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 BHW Cougar of the Year
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Location: NM | roanrider - 2014-01-27 9:50 AM lexyy12 - 2014-01-27 12:37 PM My little mare is like this. We fought many runs because I thought she was needing help but really she was trying to get me to leave her alone. I like my help my horses too much so I ended up making her reins a little bit longer so even if I'm trying to help I'm still staying out of her way. I lengthened my geldings reins too so there was no "accidental" touching. Helped a ton!!!
Good idea. I'll try that too. |
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| spitzh - 2014-01-27 12:26 PM
bbennington - 2014-01-26 9:25 AM
Here is what not to do.. http://youtu.be/ltXS984r-0Y
That was my first run on him and did not what to do.. HaHa.. I just run him in a s hack. He is very light in the face and mouth. If I get in his way he will come back into the barrel. Just put my hand on his neck and lift his shoulder a tiny bit. We are still getting together but here is a decent run. You hear my dad yelling hold him
http://youtu.be/Q8dlww5MsmY
excuse the gate issues he is over them now just took some time...
wow.... thats a huge improvment! 
Thank You.. That was my last run that year and have been off for two years since I had a baby.Now I have to start all over..
I love running that old guy.. He will be 21 this year.. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I had one a few years ago. Said I would never ever have another. I'm working my tail off right now with one that wants me to stay out of his way. I want them bridle broke enough that I can position them in an instant to move us out of harms way. I'll try to show a video of a colt that I've started. The horse that I refered to earlier was a free running, dropped his hocks on the backside and take off again. He cost us many many nice runs because he wouldn't allow me to handle him at the first. I enjoy working with tuff cases but he took it to another level. Riding him did have rewards as he set several arena records when he was able to "lock in" with me. He was never consistent and you can't go down the road on inconsistency.
http://youtu.be/qU8t_CN0ASc
Look at what occured on the entry to the last barrel. It is that kind of motion that rocks the dirt and causes lost time. I've gone to a chain mouth piece bit for now. I have not dropped a hack on him for a run. I've thought about it but I really want him bridle broke.
Edited by uno-dos-tres! 2014-01-28 10:02 AM
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| I guess most people I know are different. I train mine to be automatic and not need help around the barrels, and almost every horse I've ridden has been that way. Some I've had to check and things but I always give them their head when turning.
Here is my gelding
http://youtu.be/FNEMZDVbXgc
This is a 3 year old colt I owned and started at his first show
http://youtu.be/_Hfzz02Cm0M |
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 I"m Jealous!
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Location: Benton City, WA | dianeguinn - 2014-01-26 3:21 PM This is a video of my great horse....he never liked me to mess with him much...and if I DID try to tell him where to go, it usually ended badly! lol Notice my reins are loose most of the way and I just put my hand down and use the rein against his neck to position him. He wouldn't let you pick him up...you just had to position him right. Most of my horses work like this....you can't go to pulling on them. They know their jobs and want you to let them do it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eMHaE8Qz9k
I'm with Diane... I try to train all of mine so that they work on a loose rein. More fun for me and them!
The horse that really taught me to change what I was doing with my hands was a crazy athletic AAA mare, and if I pulled on her on the back side of the first barrel, she would come back on the same side and I would just about get left in the dirt!!! Cured me of that habit real quick! LOL
This video is of my gelding- he is probably the horse that I have to handle the most because he is naturally very free running.You can see me check him with both hands before the third barrel. He was hauling @$$! The method I use I got from Lance Graves: inside hand on the neck to start the turn and to finish you bring it out to the side (not back) I was taught anytime you pull straight back you are shortening the horses stride, which you don't want to do if you're trying to be fast. Lots of people do it different though, and are successfull in their methods. Its just what is comfortable for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL-IZaVwYOs
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | This guy took to things on his own I just kinda sorta guide him. I run him with a looser rein for my sake. hes pretty cool :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7hOdmTDRks |
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 Nothing Comes Easy
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Location: Texas | My mare is like this. Guide around the barrels, however, if you touch her coming out of the first barrel.. Watch out, she'll take you the opposite direction. I'm still trying to figure this one out. It's not a soreness problem, it's a "I don't want to be helped" problem. She turns and commits, gets to where she should finish the turn and we fall apart. I'm back to the drawing board doing exhibitions to clear this up. Second and third- beautiful! The first... Meh. Any ideas? |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | This is honestly the hardest type of horse for me to run. I'm normally sitting on ones with issues, or seasoning young/green horses, so I'm always having to position something. I do have one mare in particular that I can use my hand to set up the turn on, but after that, I set me inside hand on her neck and let her do her job. I have to float my hand away from her neck at the first, as if I were to close my upper body enough to place my hand against her neck we would crash it. Even in that turn though, you will see that I do not take contact.
P.S. For those of you who don't remember this video.... Turn the volume WAAYY down. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVp7OGJ2Z6w |
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 Did I miss the party?
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| This horse wants to work every run. But, if I touch her she will get stiff and come up in her turns. I can run her in practically nothing. A Little S, a snaffle, a leather draw gag. But, have to just guide her around and not fight her to be "round".
Here is a video: You can see I get a little on her face on the back side of the first barrel and her head comes up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNudo3rtjM
Edited by barrelracinbroke 2014-01-30 10:39 PM
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 I Want a "MAN"
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Location: MD | WrapSnap - 2014-01-30 9:19 PM This is honestly the hardest type of horse for me to run. I'm normally sitting on ones with issues, or seasoning young/green horses, so I'm always having to position something. I do have one mare in particular that I can use my hand to set up the turn on, but after that, I set me inside hand on her neck and let her do her job. I have to float my hand away from her neck at the first, as if I were to close my upper body enough to place my hand against her neck we would crash it. Even in that turn though, you will see that I do not take contact. P.S. For those of you who don't remember this video.... Turn the volume WAAYY down. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVp7OGJ2Z6w
I ran Kitzel at Brandons when he had her and I remember that! I had to really leave her alone. That was the prettiest run I think I've ever seen her make with anyone you ran her perfectly. |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | CE's wrapn3 - 2014-01-31 8:08 AM
WrapSnap - 2014-01-30 9:19 PM This is honestly the hardest type of horse for me to run. I'm normally sitting on ones with issues, or seasoning young/green horses, so I'm always having to position something. I do have one mare in particular that I can use my hand to set up the turn on, but after that, I set me inside hand on her neck and let her do her job. I have to float my hand away from her neck at the first, as if I were to close my upper body enough to place my hand against her neck we would crash it. Even in that turn though, you will see that I do not take contact. P.S. For those of you who don't remember this video.... Turn the volume WAAYY down. lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVp7OGJ2Z6w
Thank you! Some daays aare better than others, for both of us! lol |
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