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Location: NC | lexyy12 - 2013-12-29 9:31 PM
I do slow work in either of the 2 bits I mentioned above. But he acts like he is being gagged
Have you tried a chain mouth piece?
I had a gelding for awhile & he seemed to hate every bit we tried. I told hubby to try a chain mouth o-ring combo & he works pretty well in it. |
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Location: Phoenix | What about a ported bit? My horse hates anything across his tongue but loves his ported bits!! He also does better in a hack but sometimes I like a bit and it works for him. |
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Location: Washington | Nevertooold - 2013-12-29 6:33 PM Sounds like he might have a thick tongue.
I agree. Ask your equine dentist the next time he is out. In the mean time, I would think a stiff bit or a hack would be what he would like. It would be great if you posted a video though. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I don't have one and I won't be able to ride for a few days die to weather. I will try and see if I can find anything to resemble it to. |
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| I agree with the thick tounge. My gelding has a thick tounge and eventually had surgery for SPPD. He can not tolerate a bit. It causes him to suck his tounge back and cuts off his air. |
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| Can you tell me what sppd is? |
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| I'm not sure where you live but have you tried a Turley hack? I've used it and it gives you more whoa than normal hack, also a little more bend. You can use them with a leather curb for a lighter feel or a chain if you need more whoa. I've know several nice horse that run in this hack. |
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| I'm not sure where you live but have you tried a Turley hack? I've used it and it gives you more whoa than normal hack, also a little more bend. You can use them with a leather curb for a lighter feel or a chain if you need more whoa. I've know several nice horse that run in this hack. |
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| I have a mare with a bit of a crooked jaw, its always been really hard to find something that she will tolerate...
unless i need to tune on her i ride her at home in a halter, she rides better in a halter then she does in a hack...
I'll tune her up with a sweet 6... when we're actually working on something she stays pretty focused and doesn't fuss with it...
and i run her in a goosetree simplicity, she's very light mouthed and I've found it works well with my hands and she doesn't fuss with it at all what so ever, and i tend to get a little handsy with her when she gets on the muscle.
http://www.thetackstop.com/goosesimplicitysmooth.htm |
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Location: Somewhere around here | tnh0315 - 2013-12-30 12:46 AM
I'm not sure where you live but have you tried a Turley hack? I've used it and it gives you more whoa than normal hack, also a little more bend. You can use them with a leather curb for a lighter feel or a chain if you need more whoa. I've know several nice horse that run in this hack.
Turkey hack, never heard of it but I'd love to see a picture of it.
Anyway, he could just be a hack kind of horse. You could just use the S hack for home and practice and switch it to a longer shank hack for competitions? I did that with a horse a few years ago and it worked out so well that I even won a belt buckle on him. |
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| barn goddess - 2013-12-29 9:32 PM Can you tell me what sppd is?
Soft Palate Displacement . What the other poster said about thick tongued horses and surrounding tissue swell or fold against the airway when bitted and exercised. |
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| I run the horse in my profile pic in a hack from l and w. It's like the ladybug but short shank. Still plenty of lift/ bend/ whoa. It has a metal nose but I wrap it with vet wrap. Everything I've put it on loves it. They have a couple different shank lengths. |
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| Komet - 2013-12-29 8:35 PM
lexyy12 - 2013-12-29 8:32 PM
Komet - 2013-12-29 9:28 PM
lexyy12 - 2013-12-29 8:24 PM
Komet - 2013-12-29 9:22 PM
I'd have the teeth checked by somebody that KNOWS horse teeth...
I've had two different equine dentists out to check him. The one has been doing my horses teeth for 10 years and the other I brought out to check him in case my guy missed something.
Have you tried a Sweet Iron bit?
I have not! Picture maybe?
Copper plaited bit... Try sucking on a penny... You will get the idea..
Sweet iron is not copper plated, well at least not the original "true" description.
Early spanish black smiths made these LOW carbon steel bits and the spanish name was hierro or acero dulce, iron or steel respectively, sweet.
Modern day versions just refer to low carbon steel bits. Then can however be made with copper rollers or inlays.
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Location: Deep South | 1paintedjewel - 2013-12-29 7:59 PM
I have a mare like this. We were at a Chris Cox clinic and he said that some horses can't tolerate the metal snaps on a metal bit. It irritates them.
I took the snaps off my reins and she's been fine with any bit I've used since. It's been 8 years.
I'm so glad I read this thread. I think this could solve the minor issue I'm haviving with my 3yo, and I would have never thought of this. |
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Location: Oklahoma | cecollins0811 - 2013-12-30 8:50 AM
tnh0315 - 2013-12-30 12:46 AM
I'm not sure where you live but have you tried a Turley hack? I've used it and it gives you more whoa than normal hack, also a little more bend. You can use them with a leather curb for a lighter feel or a chain if you need more whoa. I've know several nice horse that run in this hack.
Turkey hack, never heard of it but I'd love to see a picture of it.
Anyway, he could just be a hack kind of horse. You could just use the S hack for home and practice and switch it to a longer shank hack for competitions? I did that with a horse a few years ago and it worked out so well that I even won a belt buckle on him.
It's TurLEY, not Turkey. Paul Turley made them. I have one. Real similar to Wright's JD hack, but still a little different. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Going through this post tomorrow and looking up all the ideas I've been given!! Hopefully I can find something that will help! |
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Location: lexington KY | BamaCanChaser - 2013-12-30 7:23 PM 1paintedjewel - 2013-12-29 7:59 PM I have a mare like this. We were at a Chris Cox clinic and he said that some horses can't tolerate the metal snaps on a metal bit. It irritates them.
I took the snaps off my reins and she's been fine with any bit I've used since. It's been 8 years. I'm so glad I read this thread. I think this could solve the minor issue I'm haviving with my 3yo, and I would have never thought of this.
My horse had the same issue, he also couldn't handle any extra hanging from a curb chain, once I fixed that he was much happier. He also has a small mouth and a lot of bits didnt sit well, he loves a chain mouthpiece. |
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Location: CA | An idea,
It is not the bit, but the hands behind the bit.
Not saying it's so, just sayin.... |
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