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F1NoniStephenville
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2014-03-21 9:41 PM
Subject: Ratey horse




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My mares super ratey on the first barrel, she's not knocking just getting so far under herself she's bogging on the back side. Any suggestions to push her up into the barrel and free her a little?
She's your typical mare the more you get on her the more she likes to shut you out
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rodeowithjoker
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-03-22 9:24 PM
Subject: RE: Ratey horse



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Tana Poppino told me last year that some horses will shut down or duck if you get TOO far out over them. I have a super ratey OTT horse who I have to literally just sit there and drive with my seat rather than by leaning forward or you're going to plow the second barrel. I am working on my habit of leaning forward and trying to stay straight up to where it looks like I'm just sitting there as he blasts across the pen. Here's a good example. As soon as my shoulders come forward, he buries up to turn the 2nd (and about launched me in the process) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfMmkSYsgAI 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-03-22 11:36 PM
Subject: RE: Ratey horse


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If I have a horse setting up for the turn too soon, when they set, I will get ahold of them and ask them to move away from the barrel and go to the wall. I do this with my inside rein and leg.
It is very difficult at first, I start with exhibitions or timed onlies, them I will sacrifice a few entry fees to make sure they listen as we all know competition runs are different. Then I go back to riding like I normally do
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2014-03-23 9:08 AM
Subject: RE: Ratey horse



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cheryl makofka - 2014-03-22 11:36 PM

If I have a horse setting up for the turn too soon, when they set, I will get ahold of them and ask them to move away from the barrel and go to the wall. I do this with my inside rein and leg.
It is very difficult at first, I start with exhibitions or timed onlies, them I will sacrifice a few entry fees to make sure they listen as we all know competition runs are different. Then I go back to riding like I normally do

This has worked for me also.
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F1NoniStephenville
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2014-03-23 3:57 PM
Subject: RE: Ratey horse




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Location: Texas
I do the wall exercise with my gelding. It works wonders!! But pees her off to no end it starts issues. So I gotta avoid it, I have been jogging her a few strides past and not really enforcing a rate.
Last night in Fairfield we weren't fast by any means a 18.4 but I was pleased. I took her in and bumped her rear with the dressage whip when I felt her shutting me out and she went a half stride past and turned the barrel great.
We both have some confidence issues to work on and I never through bringing back your ace horse from an injury could be such a challenge! Shew!!
Im having issues with her getting comfortable enough to open up again, she wants to safety the while run; but last night I felt huge progress! On both our parts.
But any advice I greatly appreciate and it will be noted! ;)
I love to hear different opinions.

Edited by F1NoniStephenville 2014-03-23 3:59 PM
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mouse
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-03-23 4:04 PM
Subject: RE: Ratey horse


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Totally agree with the first poster........I used to lean forward trying to get that extra step and caught a lot of barrels on the way out.........it slows down the front end actually, and therefor the back end does end up buried......have had 2 mares like that.  Sitting straight and sliding your own pelvis fwd will keep them moving.  Also, adding a little heel support in shoeing the backend, if you're not doing it already will keep them from getting too underneath themself.  My first good barrelhorse would get so underneath herself, it was like she was stuck.....just alittle more heel of a shoe fixed that.  The turning off a barrel is great if your horse is rating too soon......but I think if I understand you right, the horse is just too deep in the ground witht the  backend
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F1NoniStephenville
Reg. Sep 2013
Posted 2014-03-23 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Ratey horse




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Location: Texas
She's a real catty turner but she gets her rear so far under her she ruts on the back side, and she hangs for a minute then comes out. I will run that by my farrie see what he thinks :)

And now that I think of it I've been getting over her a little because she drops her shoulder at the back side and wraps around (always been her style)
So I've been getting a little ahead of her and not helping!

Edited by F1NoniStephenville 2014-03-23 4:35 PM
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mouse
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-03-23 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: Ratey horse


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That's exactly what my mare did....and then we would end up with just a little dead spot....
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