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| I have drove 5 hrs for a Ed clinic twice and it was well worth it. Yes he is honest but I guarantee that if you pay attention and he thinks you are really there to learn he will give you 200 percent. On the other hand if you want to argue with him he won't. Yes you can ask him why this or that but argue with him. To put it simple he will put into it just as much as you want to put into it. |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | I've been taking 1-2 Sharon clinics a year for 5 or so years now. The difference in my riding, training, and competitive mind is unbelievable. Her program works for every horse and rider out there, as long as you're willing to listen and learn. She's a fantastic, talented woman.
On a side note, I took a dena clinic last spring and will never attend another. I consider myself to be "Sharon trained" and dena's clinic was a waste of money IMO. You get what you pay for with Sharon. Long, tiring days. But guess what -- that's what it takes to improve! |
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Location: nj | I have seen Sharon work with alot of students on seasoned horses and improve them also, so I don't understand the comment on here about that. If you were the one putting on the Ed W clinic, I think you are very close to the horse park where the clinic will be held in April. If you horse is in shape to go... I don't know why you would be hesitating to go to her clinic then. I do know that they are getting a number of people signing up for it already and there is limited space - so if you are looking to go you should probably reach out to Erica. And yes I have been to quite a few on 4 different horses over the years - will be at the one in April at the horse park with my new horse and looking forward to it already! |
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| I attended my first Sharon and Storme Camarillo clinic during the fall, 2013.
It is the BEST thing that I've done for myself (or my horse) in a long time.
I'm a newer barrel racer and found the two teaching styles of Sharon and Storme worked well for me. Sharon is technical and looking for perfection, while Storme is practical and can re-teach what Sharon says for those of us who don't get it the first time.
I enjoyed my weekend immensly and would do it again in a heartbreat.
I would consider more recent clinic attendee's responses more than those who attended years ago...give people a chance to learn and change. Teaching is the hardest job ...it's a skill learned over time and many are not naturals at it. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Thank you everyone for your responses! I will certainly take all of your experiences into consideration when I make my decision on which clinic to attend this coming year. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | diggerdoo - 2013-12-14 10:29 PM Ed Wright doesn't sugarcoat anything but at least he is respectful to the people who pay him to help them. I feel like I could have been at the same Sharon clinic as Swannranch, but since I live 800 miles from Florida, I'm sure I wasn't. I, too, will refrain from going into details publicly, but her personality obviously remains constant, which is not meant as a compliment. I quit listening when when my ears catch on fire. At least she had to stand by me and smile for the picture of me and my beautiful saddle from the Eastern Classic that year. HOOAH!!!
Was that this year? I did attend the open barrel race held on Sunday of the Camarillo (or East Coast-whatever it was called!) Classic. That show ran waaaaaaaaay late but there was alot going on in the morning before the Open. |
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Location: rabbit run | fulltiltfilly - 2013-12-15 8:12 AM diggerdoo - 2013-12-14 10:29 PM Ed Wright doesn't sugarcoat anything but at least he is respectful to the people who pay him to help them. I feel like I could have been at the same Sharon clinic as Swannranch, but since I live 800 miles from Florida, I'm sure I wasn't. I, too, will refrain from going into details publicly, but her personality obviously remains constant, which is not meant as a compliment. I quit listening when when my ears catch on fire. At least she had to stand by me and smile for the picture of me and my beautiful saddle from the Eastern Classic that year. HOOAH!!! Was that this year? I did attend the open barrel race held on Sunday of the Camarillo (or East Coast-whatever it was called!) Classic. That show ran waaaaaaaaay late but there was alot going on in the morning before the Open.
No, it was at the Eastern Classic in Sterling Illinois about 10 years ago. |
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Location: Oklahoma City OK | I went to a Sharon Camarillo clinic a kazillion years ago when I was in the Arabian industry and they were offering an "invitational" Arabian Barrel Race at the Nationals that year. It was my most successful year ever at the Arab Nationals and even though I was associated with one of the top Arabian trainers in the country, my success had a lot to do with the HORSEMANSHIP skills and exercises that Sharon taught me and that I used on all three horses that I took to the Nationals. I hauled in to her clinic with a "prissy little Arabian gelding" and she gave me and him as much respect as if I was the top WPRA barrel racer. She is a true horseman and an intelligent lady and I would go to her clinic again. I have gone to Ed Wright's and he reminds me a lot of her in dedication and intensity, though their training styles are very different. You can learn from ANYONE if you decide to take advantage of their wisdom and experience and don't go looking for pats on the back. |
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| I am not sure where you are located in New Jersey- but I believe WrapNSnap is located somewhere out east - and if you could connect with him, he has a tremendous amount of knowledge to offer - maybe not a full clinic setting, but if you could ride with him for a few weekends, I bet he could offer you some very good advice.
The hardest part about attending a clinic is 1 - the expense, 2 - the people - waiting around for other riders to do the drills and if some are beginning riders, makes for a long day and 3- the clinicians - they get tired by the end of the day and sometimes their patience wains.
I attended six Camarillo clinics and I am done with her, will never attend another one. I now ride with colt starters/trainers, and reiners, and I have learned more from them about the very fine details - my private lessons and the money spent has put me farther ahead than attending a clinic for a weekend. |
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | Swannranch - 2013-12-14 8:22 PM
I won't even buy a bit with her name on it. It was one of the worst experiences I have ever been to. No only unorganized, hours and hours of wasted time, she was cruel.
I'm not talking about just strong words, and corrections. I mean just out right cruel. She told an 11 year old girl her horse should go to bar-b-q. Our clinic started with 20 on Friday, by Sunday they were down to 14. Grown women who were good at what they did left and said they would never come back. Sharon told me herself (she knew I was angry) that if it were up to her, she would never run an open clinic. She prefers to work with advanced level barrel racers and would like to require a "qualifying" race to attend her clinics, but her sponsors would not allow anything like that.
We were there to learn, not be insulted and made fun of. She seemed to pick a couple of people to "attack" more than others. Also, this was my opinion, not fact, but it seemed the people with the biggest trucks and trailers were her special friends. If you were there in an old truck and trailer, she did not want to even pay attention to you.
The clinic coordinator profussly appologised to me multiple times. We stayed, but I swore then I would tell anyone and everyone that ever asked exactally what happened and why I would NEVER recommend her to anyone.
I didn't even go into detail here about things that happened, but I would be glad to.
Since then have been to several, with very critical coaches and they were respectful and honest. Not cruel and rude.
Good Luck, however I would never waste my money. Which is what she told me I did when I asked why they told me children were welcome? The group was about 50/50 children/adult. One child left the others were grown women and at least 1 of them qualified for WPRA Circut finals a few years after that. So I'm not talking about poor riders that could not handle being corrected.
I agree with this 100%. That and she isn't all she thinks she is either. She told me that a chain mouth piece was the one of the harshest mouth pieces. When I went to say it wasn't she glared at me and told me I was wrong.....after she called me fat and asked if I rode 3-D horses I was done...... I stayed but if it wasn't for friends I wouldn't have. RUDE and out dated!! |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Firewater - 2013-12-16 10:55 AM I am not sure where you are located in New Jersey- but I believe WrapNSnap is located somewhere out east - and if you could connect with him, he has a tremendous amount of knowledge to offer - maybe not a full clinic setting, but if you could ride with him for a few weekends, I bet he could offer you some very good advice.
The hardest part about attending a clinic is 1 - the expense, 2 - the people - waiting around for other riders to do the drills and if some are beginning riders, makes for a long day and 3- the clinicians - they get tired by the end of the day and sometimes their patience wains.
I attended six Camarillo clinics and I am done with her, will never attend another one. I now ride with colt starters/trainers, and reiners, and I have learned more from them about the very fine details - my private lessons and the money spent has put me farther ahead than attending a clinic for a weekend.
Wrapnsnap is about 2 1/2 hours from me. While it would cost more in fuel to go see him (then the lesson itself) I have been considering it. I just hate to trailer all that way for only a 1 hour lesson.
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Location: CA | whohasaplan - 2013-12-16 10:31 AM Swannranch - 2013-12-14 8:22 PM I won't even buy a bit with her name on it. It was one of the worst experiences I have ever been to. No only unorganized, hours and hours of wasted time, she was cruel.
I'm not talking about just strong words, and corrections. I mean just out right cruel. She told an 11 year old girl her horse should go to bar-b-q. Our clinic started with 20 on Friday, by Sunday they were down to 14. Grown women who were good at what they did left and said they would never come back. Sharon told me herself (she knew I was angry) that if it were up to her, she would never run an open clinic. She prefers to work with advanced level barrel racers and would like to require a "qualifying" race to attend her clinics, but her sponsors would not allow anything like that.
We were there to learn, not be insulted and made fun of. She seemed to pick a couple of people to "attack" more than others. Also, this was my opinion, not fact, but it seemed the people with the biggest trucks and trailers were her special friends. If you were there in an old truck and trailer, she did not want to even pay attention to you.
The clinic coordinator profussly appologised to me multiple times. We stayed, but I swore then I would tell anyone and everyone that ever asked exactally what happened and why I would NEVER recommend her to anyone.
I didn't even go into detail here about things that happened, but I would be glad to.
Since then have been to several, with very critical coaches and they were respectful and honest. Not cruel and rude.
Good Luck, however I would never waste my money. Which is what she told me I did when I asked why they told me children were welcome? The group was about 50/50 children/adult. One child left the others were grown women and at least 1 of them qualified for WPRA Circut finals a few years after that. So I'm not talking about poor riders that could not handle being corrected. I agree with this 100%. That and she isn't all she thinks she is either. She told me that a chain mouth piece was the one of the harshest mouth pieces. When I went to say it wasn't she glared at me and told me I was wrong.....after she called me fat and asked if I rode 3-D horses I was done...... I stayed but if it wasn't for friends I wouldn't have. RUDE and out dated!!
She is the closest I ever got to stepping off my horse and pounding her into the dirt. If you know me you would see how ****ed I must have been. She picked on certain people, and really made an ass out of herself often. When I went it was Shirly that actually taught me anything. Sharon just stood in the middle of the arena and told us all what a bunch of losers we were. Ed Wright isn't soft and gentle either, but he has a very good training style and you dont' get the run around from him. My favorite and first clinic was Martha Josey many many years ago. I walked away from that clinic with a better self image and a horse that went from bland to blast during that clinic. Another great clinic is Lyndee Stairs, but I don't know how far she will travel. She will drill you on some pretty cool stuff, and actually ride every horse to get a feel for what is needed. And by far the best clinic I went to was Marilyn Camarillo. That woman can see so much in one run and give you individual tips to make your horse work better, and you ride faster. She is one of the few that knows not all horses and riders need the same thing. I also went to a Gayle Tyson clinic too, she has an interesting style that wouldn't work for me, but a lot of other people got a lot out of it.
One thing I found facinating was that if you take a clinic by someone built more like you, you will have a better grasp of what you need to do. A long legged person actually rides different than an short legged person, the balance is changed and you use your legs a bit differently. I never hear that mentioned, but I have see it to be true. Just wanted to add that. The other thing is some people are audio learners (Ed's clinics are best for that) and some people are visual learners (Lyndee and Marilyn are best for that.) |
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Location: never in the right place | Paul Humphrey is doing a clinic in Bethany Ct at C&S Ranches and Kelly Kaminski is doing one in Terryville (Harwinton) Ct at LazyD Ranch in April. Pauls is a 3 day and expensive and Kelly's is 2 day but it could be split one day beginners and 2nd day advanced but not sure on that. |
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Location: nj | The classic was over before the open and ran on time.
The open ran late because the computer died when they were doing the draw. Everyone there seemed to be very understanding and supportive.. especially since it was a large effort with it being the open and chapter finals combined. One of the reasons NJ has lost so many barrel races is because people like to complain and not step up and help - the horse park is a fantastic facility and hopefully the person who put in all the effort to run this continues to do them. I know she is doing it to raise money for the horsepark - not for any kind of personal profit.
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Location: rabbit run | smmthbr - 2013-12-16 9:38 AM I went to a Sharon Camarillo clinic a kazillion years ago when I was in the Arabian industry and they were offering an "invitational" Arabian Barrel Race at the Nationals that year. It was my most successful year ever at the Arab Nationals and even though I was associated with one of the top Arabian trainers in the country, my success had a lot to do with the HORSEMANSHIP skills and exercises that Sharon taught me and that I used on all three horses that I took to the Nationals. I hauled in to her clinic with a "prissy little Arabian gelding" and she gave me and him as much respect as if I was the top WPRA barrel racer. She is a true horseman and an intelligent lady and I would go to her clinic again. I have gone to Ed Wright's and he reminds me a lot of her in dedication and intensity, though their training styles are very different. You can learn from ANYONE if you decide to take advantage of their wisdom and experience and don't go looking for pats on the back.
I was not looking for a pat on the back, just a little decency and respect from another human being. Ed Wright wasn't exactly thrilled about the horse I took to his clinic, either, but I wasn't made to feel like I should be ashamed of myself and go stand in the corner all weekend. I don't care who she is, she doesn't have the right to publicy ridicule people because they paid her for her opinion. Maybe I just caught her on a bad weekend. Sounds like you need to check the farmers almanac and see what the signs are to pick a good one. |
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