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What to do with an over bendy horse?

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hwh
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-01-27 1:53 PM
Subject: RE: What to do with an over bendy horse?



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geronabean
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Posted 2014-01-27 3:36 PM
Subject: RE: What to do with an over bendy horse?


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WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2014-01-27 2:45 PM
geronabean - 2014-01-27 1:39 PM  You need to teach him to engage his shoulder when he turns to get rid of noodle necking. Get that shoulder moving properly instead of leading in the turn and that will fix the drift also.
What kind of exercises do you do to teach them to engage their shoulders? 
IDK if its a particular excercise or not but more in how someone asks/teaches them to bend in the first place. Some folks forget the shoulders when asking for bend and this results in noodle necking and drifting thru the turn letting the shoulder drift to the outside (then the booty follows the shoulder). I want my horses to give a little in the face and neck then follow thru with stepping around/across with their shoulders/front legs followed by their rib cage and hindend. 

I teach them to do this by learning to move away from leg pressure in the shoulders and I combine that with rein pressure. My horses are all tought a beginning reining spin which is great for this. I think it can be enhanced using a counter arc somewhat, but only if the rider understands the process and how their legs and hands effect that shoulder My goal is to have that front end moving and engaged in the right direction during a turn so that the shoulder guides the turn more than the head/neck. Keeps noodles to a minimum. 

So I teach a horse to move/cross over their front when I bump the shoulder in combo with outside and inside rein pressure. My hands collect and pick up the front, my "inside leg" is open and off the horse so that the shoulder can move into that open area. Baby steps... toward proper body usage in a turn.

So for me the bits mentioned DO help but if the horse isnt excuting a turn properly no bit will fix the problem completely.



 

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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-01-27 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: What to do with an over bendy horse?



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geronabean - 2014-01-27 3:36 PM
WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2014-01-27 2:45 PM
geronabean - 2014-01-27 1:39 PM  You need to teach him to engage his shoulder when he turns to get rid of noodle necking. Get that shoulder moving properly instead of leading in the turn and that will fix the drift also.
What kind of exercises do you do to teach them to engage their shoulders? 
IDK if its a particular excercise or not but more in how someone asks/teaches them to bend in the first place. Some folks forget the shoulders when asking for bend and this results in noodle necking and drifting thru the turn letting the shoulder drift to the outside (then the booty follows the shoulder). I want my horses to give a little in the face and neck then follow thru with stepping around/across with their shoulders/front legs followed by their rib cage and hindend. 



I teach them to do this by learning to move away from leg pressure in the shoulders and I combine that with rein pressure. My horses are all tought a beginning reining spin which is great for this. I think it can be enhanced using a counter arc somewhat, but only if the rider understands the process and how their legs and hands effect that shoulder My goal is to have that front end moving and engaged in the right direction during a turn so that the shoulder guides the turn more than the head/neck. Keeps noodles to a minimum. 



So I teach a horse to move/cross over their front when I bump the shoulder in combo with outside and inside rein pressure. My hands collect and pick up the front, my "inside leg" is open and off the horse so that the shoulder can move into that open area. Baby steps... toward proper body usage in a turn. 




 

 Good explanation.  

I was training one last year that knew how to bend her neck and fly sideways off an inside rein...talking about floating out of a turn! LOL She had to learn to listen to my body and put hers together, so I would counter arc her or half pass her into a turn following her shoulder without moving my hand (counter arc left then turn right), just changing the pressure of my legs and how I was sitting.  Made a huge difference in her turns.
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