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Hock Injections.. What to expect.. ??

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Rustynailfl
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2013-11-25 9:21 AM
Subject: Hock Injections.. What to expect.. ??




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I believe my horse may be having hock issues. For the past year he has developed a few different things that all sort of point to him maybe needing them injected. He is a 11yo Gelding.

He has developed gate issues, which he never had before. And around that same time he has started to not 'sit' himself for the turn and is coming off the barrel. He is one that is normally right on top of them. Our times have changed drastically from 2D times (has even ran in the 1D a few times) to 3D even 4D at times.

I spoke with someone this weekend about it as they inject their horse to find out how they know/knew she needed them and when it was time. Everything she said described my horse exactly.

My questions is, what are some things I can expect with this procedure? I also treated him for ulcers and gave him a good 3 months off with no change.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-11-25 9:26 AM
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have xrays but truth be known my one geldings xrays were clean .. and yet all signs pointed to hocks so we injected.. sure enough fluid was clear and not alot of it if any .. he was a differant horse after... failed flex test ..

he wil be stalled 24 hours .. some dont some do.. I prefer to let them off work for  4 -5 days..then slow work.. then normal.. within a few weeks you should notice a differance..not sure where you are at in florida.. make sure your vet is a GOOD one.. and its a clean area to work in . 


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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2013-11-25 9:28 AM
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 I would pull xrays and have a full lameness exam to make sure it's the hocks, and to check how bad they are and what hock joints

If it's the lower hocks, it's not a big deal. Sedate, scrub, inject, 3 days stall rest/hand walking, then work your way back up to normal over the next 4 days

That's a conservative protocol...I normally stall one day, ride on day 4, then run/hard work after day 7. On the trotter track they are back racing on day 3

I do depo in the lower hocks. Its efficacy peaks around 10 days. usually lasts 3-6 months on average.


 
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Rustynailfl
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2013-11-25 9:37 AM
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Bibliafarm - 2013-11-25 10:26 AM

have xrays but truth be known my one geldings xrays were clean .. and yet all signs pointed to hocks so we injected.. sure enough fluid was clear and not alot of it if any .. he was a differant horse after... failed flex test ..

he wil be stalled 24 hours .. some dont some do.. I prefer to let them off work for  4 -5 days..then slow work.. then normal.. within a few weeks you should notice a differance..not sure where you are at in florida.. make sure your vet is a GOOD one.. and its a clean area to work in . 

I am in S. Florida, any one you would recommend in this area?

Thanks!
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2013-11-25 9:51 AM
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I used Palm Beach Equine Clinic. by showgrounds but not sure the vets there now.. in ocala.. Dr .Craig Roberts .

maybe other bbs can post as well.
does your vet do it? 


 
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Rustynailfl
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2013-11-25 9:59 AM
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Bibliafarm - 2013-11-25 10:51 AM

I used Palm Beach Equine Clinic. by showgrounds but not sure the vets there now.. in ocala.. Dr .Craig Roberts .

maybe other bbs can post as well.
does your vet do it? 


 

A few people have recommended Dr. Steel in Zolfo
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2013-11-25 10:21 AM
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The thing a lot of people don't realize is that even though they will feel better by that first run back, most of them don't "know" they are going to feel better. He may still act up in the gate, and he may still clock slower, but give him a few runs back to get over it mentally and realize they aren't going to hurt when he turns that barrel like he's supposed to.
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SC Wrangler
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2013-11-25 10:55 AM
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BamaCanChaser - 2013-11-25 10:21 AM The thing a lot of people don't realize is that even though they will feel better by that first run back, most of them don't "know" they are going to feel better. He may still act up in the gate, and he may still clock slower, but give him a few runs back to get over it mentally and realize they aren't going to hurt when he turns that barrel like he's supposed to.
Good point.  A lot of times the longer the horse has been hurting the longer it is going to take to get them back on track.

We have a gelding that is routinely injected about every 9 months.  The quality of fluid in one hock is poor and the other basically has no fluid.  When it gets close to time to inject he begins to get trashy in the gate and his turns are not as round as ususal.  He tends to cut off his pockets on the backside. 

First run back you will get the gate issue but it is like he makes that first turn and realizes he is not uncomfortable and all is good from that point.

We never let the injections go when he tells it is time.  Ignoring the signs would lead to bigger issues not only physically, but mentally.

Edited to add, We are extremely picky not only who injects for us but where it is done.  I don't think you can every be too picky about the sanitation of the enviorment or the prep work. 


Edited by SC Wrangler 2013-11-25 11:00 AM
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Rustynailfl
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2013-11-25 12:54 PM
Subject: RE: Hock Injections.. What to expect.. ??




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SC Wrangler - 2013-11-25 11:55 AM

BamaCanChaser - 2013-11-25 10:21 AM The thing a lot of people don't realize is that even though they will feel better by that first run back, most of them don't "know" they are going to feel better. He may still act up in the gate, and he may still clock slower, but give him a few runs back to get over it mentally and realize they aren't going to hurt when he turns that barrel like he's supposed to.
Good point.  A lot of times the longer the horse has been hurting the longer it is going to take to get them back on track.

We have a gelding that is routinely injected about every 9 months.  The quality of fluid in one hock is poor and the other basically has no fluid.  When it gets close to time to inject he begins to get trashy in the gate and his turns are not as round as ususal.  He tends to cut off his pockets on the backside. 

First run back you will get the gate issue but it is like he makes that first turn and realizes he is not uncomfortable and all is good from that point.

We never let the injections go when he tells it is time.  Ignoring the signs would lead to bigger issues not only physically, but mentally.

Edited to add, We are extremely picky not only who injects for us but where it is done.  I don't think you can every be too picky about the sanitation of the enviorment or the prep work. 

Yes that definitely makes sense. I had him chiropracted a while ago and she said the same thing about that. He was out in a bunch of places so thought that may have been his issue but saw no change.
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