are 10's of pages long, not just the 1-2 page you are given at the doctors office. 10) listed in vaccine package inserts as possible reactions or side effects are allergies, asthma, autism, swelling of the brain, and even SIDS. Right on the package! Not only are these possible side effects, but it's proof that vaccines can cause all of these conditions and more. They wouldn't be listed if they weren't connected. 11) many doctors receive incentives or bonuses when a certain percentage of their patients are vaccinated, begging the questions "if vaccines work so well, why do they have to push them so hard," and "if my doctor is essentially getting paid to give me shots, how do I know his intentions aren't just self serving?" 12) the CDC and vaccine manufacturers conduct many of their own studies of their products and conduct their own investigations of themselves, which is like saying "I have investigated and studied myself, and come to the conclusion that I am not guilty of any wrong doing." 13) an overwhelming majority of doctors have never even bothered to read the full vaccine package inserts they receive from the vaccine manufacturers that lists all the ingredients and possible side effects 14) Prior to the introduction of vaccines, SIDS was so rare that it wasn't even mentioned in infant mortality statistics. (Meaning less than 1% of infant deaths were due to an unknown cause) Only after most infants in the US received several doses of DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, and measles vaccines, there was an alarming epidemic of unexplained infant death. SIDS is the number one cause of death in infants in the US ages 28 days to 1 year. Most cases of SIDS occurs within two weeks of vaccination, usually within just days or even hours. The USA has both the highest rate of infant mortality of any other industrialized country, and also the most vaccines given to children. 15) diseases have been renamed after the introduction of a vaccine. What would have once been diagnosed as polio is now being diagnosed as many different diseases, all having the same symptoms once attributed to sufferers of polio. Only difference, it was only called polio prior to the introduction of the vaccine, and now is diagnosed as such diseases as viral or “aseptic” meningitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), spinal meningitis, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, post-polio syndrome, and acute flaccid paralysis(AFP), just to name a few. 16) the anti-vaccine movement isn't new, and wasn't born from Jenny McCarthy. It began soon after vaccines were introduced and outbreaks in recently vaccinated populations raised questions as to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. 17) live virus vaccines shed the virus for up to 6 weeks after vaccination, thus have the potential to infect and spread disease to others even if the person vaccinated displays no symptoms. In fact, it's recommended that recently vaccinated individuals of live vaccines avoid public places, newborns, and anyone with a compromised immune system, yet we allow them in schools, but discriminate against the healthy, unvaccinated kids who aren't even carrying these diseases. 18) giving Tylenol right before or after a vaccination increases the risk of adverse reactions. Many children experience fever, redness, and generally may not feel well for a day or two following vaccines, and yet parents give them medicine to make them more comfortable, unknowingly increasing the risk of damaging their child's health. Please research as much as you can, your child's life could depend on it, especially if they have a MTHFR Gene mutation. by: Cathy Hall So here is an interesting page that actually has all 18 of these "facts" listed and actually proves that all of them are false claims. It also sites all sources proving them to be false as well in each discussion. Actually pretty interesting read. Helped better prepare me for my future patient's parents that have similar questions or statements. http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2018/05/18-assertions-...Have you read the vaccine inserts?  Why would the Pharmaceutical companies put these extensive inserts in the vaccine information if no one with letters behind their name is ever going to read them or the information was not pertinent? I have never read one myself, but I would like to now.Â
Actually yes I have. As a pediatric nurse I've read just about everyone that I have given. Reason being, because I am tired of being asked if I have read them by skeptical parents. Vaccine package inserts are important documents, but only if the information in them is properly understood and not picked apart to see only what you want to see. | |
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| inittowinit - 2018-10-10 12:40 PM TyE - 2018-10-10 1:24 PM inittowinit - 2018-10-10 12:13 PM Suerue2018 - 2018-10-10 11:06 AM I don't benefit anything from sharing truth. My children are well and healthy, I share to help other parents. The truth is there for those that want it. Others will remain sheep. Here's facts below for those wanting to expand their research. The following are NOT opinions, but actual verifiable facts. Research any of it if you have doubts or just want to expand your knowledge. 1) Combined doses of Vaccines have NEVER been tested for safety. The vaccines given to babies have never been tested on babies, or even children. 2) Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal immunity from being sued when their products inflict damage. 3) DNA from aborted fetuses are used in several vaccines used today. 4) the CDC has been caught destroying and hiding evidence on more than one occasion because it would negatively impact the consumers stance on vaccinations. 5) outbreaks occur in populations that are up to 90-99% vaccinated, AND most, if not all of those diagnosed with the disease have already been vaccinated against it. (If herd immunity is real, how is this even possible?) 6) more people die from the MMR vaccine itself than die of the measles. If you're weighing risks here, it's riskier to get the vaccine than not to. This is also the case with other vaccines, such as the flu shot and the HPV vaccine. The risks outweigh the benefits. 7) Peanut allergies were almost unheard of prior to the use of peanut oil in vaccines. Since the introduction of vaccines containing peanut oil, the number of people being diagnosed with a peanut allergy has risen exponentially. In addition, vaccinated children have much higher rates of allergies (of any kind) than those who are not. ?? multiple independent studies have shown that 11% of vaccinated children are diagnosed with asthma as compared to only 1% in unvaccinated children. 9) full vaccine package inserts are 10's of pages long, not just the 1-2 page you are given at the doctors office. 10) listed in vaccine package inserts as possible reactions or side effects are allergies, asthma, autism, swelling of the brain, and even SIDS. Right on the package! Not only are these possible side effects, but it's proof that vaccines can cause all of these conditions and more. They wouldn't be listed if they weren't connected. 11) many doctors receive incentives or bonuses when a certain percentage of their patients are vaccinated, begging the questions "if vaccines work so well, why do they have to push them so hard," and "if my doctor is essentially getting paid to give me shots, how do I know his intentions aren't just self serving?" 12) the CDC and vaccine manufacturers conduct many of their own studies of their products and conduct their own investigations of themselves, which is like saying "I have investigated and studied myself, and come to the conclusion that I am not guilty of any wrong doing." 13) an overwhelming majority of doctors have never even bothered to read the full vaccine package inserts they receive from the vaccine manufacturers that lists all the ingredients and possible side effects 14) Prior to the introduction of vaccines, SIDS was so rare that it wasn't even mentioned in infant mortality statistics. (Meaning less than 1% of infant deaths were due to an unknown cause) Only after most infants in the US received several doses of DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, and measles vaccines, there was an alarming epidemic of unexplained infant death. SIDS is the number one cause of death in infants in the US ages 28 days to 1 year. Most cases of SIDS occurs within two weeks of vaccination, usually within just days or even hours. The USA has both the highest rate of infant mortality of any other industrialized country, and also the most vaccines given to children. 15) diseases have been renamed after the introduction of a vaccine. What would have once been diagnosed as polio is now being diagnosed as many different diseases, all having the same symptoms once attributed to sufferers of polio. Only difference, it was only called polio prior to the introduction of the vaccine, and now is diagnosed as such diseases as viral or “aseptic” meningitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), spinal meningitis, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, post-polio syndrome, and acute flaccid paralysis(AFP), just to name a few. 16) the anti-vaccine movement isn't new, and wasn't born from Jenny McCarthy. It began soon after vaccines were introduced and outbreaks in recently vaccinated populations raised questions as to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. 17) live virus vaccines shed the virus for up to 6 weeks after vaccination, thus have the potential to infect and spread disease to others even if the person vaccinated displays no symptoms. In fact, it's recommended that recently vaccinated individuals of live vaccines avoid public places, newborns, and anyone with a compromised immune system, yet we allow them in schools, but discriminate against the healthy, unvaccinated kids who aren't even carrying these diseases. 18) giving Tylenol right before or after a vaccination increases the risk of adverse reactions. Many children experience fever, redness, and generally may not feel well for a day or two following vaccines, and yet parents give them medicine to make them more comfortable, unknowingly increasing the risk of damaging their child's health. Please research as much as you can, your child's life could depend on it, especially if they have a MTHFR Gene mutation. by: Cathy Hall So here is an interesting page that actually has all 18 of these "facts" listed and actually proves that all of them are false claims. It also sites all sources proving them to be false as well in each discussion. Actually pretty interesting read. Helped better prepare me for my future patient's parents that have similar questions or statements. http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2018/05/18-assertions-...Have you read the vaccine inserts? Why would the Pharmaceutical companies put these extensive inserts in the vaccine information if no one with letters behind their name is ever going to read them or the information was not pertinent? I have never read one myself, but I would like to now. Actually yes I have. As a pediatric nurse I've read just about everyone that I have given. Reason being, because I am tired of being asked if I have read them by skeptical parents. Vaccine package inserts are important documents, but only if the information in them is properly understood and not picked apart to see only what you want to see.
I have granddaughters that are on their vaccine schedule, so therfore I am trying to educate myself on the subject. I have talked with MD's that are against vaccine's but not any MD's yet that are pro vaccine that have responded to the question of simply reading the vaccine insert and telling me their thoughts. Edited by TyE 2018-10-10 1:08 PM
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | With all the illegal immigrants flooding our country and here in South Texas its a really big problem, why WOULD YOU NOT want to protect your children from dieases? they are bringing measles, tuberculosis, rabies, hepatitis A, influenze, chickenpox and many more with them and trying to enroll their children in our schools, now why would you not want to protect your own children? This just makes no since to me, reading things posted on FB about how harmful vaccines are is just crazy..
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| Bear - 2018-10-10 12:34 PM TyE - 2018-10-10 12:07 PM Bear - 2018-10-10 11:29 AM TyE - 2018-10-10 11:07 AM Bear,
Have you read the entire vaccine insert for every vaccine given in todays age?
Just answer her question on that one please. I really want to hear your opinion on that and what the insert says. I am on the fence about vaccines...... so truly interested.
thank you. That’s a very reasonable question, and here’s my answer: No. Nobody reads package inserts of every vaccine and medication as a matter of routine. That’s just a fact.
I am "assuming" your question is a rhetorical one. I VERY rarely take any type of medication. I try to avoid them especially after all the money I spent on the above mentioned episode and having to have my esophagus stretched.
Thank you again for your honesty! Trust me, I will thoroughly address your question about the inserts. I did answer your question and I’m willing to expound on that further, but you didn’t answer my question, so I’ll ask you again. I posted a real list of possible adverse events related to a medication, and I asked if YOU would take this medication, or willingly give it to your 14 year old son or husband. Would you?
FYI and others: I can answer you this though I read all of the side effects of any type of pill I put in my mouth. I also do not eat cheetos, drink pop, eat wheat, smoke cigs, vape, drink alcohol, eat at McD, Taco Bell or anything similiar. etc. I buy 90% organic, non gmo. Stay away from sugar (most of the time ) I do see a Regualr Nurse Practioner and a Naturopath MD and I firmly believe that like my NP says the Medical field needs to learn from the Naturopaths and vice versa. To learn from each other. I am not anti Medicine.
Oh and by the way for others information I have the MTHFR gene but only from 1 parent... I can't remember what it's called when it is that way? Or maybe I said that wrong?? My naturopath included this test in his bloodwork, not expensive and to make sure I take the right type of B vitamin.
Look forward to your information!
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inittowinit - 2018-10-10 12:40 PM TyE - 2018-10-10 1:24 PM inittowinit - 2018-10-10 12:13 PM Suerue2018 - 2018-10-10 11:06 AM I don't benefit anything from sharing truth. My children are well and healthy, I share to help other parents. The truth is there for those that want it. Others will remain sheep. Here's facts below for those wanting to expand their research. The following are NOT opinions, but actual verifiable facts. Research any of it if you have doubts or just want to expand your knowledge. 1) Combined doses of Vaccines have NEVER been tested for safety. The vaccines given to babies have never been tested on babies, or even children. 2) Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal immunity from being sued when their products inflict damage. 3) DNA from aborted fetuses are used in several vaccines used today. 4) the CDC has been caught destroying and hiding evidence on more than one occasion because it would negatively impact the consumers stance on vaccinations. 5) outbreaks occur in populations that are up to 90-99% vaccinated, AND most, if not all of those diagnosed with the disease have already been vaccinated against it. (If herd immunity is real, how is this even possible?) 6) more people die from the MMR vaccine itself than die of the measles. If you're weighing risks here, it's riskier to get the vaccine than not to. This is also the case with other vaccines, such as the flu shot and the HPV vaccine. The risks outweigh the benefits. 7) Peanut allergies were almost unheard of prior to the use of peanut oil in vaccines. Since the introduction of vaccines containing peanut oil, the number of people being diagnosed with a peanut allergy has risen exponentially. In addition, vaccinated children have much higher rates of allergies (of any kind) than those who are not. ?? multiple independent studies have shown that 11% of vaccinated children are diagnosed with asthma as compared to only 1% in unvaccinated children. 9) full vaccine package inserts are 10's of pages long, not just the 1-2 page you are given at the doctors office. 10) listed in vaccine package inserts as possible reactions or side effects are allergies, asthma, autism, swelling of the brain, and even SIDS. Right on the package! Not only are these possible side effects, but it's proof that vaccines can cause all of these conditions and more. They wouldn't be listed if they weren't connected. 11) many doctors receive incentives or bonuses when a certain percentage of their patients are vaccinated, begging the questions "if vaccines work so well, why do they have to push them so hard," and "if my doctor is essentially getting paid to give me shots, how do I know his intentions aren't just self serving?" 12) the CDC and vaccine manufacturers conduct many of their own studies of their products and conduct their own investigations of themselves, which is like saying "I have investigated and studied myself, and come to the conclusion that I am not guilty of any wrong doing." 13) an overwhelming majority of doctors have never even bothered to read the full vaccine package inserts they receive from the vaccine manufacturers that lists all the ingredients and possible side effects 14) Prior to the introduction of vaccines, SIDS was so rare that it wasn't even mentioned in infant mortality statistics. (Meaning less than 1% of infant deaths were due to an unknown cause) Only after most infants in the US received several doses of DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, and measles vaccines, there was an alarming epidemic of unexplained infant death. SIDS is the number one cause of death in infants in the US ages 28 days to 1 year. Most cases of SIDS occurs within two weeks of vaccination, usually within just days or even hours. The USA has both the highest rate of infant mortality of any other industrialized country, and also the most vaccines given to children. 15) diseases have been renamed after the introduction of a vaccine. What would have once been diagnosed as polio is now being diagnosed as many different diseases, all having the same symptoms once attributed to sufferers of polio. Only difference, it was only called polio prior to the introduction of the vaccine, and now is diagnosed as such diseases as viral or “aseptic” meningitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), spinal meningitis, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, post-polio syndrome, and acute flaccid paralysis(AFP), just to name a few. 16) the anti-vaccine movement isn't new, and wasn't born from Jenny McCarthy. It began soon after vaccines were introduced and outbreaks in recently vaccinated populations raised questions as to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. 17) live virus vaccines shed the virus for up to 6 weeks after vaccination, thus have the potential to infect and spread disease to others even if the person vaccinated displays no symptoms. In fact, it's recommended that recently vaccinated individuals of live vaccines avoid public places, newborns, and anyone with a compromised immune system, yet we allow them in schools, but discriminate against the healthy, unvaccinated kids who aren't even carrying these diseases. 18) giving Tylenol right before or after a vaccination increases the risk of adverse reactions. Many children experience fever, redness, and generally may not feel well for a day or two following vaccines, and yet parents give them medicine to make them more comfortable, unknowingly increasing the risk of damaging their child's health. Please research as much as you can, your child's life could depend on it, especially if they have a MTHFR Gene mutation. by: Cathy Hall So here is an interesting page that actually has all 18 of these "facts" listed and actually proves that all of them are false claims. It also sites all sources proving them to be false as well in each discussion. Actually pretty interesting read. Helped better prepare me for my future patient's parents that have similar questions or statements. http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2018/05/18-assertions-...
Have you read the vaccine inserts?  Why would the Pharmaceutical companies put these extensive inserts in the vaccine information if no one with letters behind their name is ever going to read them or the information was not pertinent? I have never read one myself, but I would like to now. Actually yes I have. As a pediatric nurse I've read just about everyone that I have given. Reason being, because I am tired of being asked if I have read them by skeptical parents. Vaccine package inserts are important documents, but only if the information in them is properly understood and not picked apart to see only what you want to see.
I have granddaughters that are on their vaccine schedule, so therfore I am trying to educate myself on the subject. I have talked with MD's that are against vaccine's but not any yet that are pro vaccine that have responded to the question of simply reading the vaccine insert and telling me their thoughts.Â
No I have not found anything to cause concern. I have vaccinated thousands of children in my 15 years, some from there first set of vaccines up until now at 15 years. I have yet to come across any of them who have had any horrific adverse reactions from these vaccines. Yes occasionally you will have some children who develop fever or have a rash at the injection site. But that is a side effect of any injection not just a vaccine. I would willingly and have had every vaccine that I give to my patients. I have also had the HPV vaccines and plan on getting the Gardasil 9 that is now been approved for adults older than 26. I also get a flu vaccine every year. | |
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Location: CTX | Southtxponygirl - 2018-10-10 12:57 PM With all the illegal immigrants flooding our country and here in South Texas its a really big problem, why WOULD YOU NOT want to protect your children from dieases? they are bringing measles, tuberculosis, rabies, hepatitis A, influenze, chickenpox and many more with them and trying to enroll their children in our schools, now why would you not want to protect your own children? This just makes no since to me, reading things posted on FB about how harmful vaccines are is just crazy..
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| inittowinit - 2018-10-10 1:07 PM TyE - 2018-10-10 1:49 PM inittowinit - 2018-10-10 12:40 PM TyE - 2018-10-10 1:24 PM inittowinit - 2018-10-10 12:13 PM Suerue2018 - 2018-10-10 11:06 AM I don't benefit anything from sharing truth. My children are well and healthy, I share to help other parents. The truth is there for those that want it. Others will remain sheep. Here's facts below for those wanting to expand their research. The following are NOT opinions, but actual verifiable facts. Research any of it if you have doubts or just want to expand your knowledge. 1) Combined doses of Vaccines have NEVER been tested for safety. The vaccines given to babies have never been tested on babies, or even children. 2) Vaccine manufacturers have been granted legal immunity from being sued when their products inflict damage. 3) DNA from aborted fetuses are used in several vaccines used today. 4) the CDC has been caught destroying and hiding evidence on more than one occasion because it would negatively impact the consumers stance on vaccinations. 5) outbreaks occur in populations that are up to 90-99% vaccinated, AND most, if not all of those diagnosed with the disease have already been vaccinated against it. (If herd immunity is real, how is this even possible?) 6) more people die from the MMR vaccine itself than die of the measles. If you're weighing risks here, it's riskier to get the vaccine than not to. This is also the case with other vaccines, such as the flu shot and the HPV vaccine. The risks outweigh the benefits. 7) Peanut allergies were almost unheard of prior to the use of peanut oil in vaccines. Since the introduction of vaccines containing peanut oil, the number of people being diagnosed with a peanut allergy has risen exponentially. In addition, vaccinated children have much higher rates of allergies (of any kind) than those who are not. ?? multiple independent studies have shown that 11% of vaccinated children are diagnosed with asthma as compared to only 1% in unvaccinated children. 9) full vaccine package inserts are 10's of pages long, not just the 1-2 page you are given at the doctors office. 10) listed in vaccine package inserts as possible reactions or side effects are allergies, asthma, autism, swelling of the brain, and even SIDS. Right on the package! Not only are these possible side effects, but it's proof that vaccines can cause all of these conditions and more. They wouldn't be listed if they weren't connected. 11) many doctors receive incentives or bonuses when a certain percentage of their patients are vaccinated, begging the questions "if vaccines work so well, why do they have to push them so hard," and "if my doctor is essentially getting paid to give me shots, how do I know his intentions aren't just self serving?" 12) the CDC and vaccine manufacturers conduct many of their own studies of their products and conduct their own investigations of themselves, which is like saying "I have investigated and studied myself, and come to the conclusion that I am not guilty of any wrong doing." 13) an overwhelming majority of doctors have never even bothered to read the full vaccine package inserts they receive from the vaccine manufacturers that lists all the ingredients and possible side effects 14) Prior to the introduction of vaccines, SIDS was so rare that it wasn't even mentioned in infant mortality statistics. (Meaning less than 1% of infant deaths were due to an unknown cause) Only after most infants in the US received several doses of DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus), polio, and measles vaccines, there was an alarming epidemic of unexplained infant death. SIDS is the number one cause of death in infants in the US ages 28 days to 1 year. Most cases of SIDS occurs within two weeks of vaccination, usually within just days or even hours. The USA has both the highest rate of infant mortality of any other industrialized country, and also the most vaccines given to children. 15) diseases have been renamed after the introduction of a vaccine. What would have once been diagnosed as polio is now being diagnosed as many different diseases, all having the same symptoms once attributed to sufferers of polio. Only difference, it was only called polio prior to the introduction of the vaccine, and now is diagnosed as such diseases as viral or “aseptic” meningitis, Guillain-Barre Syndrome (GBS), spinal meningitis, inhibitory palsy, intermittent fever, post-polio syndrome, and acute flaccid paralysis(AFP), just to name a few. 16) the anti-vaccine movement isn't new, and wasn't born from Jenny McCarthy. It began soon after vaccines were introduced and outbreaks in recently vaccinated populations raised questions as to the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. 17) live virus vaccines shed the virus for up to 6 weeks after vaccination, thus have the potential to infect and spread disease to others even if the person vaccinated displays no symptoms. In fact, it's recommended that recently vaccinated individuals of live vaccines avoid public places, newborns, and anyone with a compromised immune system, yet we allow them in schools, but discriminate against the healthy, unvaccinated kids who aren't even carrying these diseases. 18) giving Tylenol right before or after a vaccination increases the risk of adverse reactions. Many children experience fever, redness, and generally may not feel well for a day or two following vaccines, and yet parents give them medicine to make them more comfortable, unknowingly increasing the risk of damaging their child's health. Please research as much as you can, your child's life could depend on it, especially if they have a MTHFR Gene mutation. by: Cathy Hall So here is an interesting page that actually has all 18 of these "facts" listed and actually proves that all of them are false claims. It also sites all sources proving them to be false as well in each discussion. Actually pretty interesting read. Helped better prepare me for my future patient's parents that have similar questions or statements. http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2018/05/18-assertions-...
Have you read the vaccine inserts? Why would the Pharmaceutical companies put these extensive inserts in the vaccine information if no one with letters behind their name is ever going to read them or the information was not pertinent? I have never read one myself, but I would like to now. Actually yes I have. As a pediatric nurse I've read just about everyone that I have given. Reason being, because I am tired of being asked if I have read them by skeptical parents. Vaccine package inserts are important documents, but only if the information in them is properly understood and not picked apart to see only what you want to see.
I have granddaughters that are on their vaccine schedule, so therfore I am trying to educate myself on the subject. I have talked with MD's that are against vaccine's but not any yet that are pro vaccine that have responded to the question of simply reading the vaccine insert and telling me their thoughts. No I have not found anything to cause concern. I have vaccinated thousands of children in my 15 years, some from there first set of vaccines up until now at 15 years. I have yet to come across any of them who have had any horrific adverse reactions from these vaccines. Yes occasionally you will have some children who develop fever or have a rash at the injection site. But that is a side effect of any injection not just a vaccine. I would willingly and have had every vaccine that I give to my patients. I have also had the HPV vaccines and plan on getting the Gardasil 9 that is now been approved for adults older than 26. I also get a flu vaccine every year.
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Location: N Texas | Bear - 2018-10-10 11:29 AM
TyE - 2018-10-10 11:07 AM
Bear,
Have you read the entire vaccine insert for every vaccine given in todays age?
Just answer her question on that one please. I really want to hear your opinion on that and what the insert says.  I am on the fence about vaccines...... so truly interested.Â
thank you. Â
That’s a very reasonable question, and here’s my answer:
No. Nobody reads package inserts of every vaccine and medication as a matter of routine. That’s just a fact.
Stick with me, and read this carefully. I’m about to illustrate a point.
Here is a list of potential complications or adverse events associated with the use of a medication. Some of these are redundant, but this is what’s contained in the “package insert”:
Conditions Of Excess Stomach Acid Secretion
Feel Like Throwing Up - nausea
Heartburn
Irritation Of The Stomach Or Intestines
Stomach Cramps
Throwing Up
A Rupture or perforation in The Wall Of The Stomach Or Intestine
Anemia
Bleeding and hemorrhage
Bleeding Of The Stomach Or Intestines
Bloody stools
Bronchospasm and worsening of asthma with respiratory failure
Decrease In The Ability Of Platelet Cells To Clot
Decreased Blood Platelets
Decreased White Blood Cells
Drowsiness
Giant Hives - urticaria
Hemolytic Anemia
Hemorrhage Within The Skull, stroke, possibly fatal.
Hepatitis and rarely liver failure
Hives
Inflammation Of Skin Caused By An Allergy
Interstitial Nephritis and renal failure.
Itching
Large Purple Or Brown Skin Blotches
Life Threatening Allergic Reaction
Ringing In The Ears
Seizures
Small Skin Blister
Stomach Or Intestinal Ulcer
Trouble Breathing
Wheezing
Abnormal Liver Function Tests
Fatal liver failure with seizures in children
Burning Upper abdominal pain
Collection Of Clotted Blood In An Organ, Space Or Tissue
Indigestion
Loss Of Appetite
Rash
Redness Of Skin
So, I ask you, TyE, would you take this medication after reading this?
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | TyE - 2018-10-10 12:07 PM
Bear - 2018-10-10 11:29 AM TyE - 2018-10-10 11:07 AM Bear,
Have you read the entire vaccine insert for every vaccine given in todays age?
Just answer her question on that one please. I really want to hear your opinion on that and what the insert says.  I am on the fence about vaccines...... so truly interested.Â
thank you.  That’s a very reasonable question, and here’s my answer: No. Nobody reads package inserts of every vaccine and medication as a matter of routine. That’s just a fact.Â
 I am "assuming" your question is a rhetorical one. I VERY rarely take any type of medication. I try to avoid them especially after all the money I spent on the above mentioned episode and having to have my esophagus stretched.Â
Thank you again for your honesty!
I don’t think steroids cause esophageal spasms. Did you actually read that in a package insert? I’d like to know if you are certain you read this. Now, they can cause esophagitus or ulcers, just like gastric ulcers, but I’m not aware of them casusing esophageal “spasm”.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Gunner11 - 2018-10-10 1:25 PM
Bear - 2018-10-10 11:29 AM
TyE - 2018-10-10 11:07 AM
Bear,
Have you read the entire vaccine insert for every vaccine given in todays age?
Just answer her question on that one please. I really want to hear your opinion on that and what the insert says.  I am on the fence about vaccines...... so truly interested.Â
thank you. Â
That’s a very reasonable question, and here’s my answer:
No. Nobody reads package inserts of every vaccine and medication as a matter of routine. That’s just a fact.
Stick with me, and read this carefully. I’m about to illustrate a point.
Here is a list of potential complications or adverse events associated with the use of a medication. Some of these are redundant, but this is what’s contained in the “package insert”:
Conditions Of Excess Stomach Acid Secretion
Feel Like Throwing Up - nausea
Heartburn
Irritation Of The Stomach Or Intestines
Stomach Cramps
Throwing Up
A Rupture or perforation in The Wall Of The Stomach Or Intestine
Anemia
Bleeding and hemorrhage
Bleeding Of The Stomach Or Intestines
Bloody stools
Bronchospasm and worsening of asthma with respiratory failure
Decrease In The Ability Of Platelet Cells To Clot
Decreased Blood Platelets
Decreased White Blood Cells
Drowsiness
Giant Hives - urticaria
Hemolytic Anemia
Hemorrhage Within The Skull, stroke, possibly fatal.
Hepatitis and rarely liver failure
Hives
Inflammation Of Skin Caused By An Allergy
Interstitial Nephritis and renal failure.
Itching
Large Purple Or Brown Skin Blotches
Life Threatening Allergic Reaction
Ringing In The Ears
Seizures
Small Skin Blister
Stomach Or Intestinal Ulcer
Trouble Breathing
Wheezing
Abnormal Liver Function Tests
Fatal liver failure with seizures in children
Burning Upper abdominal pain
Collection Of Clotted Blood In An Organ, Space Or Tissue
Indigestion
Loss Of Appetite
Rash
Redness Of Skin
So, I ask you, TyE, would you take this medication after reading this?
Ibuprofen? I know it's going to be something super common that we all use
She won’t answer me, but this is a package insert for aspirin.
Plain old everyday aspirin. The kind our great grandparents took.
One of the oldest medications known to man. One of the greatest discoveries in the history of medical science.
Most people would say they would never give something this dangerous sounding if they didn’t know this is for ASPIRIN.
If you really want to scare the hell out of yourself, read the package insert for Tylenol or Advil or Aleve.
I have read hundreds of package inserts over the years. They can and do serve a useful purpose, but it’s much more important to read the pertinent literature from reputable, peer-reviewed, scientific literature than it is for me to read a package insert printed by the company that makes a given drug. A package insert is no replacement for years of experience and hours of reading about drugs and vaccines. This is why doctors are required to re-certify for their specialty and this is why we are required to have so many hours of verifiable continuing medical education (CME) in order to be licensed.
In Minnesota, for example, I am required to submit proof that I have at least 75 CME hours over 3 years before my license can be renewed.
I just renewed my license. I had 334 hours of CME since 2015.
Obviously, I am motivated by more than this minimum requirement.
This is why I don’t need to read every package insert of everything I give to a patient. | |
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