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YeeHaw - 2011-02-10 8:36 PM I talked to Ryon a few times today. He is getting stronger everyday.....his voice even sounds stronger. He sat up in a chair today for 2 hours, that had his back and shoulders hurting, so he was complaining of pain and waiting on some pain meds when I talked to him last.
Matthew 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.
(YeeHaw: posted on page 15)
Many, MANY prayers of thanksgiving and continued healing....for all of you.
thank you all for your continued prayers.......please keep them going up, we are still needing them.......
Just talked to Ryon, and this morning the dr came in and told him about the 4 broken vertabrae in his back. ????????what????? the first any of us had heard of it. and now the "he don't have no insurance" is kicking in.
Will try to keep everyone informed.
from me: i am having trouble making the reply things work.
i keep thinking of your family and your son. it sounds great that he has tingles and some things are looking up. i just was looking for an update on his spinal fractures. is he in a body splint to keep things in alignment? they have some really neat splints from the hips to the shoulders that are removable, but can be put on when up out of bed. continued prayers.
edited cuz i can't spell this am.
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Location: I'll worry about that tomorrow | neverwas - 2011-02-14 3:57 AM srs - 2011-02-10 9:31 PM YeeHaw - 2011-02-10 8:36 PM I talked to Ryon a few times today. He is getting stronger everyday.....his voice even sounds stronger. He sat up in a chair today for 2 hours, that had his back and shoulders hurting, so he was complaining of pain and waiting on some pain meds when I talked to him last. Matthew 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble. (YeeHaw: posted on page 15) Many, MANY prayers of thanksgiving and continued healing....for all of you. thank you all for your continued prayers.......please keep them going up, we are still needing them....... Just talked to Ryon, and this morning the dr came in and told him about the 4 broken vertabrae in his back. ????????what????? the first any of us had heard of it. and now the "he don't have no insurance" is kicking in. Will try to keep everyone informed. from me: i am having trouble making the reply things work. i keep thinking of your family and your son. it sounds great that he has tingles and some things are looking up. i just was looking for an update on his spinal fractures. is he in a body splint to keep things in alignment? they have some really neat splints from the hips to the shoulders that are removable, but can be put on when up out of bed. continued prayers. edited cuz i can't spell this am.
Nothing else was mentioned over the weekend about the "four" broken vertebrae that were "inoperable". De is planning on questioning the doctors about this today. And, no, Ryon is not in a splint or cast & they're moving him around and sitting him up in a chair. This has us all baffled, but maybe there will be some clarification today.
As S.G. said to me, "knowledge is power"......so I've been working on the computer trying to figure out exactly what steps need to be taken so Ryon can get assistance to pay for everything. Trying to figure this out is unbelievably hard. Of course, his social worker at the hospital should be on top of this, but De won't know anything until she gets a chance to talk to them.....hopefully today.
Anybody with ideas, please let us know. Since Ryon has a Texas address, that's where they will have to apply for assistance. If he qualifies for medicaid, will it cover the rehabilitation that he needs? What about the Texas Rehabilitation Commission....how long is their waiting list...and will they cover what is needed? On and on....so, again, if you have ideas we would love to hear them.
Funny how you don't know what to do until something like this hits home. Just makes you feel so helpless.
Thank you again and again for your prayers!
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Location: I'll worry about that tomorrow | Update....
Ryon is having trouble breathing this morning.
Prayers that this will clear up very soon! I can't even imagine trying to breathe with a paralyzed diaphragm.
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Location: I'll worry about that tomorrow | Breathing is much better. De realized that his airbed had been turned off. : ( Things like that are so frustrating! However, we are extremely thankful that he is breathing better. | |
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If he is expected to be disabled or incapacitated for at least twelve months or more he could file for social security disability. In order to qualify he has to have been disabled for a period of twelve months or expected to be disabled for a period of twelve months or more as far as the medical goes. As far as his eligibility based on his quarters paid in to the system is another factor, but if he's been working for a while he should be fine. Since this is an accident and he has recently had surgery they would probably do a 3 month hold on the application as is the policy anytime after someone has had certain surgeries and then evaluate his case at the end of the 3 months to see what his prognosis would be. I used to process and make the medical decision on disability claims for social security. Social security has very rigid guidelines on disability so it may not work, but anything is worth a shot. He will definitely have to meet that twelve month requirement, but I would think with an injury like that it will take at least twelve months to recover.
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Location: Here | Yaya - 2011-02-14 5:27 AM neverwas - 2011-02-14 3:57 AM srs - 2011-02-10 9:31 PM YeeHaw - 2011-02-10 8:36 PM I talked to Ryon a few times today. He is getting stronger everyday.....his voice even sounds stronger. He sat up in a chair today for 2 hours, that had his back and shoulders hurting, so he was complaining of pain and waiting on some pain meds when I talked to him last. Matthew 6:34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about its own things. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble. (YeeHaw: posted on page 15) Many, MANY prayers of thanksgiving and continued healing....for all of you. thank you all for your continued prayers.......please keep them going up, we are still needing them....... Just talked to Ryon, and this morning the dr came in and told him about the 4 broken vertabrae in his back. ????????what????? the first any of us had heard of it. and now the "he don't have no insurance" is kicking in. Will try to keep everyone informed. from me: i am having trouble making the reply things work. i keep thinking of your family and your son. it sounds great that he has tingles and some things are looking up. i just was looking for an update on his spinal fractures. is he in a body splint to keep things in alignment? they have some really neat splints from the hips to the shoulders that are removable, but can be put on when up out of bed. continued prayers. edited cuz i can't spell this am. Nothing else was mentioned over the weekend about the "four" broken vertebrae that were "inoperable". De is planning on questioning the doctors about this today. And, no, Ryon is not in a splint or cast & they're moving him around and sitting him up in a chair. This has us all baffled, but maybe there will be some clarification today.
As S.G. said to me, "knowledge is power"......so I've been working on the computer trying to figure out exactly what steps need to be taken so Ryon can get assistance to pay for everything. Trying to figure this out is unbelievably hard. Of course, his social worker at the hospital should be on top of this, but De won't know anything until she gets a chance to talk to them.....hopefully today.
Anybody with ideas, please let us know. Since Ryon has a Texas address, that's where they will have to apply for assistance. If he qualifies for medicaid, will it cover the rehabilitation that he needs? What about the Texas Rehabilitation Commission....how long is their waiting list...and will they cover what is needed? On and on....so, again, if you have ideas we would love to hear them.
Funny how you don't know what to do until something like this hits home. Just makes you feel so helpless.
Thank you again and again for your prayers!
I have been thinking about this post all day
The DRIVER that hit him he is RESPONSIBLE for these bills!!!!! That is what the medical and liability is for on his insurance and if he doesn't have auto insurance then he needs to go to jail!
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Location: Here | Yes go ahead and get the ball rolling on disability you just have to prove he will be disabled for at least 6 months
YOu can do it all online!!!!
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Location: /ARKANSAS | If it is a motor vehicle accident and the other person is at fault,That fact is primary at all times, nothing else can kick in or help. Get a good personal injury lawyer or the other insurance adjustor will give you a hard time. Don't sign or settle on anything. You think you can handle all this, but in this day and age sadly you can't,. the lawyer will get a percentage of what is awarded to Ryon, but to protect his future you have to go slowly, if he is 18? 21? Call a good personal injury lawyer. I cannot tell you how important this is. | |
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Location: I'll worry about that tomorrow | SG. - 2011-02-14 6:05 PM Yes go ahead and get the ball rolling on disability you just have to prove he will be disabled for at least 6 months
YOu can do it all online!!!!
THEN when you are on disability for 12 months then you become eligible for medicare
Believe it or not, they would not take this over the phone.....they wanted to speak to Ryon. My question was: "What the heck would they do if Ryon couldn't speak?" Anyway, yes, they said to fill out the application online....would have to be sitting with Ryon so that he could answer questions. Problem is that they don't have a computer in the room yet. Hopefully, they can get this taken care of soon. | |
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Location: Here | Yaya - 2011-02-14 6:35 PM SG. - 2011-02-14 6:05 PM Yes go ahead and get the ball rolling on disability you just have to prove he will be disabled for at least 6 months
YOu can do it all online!!!!
THEN when you are on disability for 12 months then you become eligible for medicare Believe it or not, they would not take this over the phone.....they wanted to speak to Ryon. My question was: "What the heck would they do if Ryon couldn't speak?" Anyway, yes, they said to fill out the application online....would have to be sitting with Ryon so that he could answer questions. Problem is that they don't have a computer in the room yet. Hopefully, they can get this taken care of soon.
You can fill it out for him, it will have a spot that says is someone filling this out for you
His Social worker can do this
His mom can do this
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Location: Here | fastwrapn3 - 2011-02-14 6:20 PM If it is a motor vehicle accident and the other person is at fault,That fact is primary at all times, nothing else can kick in or help. Get a good personal injury lawyer or the other insurance adjustor will give you a hard time. Don't sign or settle on anything. You think you can handle all this, but in this day and age sadly you can't,. the lawyer will get a percentage of what is awarded to Ryon, but to protect his future you have to go slowly, if he is 18? 21? Call a good personal injury lawyer. I cannot tell you how important this is.
YES do it now
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| Yaya - 2011-02-14 6:35 PM SG. - 2011-02-14 6:05 PM Yes go ahead and get the ball rolling on disability you just have to prove he will be disabled for at least 6 months
YOu can do it all online!!!!
THEN when you are on disability for 12 months then you become eligible for medicare Believe it or not, they would not take this over the phone.....they wanted to speak to Ryon. My question was: "What the heck would they do if Ryon couldn't speak?" Anyway, yes, they said to fill out the application online....would have to be sitting with Ryon so that he could answer questions. Problem is that they don't have a computer in the room yet. Hopefully, they can get this taken care of soon.
As I said earlier, I used to work for social security in their disability adjudication services department processing these very claims day end and day out. The social security has very rigid rules and we were monitored constantly. We were not even allowed to talk to someone's spouse unless we had documented verbal confirmation that it was allowed or had it in writing, most of us followed this rule and there are some that always felt weird doing it, but it was a rule and it could cost you your job. They can't take an application over the phone unless they can speak to the applicant directly or get verbal consent from the applicant to speak with someone else on their behalf. If he couldn't speak then that would be different, someone could speak for him, but once he was able to speak again, they would want to talk with him. We dealt with this everyday with stroke patients. Online is the way to go, they will call if they need additional information. Once they are done with it at the field office he will be contacted by a disability adjudicator and they will start the process of requesting all his medical records and getting background info and send him lots of lovely paperwork to fill out. On the application it will ask that he list all the jobs he has had for the last 15 years, make sure this is completed as much as possible, they really want the type of jobs he had, how long he was at each job and his specific duties at his job, if this is done in the beginning it will save from receiving a document similar to it in the mail weeks later asking him to complete it again in more detail, lol.
I'm not sure SG where you got those numbers from and please don't take this as me arguing with you, I know you didn't just pull those out of a hat and have a basis for them. I just wanted to state that it is a federal program and the guidelines are the same no matter what state you are in. The social security's legal definition of a disability is that a person must have a physical and/or mental impairment that has lasted or is expected to last for a period of twelve months or longer or expected to result in death. This definition was used to assess all of our cases. I just recently quit working for them but this was the policy when I worked there. He will need proof via a doctor's assessment that he will be disabled for at least twelve months and medicare will kick in after 18 months. Like I said before he will probably be put on a 3 month medical deferment and then evaluated, but that won't really delay anything since there is a 5 month waiting period before you can receive benefits anyhow. This is all information for Title II disability which is the one you receive from working and paying FICA. The other program is Title IV and it is subject to income and resource limits and is available to those who have never worked and are disabled or who once worked but haven't worked enough qualifying quarters or didn't work a job where it was considered substantial gainful employment, etc.
Oddly enough, I used to work personal injury as well and yes, for a case like this, please seek out the best personal injury attorney in the state.
As far as the disability, if he gets denied, and don't believe the rumors about being denied three times before getting approved, he very well could get approved the first time out, tell him to file a reconsideration instead of filing a new application. Filing a reconsideration will protect his original application date, etc. Believe it or not we always encouraged reconsiderations as they protect the applicant and you never know when someone may have made an error and it gets discovered on recon. or his condition has changed and now he meets a different criteria.
I surely hope this helps, sorry so long, just wanted to give the most information possible.
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Location: Here | No offense...  It was what I read on their website. I know you have to be disabled for 6 months for it get started and it has to last at least 12. Sorry I wasn't clear on that... But you need to get it started now on the application process so that you can have everything ready in place.
But I know guidelines also vary some from state to state... But Yaya, please tell De to get thist started asap.!!!
http://www.ssa.gov/applyfordisability/
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10029.html
CONtinued prayers for Ryon! and for Momma De
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Ok, thanks, I was curious. You know I didn't even know that was on their site, I worked for the DAS, used to be the DDS or is still called that in some states. Anyhow, those are great links you posted for them, they give a lot of great detail about the process without filling up the page like I did, hehe!!
Yes, SG is right, please start this asap!! This can be done separately from any personal injury claim, I had claimants that had pending Worker's Compensation claims and we were still able to process their claim.
Ok, I'm done now back to what this post is for, my thoughts are with Ryon and his mom!! | |
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