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Location: OK | My horse is pretty square and flat, just a little curve, not really wide. After trying some different saddles my question is:
2 of my saddles are a little too wide and sit down too much.
He seems to get sore right behind the shoulder blade. It does not dip, but almost bulges a hair. Everybody keeps talking about shimming this and that, but if he gets sore there, won't shimming and making it thicker make it tighter-therefore putting more pressure where I don't want it? Shouldn't I shim it in front of that to give that muscle a hair of room? That would be a pretty skinny shim, like 2-3 inches. AND, will shimming a saddle in front cause the back of the skirt to dig into the back muscles there and make him sore over his loins?
He's cinchy and a turd, so I know it doesn't fit, but I've tried all this and I really don't like any of it.
Even a treeless saddle has a fork that is solid, right? So if it didn't fit, wouldn't it make him sore too?
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| If your saddle isn't a Martin, then the saddle needs to be on top of the shoulder not behind.
If your saddle is correctly placed, I am saying your saddle has too much rock and he has a pressure point behind the shoulder.
If you are not wanting a Martin I would suggest calling the saddle manufacturing companies and see which of their tree has a flatter bar.
I have a very flat and wide backed horse, I had to order extra flat bars. I ordered a Martin and so glad I did as it solved my problems. | |
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Location: between here and there | cheryl makofka - 2014-02-13 7:07 PM
If your saddle isn't a Martin, then the saddle needs to be on top of the shoulder not behind.
If your saddle is correctly placed, I am saying your saddle has too much rock and he has a pressure point behind the shoulder.
If you are not wanting a Martin I would suggest calling the saddle manufacturing companies and see which of their tree has a flatter bar.
I have a very flat and wide backed horse, I had to order extra flat bars. I ordered a Martin and so glad I did as it solved my problems.
Just for discussion and clarification, but "rock in a tree" comes from the center of the bars, not behind the shoulder. So, it comes in underneath your seat. It's the shape of the bars and possibly the location playing into her issues. Not all saddles are meant to sit up on the shoulders either, and in fact, most are not. Most are made to be placed behind, but again because of the shape of the bars, the shoulders can't slide underneath the tree as the horse moves. | |
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| wimpyb - 2014-02-13 6:40 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-02-13 7:07 PM
If your saddle isn't a Martin, then the saddle needs to be on top of the shoulder not behind.
If your saddle is correctly placed, I am saying your saddle has too much rock and he has a pressure point behind the shoulder.
If you are not wanting a Martin I would suggest calling the saddle manufacturing companies and see which of their tree has a flatter bar.
I have a very flat and wide backed horse, I had to order extra flat bars. I ordered a Martin and so glad I did as it solved my problems.
Just for discussion and clarification, but "rock in a tree" comes from the center of the bars, not behind the shoulder. So, it comes in underneath your seat. It's the shape of the bars and possibly the location playing into her issues. Not all saddles are meant to sit up on the shoulders either, and in fact, most are not. Most are made to be placed behind, but again because of the shape of the bars, the shoulders can't slide underneath the tree as the horse moves.
Saddles that are 7/8", 1/2" riggin are to be set on the shoulders that is why the riggin is set back so the saddle can be on the shoulders and the cinch still be in the proper place.
That is why Martin has the adjustable riggin so to have the saddle behind the shoulder completely the riggin is as far forward so the cinch will be in the proper place.
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