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Location: ND | musikmaker - 2014-04-24 1:30 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-24 11:11 AM smiley - 2014-04-24 11:03 AM Yes, it does, IMO, the BLM showed in force based on previous encounters with this family and the fact that the family and others were protesting and asked for and rec'd "others" via militias and oath keepers.
Yes, HIS lies matter. He put REAL people - people who believed him in danger...........you're ability to let him off the hook is kinda annoying to be honest.
There is no doubt Reid is pond scum, but as Finney said - the two are not related. One does not negate the other.
Anyhow...I just watched this video & I think it's by far the best summary of what is going on in our world...please watch. There are some great things that can come from this...we really don't need to be at each other's throats...it does the world no good & if ANY good can come from this...it needs to.
We all get to meet our Maker someday...in doing so we get to meet 'self'. Mercy.
This is good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t84xLD2KbO4
I saw this & thought it was funny...for all those who are so ready to hang this man...settle down!
This is an old man who tells it like he sees it...sure, it's not pc...'negro' is an old fashioned referral that's no longer appropriate (since it changes every year it's hard to keep up)...in hearing his response it's clear he still doesn't 'get' how some chose to take it...I know if I heard that from some like minded people of his generation I would take it just how he said it...the 'new' slavery is no better and even worse than the 'old' slavery. He never intimated that it was better than freedom. We all need to get a grip & stop allowing the media to spin things.
This is concerning his 'heritage' that was brought into question...sorry to be so 'annoying'...lol.
This was posted by a supporter who did her homework-I figured out that the investigative reporter who wrote this article didn't do a very thorough job and was searching the wrong names. He should have searched for the surname Leavitt. Cliven Bundy is a direct decedent of Dudley Leavitt who would be Cliven's great great grandfather. It appears Dudley was the direct ancestor on Cliven's mother' side that first came to settle in Bunkerville,NV.
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25301551/bundys-ancestral-rights-come-under-scrutiny
There is inaccurate information in this article.
"Early census records show Cliven's maternal grandmother,Christena Jensen,was born in Nevada in 1901. One genealogical researcher says records indicate Jensen helped settle Bunkerville some years later."
This is INACCURATE: (they even spelled her name wrong): Clive's maternal grandmother's name is Abigail Christina ABBOTT Jenson born 22 JAN 1891 Bunkerville,Clark Co.,NV
"Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt."
Raoul Leavitt was a decedent of Dudley Leavitt,Clive's great great grandfather. Clive's great grandmother Mary Jane Leavitt's father was Dudley Leavitt who is Cliven Bundy's great great grandfather,he married a woman from Utah,Mary Huntsman in 1853,and eventually (probably 1877 as Clive has been saying) they settled in Bunkerville NV until Dudley died there in 1908.
Cliven Bundy inherited his ancestral rights that has been handed down through five generations in a direct line with the first generation being his great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt on his mothers side,who came from Salt Lake City Utah to settle in Bunkerville,NV sometime between 1853 when he married his wife Mary Huntsman to when he died in 1908 in Bunkerville (Cliven Bundy has claimed it was in 1877).
Cliven inherited his ancestral land rights from these ancestors in this order: Cliven's mother Margaret Bodel JENSON-Bundy - Cliven's grandmother,Margaret's mother,Abigail Christina ABBOTT-Jenson - Cliven's great grandmother,Mary Jane LEAVITT-Abbott. Abigail "Christina" Abbot-Jenson's mother, Cliven's great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt,Mary Jane Leavitt-Abbott's father.
This research was conducted here at the Rootsweb Ancestry website here:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? op=PED&db=dowfam3&id=I549063
ASOLUTELY NONE OF THIS DEBATE MATTERS ANYMORE BECAUSE HE IS AN IDIOT AND THE SMALL PERCENTAGE OF AMERICANS THAT WERE PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS STORY ARE NOW CONVINCED THAT YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF CRACKPOTS.........
and for those actually following this, we already knew that the Finney info was incorrect......that whole history was brought up, i think even on here pages ago.........
BUT AGAIN IT DOESN'T MATTER.....NOW EVERYONE ONLY THINKS ABOUT A BUNCH OF CRACKPOT ANTI GOVT DOMESTIC TERRORIST GOP LOVING RACISTS.......AND BACK TO THE GOVT CHANNEL THEY GO......
SO QUIT TALKING ABOUT THIS IDIOT AND FIND SOMEONE OR SOMETHING DESERVING TO GET BEHIND..... | |
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Location: North Texas | musikmaker - 2014-04-24 1:30 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-24 11:11 AM smiley - 2014-04-24 11:03 AM Yes, it does, IMO, the BLM showed in force based on previous encounters with this family and the fact that the family and others were protesting and asked for and rec'd "others" via militias and oath keepers.
Yes, HIS lies matter. He put REAL people - people who believed him in danger...........you're ability to let him off the hook is kinda annoying to be honest.
There is no doubt Reid is pond scum, but as Finney said - the two are not related. One does not negate the other.
Anyhow...I just watched this video & I think it's by far the best summary of what is going on in our world...please watch. There are some great things that can come from this...we really don't need to be at each other's throats...it does the world no good & if ANY good can come from this...it needs to.
We all get to meet our Maker someday...in doing so we get to meet 'self'. Mercy.
This is good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t84xLD2KbO4
I saw this & thought it was funny...for all those who are so ready to hang this man...settle down!
This is an old man who tells it like he sees it...sure, it's not pc...'negro' is an old fashioned referral that's no longer appropriate (since it changes every year it's hard to keep up)...in hearing his response it's clear he still doesn't 'get' how some chose to take it...I know if I heard that from some like minded people of his generation I would take it just how he said it...the 'new' slavery is no better and even worse than the 'old' slavery. He never intimated that it was better than freedom. We all need to get a grip & stop allowing the media to spin things.
This is concerning his 'heritage' that was brought into question...sorry to be so 'annoying'...lol.
This was posted by a supporter who did her homework-I figured out that the investigative reporter who wrote this article didn't do a very thorough job and was searching the wrong names. He should have searched for the surname Leavitt. Cliven Bundy is a direct decedent of Dudley Leavitt who would be Cliven's great great grandfather. It appears Dudley was the direct ancestor on Cliven's mother' side that first came to settle in Bunkerville,NV.
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/25301551/bundys-ancestral-rights-come-under-scrutiny
There is inaccurate information in this article.
"Early census records show Cliven's maternal grandmother,Christena Jensen,was born in Nevada in 1901. One genealogical researcher says records indicate Jensen helped settle Bunkerville some years later."
This is INACCURATE: (they even spelled her name wrong): Clive's maternal grandmother's name is Abigail Christina ABBOTT Jenson born 22 JAN 1891 Bunkerville,Clark Co.,NV
"Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt."
Raoul Leavitt was a decedent of Dudley Leavitt,Clive's great great grandfather. Clive's great grandmother Mary Jane Leavitt's father was Dudley Leavitt who is Cliven Bundy's great great grandfather,he married a woman from Utah,Mary Huntsman in 1853,and eventually (probably 1877 as Clive has been saying) they settled in Bunkerville NV until Dudley died there in 1908.
Cliven Bundy inherited his ancestral rights that has been handed down through five generations in a direct line with the first generation being his great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt on his mothers side,who came from Salt Lake City Utah to settle in Bunkerville,NV sometime between 1853 when he married his wife Mary Huntsman to when he died in 1908 in Bunkerville (Cliven Bundy has claimed it was in 1877).
Cliven inherited his ancestral land rights from these ancestors in this order: Cliven's mother Margaret Bodel JENSON-Bundy - Cliven's grandmother,Margaret's mother,Abigail Christina ABBOTT-Jenson - Cliven's great grandmother,Mary Jane LEAVITT-Abbott. Abigail "Christina" Abbot-Jenson's mother, Cliven's great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt,Mary Jane Leavitt-Abbott's father.
This research was conducted here at the Rootsweb Ancestry website here:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? op=PED&db=dowfam3&id=I549063
How interesting! hehehehehehheehehe
Now ALL You Fence Sitters (whom I detest) can go back up to Ya'll's Fence and see how this thing shakes out before Ya'll take sides again!
And No, Smiley, TxBO, DHDQHLC and even FinneyQtrHorses, I am not directing these comments towards you folks. I understand and even respect those who oppose Cliven Bundy and believe Him to be wrong. 'You' folks have at least a spine! It is those 'cowardly vultures' who sit on the fence and await an outcome before committing to a side that make my skin crawl!
Remember, once again, there are those in The Media who oppose Bundy and their reporting and in this case their research shows their bias. | |
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| foundation horse - 2014-04-24 2:09 PM How interesting! hehehehehehheehehe
Now ALL You Fence Sitters (whom I detest) can go back up to Ya'll's Fence and see how this thing shakes out before Ya'll take sides again!
And No, Smiley, TxBO, DHDQHLC and even FinneyQtrHorses, I am not directing these comments towards you folks. I understand and even respect those who oppose Cliven Bundy and believe Him to be wrong. 'You' folks have at least a spine! It is those 'cowardly vultures' who sit on the fence and await an outcome before committing to a side that make my skin crawl!
Remember, once again, there are those in The Media who oppose Bundy and their reporting and in this case their research shows their bias.
With all due respect, FH, sitting on the fence until one can make an informed conscientious decision is too rare today.
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Location: North Texas | TXBO - 2014-04-24 2:28 PM
foundation horse - 2014-04-24 2:09 PM How interesting! hehehehehehheehehe
Now ALL You Fence Sitters (whom I detest) can go back up to Ya'll's Fence and see how this thing shakes out before Ya'll take sides again!
And No, Smiley, TxBO, DHDQHLC and even FinneyQtrHorses, I am not directing these comments towards you folks. I understand and even respect those who oppose Cliven Bundy and believe Him to be wrong. 'You' folks have at least a spine! It is those 'cowardly vultures' who sit on the fence and await an outcome before committing to a side that make my skin crawl!
Remember, once again, there are those in The Media who oppose Bundy and their reporting and in this case their research shows their bias.
With all due respect, FH, sitting on the fence until one can make an informed conscientious decicion is too rare today.
In the context you are describing 'Fence Sitting' works and is appropriate. BUT not in the context I am employing the use of said term. | |
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Location: ND | d*** you context!!!! d*** youuuuuuuuuuu........
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| musikmaker - 2014-04-24 1:30 "Early census records show Cliven's maternal grandmother,Christena Jensen,was born in Nevada in 1901. One genealogical researcher says records indicate Jensen helped settle Bunkerville some years later."
This is INACCURATE: (they even spelled her name wrong): Clive's maternal grandmother's name is Abigail Christina ABBOTT Jenson born 22 JAN 1891 Bunkerville,Clark Co.,NV
"Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt."
Raoul Leavitt was a decedent of Dudley Leavitt,Clive's great great grandfather. Clive's great grandmother Mary Jane Leavitt's father was Dudley Leavitt who is Cliven Bundy's great great grandfather,he married a woman from Utah,Mary Huntsman in 1853,and eventually (probably 1877 as Clive has been saying) they settled in Bunkerville NV until Dudley died there in 1908.
Cliven Bundy inherited his ancestral rights that has been handed down through five generations in a direct line with the first generation being his great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt on his mothers side,who came from Salt Lake City Utah to settle in Bunkerville,NV sometime between 1853 when he married his wife Mary Huntsman to when he died in 1908 in Bunkerville (Cliven Bundy has claimed it was in 1877).
Cliven inherited his ancestral land rights from these ancestors in this order: Cliven's mother Margaret Bodel JENSON-Bundy - Cliven's grandmother,Margaret's mother,Abigail Christina ABBOTT-Jenson - Cliven's great grandmother,Mary Jane LEAVITT-Abbott. Abigail "Christina" Abbot-Jenson's mother, Cliven's great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt,Mary Jane Leavitt-Abbott's father.
This research was conducted here at the Rootsweb Ancestry website here:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? op=PED&db=dowfam3&id=I549063
It seems like everything has documentation except his ancestrial rights to graze half a million acres of Nevada.
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Location: ND | TXBO - 2014-04-24 2:35 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-24 1:30
"Early census records show Cliven's maternal grandmother,Christena Jensen,was born in Nevada in 1901. One genealogical researcher says records indicate Jensen helped settle Bunkerville some years later."
This is INACCURATE: (they even spelled her name wrong): Clive's maternal grandmother's name is Abigail Christina ABBOTT Jenson born 22 JAN 1891 Bunkerville,Clark Co.,NV
"Clark County property records show Cliven Bundy's parents moved from Bundyville, Arizona and bought the 160 acre ranch in 1948 from Raoul and Ruth Leavitt."
Raoul Leavitt was a decedent of Dudley Leavitt,Clive's great great grandfather. Clive's great grandmother Mary Jane Leavitt's father was Dudley Leavitt who is Cliven Bundy's great great grandfather,he married a woman from Utah,Mary Huntsman in 1853,and eventually (probably 1877 as Clive has been saying) they settled in Bunkerville NV until Dudley died there in 1908.
Cliven Bundy inherited his ancestral rights that has been handed down through five generations in a direct line with the first generation being his great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt on his mothers side,who came from Salt Lake City Utah to settle in Bunkerville,NV sometime between 1853 when he married his wife Mary Huntsman to when he died in 1908 in Bunkerville (Cliven Bundy has claimed it was in 1877).
Cliven inherited his ancestral land rights from these ancestors in this order: Cliven's mother Margaret Bodel JENSON-Bundy - Cliven's grandmother,Margaret's mother,Abigail Christina ABBOTT-Jenson - Cliven's great grandmother,Mary Jane LEAVITT-Abbott. Abigail "Christina" Abbot-Jenson's mother, Cliven's great great grandfather Dudley Leavitt,Mary Jane Leavitt-Abbott's father.
This research was conducted here at the Rootsweb Ancestry website here:
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi? op=PED&db=dowfam3&id=I549063
It seems like everything has documentation except is ancestrial rights to graze half a million acres of Nevada.
600,000.....puuuuhleeez get your context straight..... | |
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Location: ND | TXBO..,....you can't just rewrite context......the evidence is still there.....lol | |
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| dhdqhllc - 2014-04-24 2:36 PM 600,000.....puuuuhleeez get your context straight.....
LMAO!
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| dhdqhllc - 2014-04-24 2:37 PM TXBO..,....you can't just rewrite context......the evidence is still there.....lol
If the let Clive get away with this, I'm going to squat 500,000 acres in Utah.
Musik, throw a steak on the swing for me. I'm coming to claim our land. LOL! | |
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Location: ND | TXBO - 2014-04-24 2:38 PM dhdqhllc - 2014-04-24 2:36 PM 600,000.....puuuuhleeez get your context straight..... LMAO!
well....i mean seriously....if he only had a half a million acres, he would be overgrazing....... | |
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| musikmaker - 2014-04-24 11:11 AM smiley - 2014-04-24 11:03 AM Yes, it does, IMO, the BLM showed in force based on previous encounters with this family and the fact that the family and others were protesting and asked for and rec'd "others" via militias and oath keepers.
Yes, HIS lies matter. He put REAL people - people who believed him in danger...........you're ability to let him off the hook is kinda annoying to be honest.
There is no doubt Reid is pond scum, but as Finney said - the two are not related. One does not negate the other.
Anyhow...I just watched this video & I think it's by far the best summary of what is going on in our world...please watch. There are some great things that can come from this...we really don't need to be at each other's throats...it does the world no good & if ANY good can come from this...it needs to.
We all get to meet our Maker someday...in doing so we get to meet 'self'. Mercy.
This is good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t84xLD2KbO4
Another uneducated soul. TXBO has already shown us the very consititution of Nevada, that clearly this public servant has never read.
He is wrong.
WHY does everyone who supports this think that things only change in life for "other people" and not them. Oh, Taylor Grazing Act - all done without "compensation to the American Rancher."
WHAT?? You think the American Rancher should be compensated due to the Taylor Grazing ACT??????????
I stopped there.
The bottom line is that the land is fed land - bottom LINE - and this man was using it illegally. This guy in this video needs an email from me but who has that kind of time.  | |
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| smiley - 2014-04-24 1:50 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-24 11:11 AM smiley - 2014-04-24 11:03 AM Yes, it does, IMO, the BLM showed in force based on previous encounters with this family and the fact that the family and others were protesting and asked for and rec'd "others" via militias and oath keepers.
Yes, HIS lies matter. He put REAL people - people who believed him in danger...........you're ability to let him off the hook is kinda annoying to be honest.
There is no doubt Reid is pond scum, but as Finney said - the two are not related. One does not negate the other.
Anyhow...I just watched this video & I think it's by far the best summary of what is going on in our world...please watch. There are some great things that can come from this...we really don't need to be at each other's throats...it does the world no good & if ANY good can come from this...it needs to.
We all get to meet our Maker someday...in doing so we get to meet 'self'. Mercy.
This is good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t84xLD2KbO4
He is wrong.
WHY does everyone who supports this think that things only change in life for "other people" and not them. Oh, Taylor Grazing Act - all done without "compensation to the American Rancher."
WHAT?? You think the American Rancher should be compensated due to the Taylor Grazing ACT??????????
I stopped there.
The bottom line is that the land is fed land - bottom LINE - and this man was using it illegally. This guy in this video needs an email from me but who has that kind of time.
Okay, I gave him a few more minutes, time I'll never get back.
The BLM is run by elected officials folks - CONGRESS and the PRESIDENT.
And Field and State offices and the directors of those offices have a LOT of leeway in what they choose to do in their areas.
He compared this to MLK?
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Location: ND | *** ****....everyone needs to stop interjecting more **** context...... | |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I can't believe anyone would take anything that the crooks and liars blog to be the truth. They are a very left leaning rag that gets a lot of their info from the greats like of Rachel Madcow and Chris Matthews.. LOL | |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | TXBO - 2014-04-24 1:42 PM dhdqhllc - 2014-04-24 2:37 PM TXBO..,....you can't just rewrite context......the evidence is still there.....lol If the let Clive get away with this, I'm going to squat 500,000 acres in Utah.
Musik, throw a steak on the swing for me. I'm coming to claim our land. LOL!
It still works in Florida! Lmao...
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/soldier-in-battle-to-rid-home-of-squatters--florida-sheriff%E2%80%99s-office-says-it-can%E2%80%99t-do-anything-210607842.html
(the meat's always swingin at the Hat)...
BTW : Florida, Louisiana, Alabama...et al...have basically the same 'enabling acts' as the western states...the difference being that the gov't honored those...we only want the same consideration! And we'll get it!
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | smiley - 2014-04-24 1:53 PM smiley - 2014-04-24 1:50 PM musikmaker - 2014-04-24 11:11 AM smiley - 2014-04-24 11:03 AM Yes, it does, IMO, the BLM showed in force based on previous encounters with this family and the fact that the family and others were protesting and asked for and rec'd "others" via militias and oath keepers.
Yes, HIS lies matter. He put REAL people - people who believed him in danger...........you're ability to let him off the hook is kinda annoying to be honest.
There is no doubt Reid is pond scum, but as Finney said - the two are not related. One does not negate the other.
Anyhow...I just watched this video & I think it's by far the best summary of what is going on in our world...please watch. There are some great things that can come from this...we really don't need to be at each other's throats...it does the world no good & if ANY good can come from this...it needs to.
We all get to meet our Maker someday...in doing so we get to meet 'self'. Mercy.
This is good...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=t84xLD2KbO4
He is wrong.
WHY does everyone who supports this think that things only change in life for "other people" and not them. Oh, Taylor Grazing Act - all done without "compensation to the American Rancher."
WHAT?? You think the American Rancher should be compensated due to the Taylor Grazing ACT??????????
I stopped there.
The bottom line is that the land is fed land - bottom LINE - and this man was using it illegally. This guy in this video needs an email from me but who has that kind of time.
The BLM is run by elected officials folks - CONGRESS and the PRESIDENT.
And Field and State offices and the directors of those offices have a LOT of leeway in what they choose to do in their areas.
He compared this to MLK?
UGH. Another tool.
Yup...and it's past time that they started making the policy vs allowing non-elected yahoos use their 'own discrecion'. THAT is wrong...
About state consitutions, if it gave untold power to the fed and/or threatened the inalienable rights of the individual then it should be repealed...easily.
Check out the 'enabling acts' of Florida, Louisiana, Araknsaw, Alabama...these western states weren't the 1st, our enabling acts were modeled after those, yet, the land is still held in trust...is this how we want our gov't to be ran? Inequality...hmmm...seems like that word just won't go away.
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Location: North Texas | It would appear the The Nevada State Constitution and 43 U.S.C Section 1733 are conflict of each other. Section 1733 states in effect The BLM should resolve all legal matters as locally as possible.
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Location: North Texas | foundation horse - 2014-04-24 3:33 PM
It would appear the The Nevada State Constitution and 43 U.S.C Section 1733 are conflict of each other. Section 1733 states in effect The BLM should resolve all legal matters as locally as possible.
https://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=explorer&srcid=0BzoGoAqOi9feSHhkd...
Grrr! I cannot seem to be able to C&P the rest of the article.
However here is a live link to read it for ya'll's selves.
http://www.westernjournalism.com/congressman-pens-letter-obama-blas... | |
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