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Location: your guess is as good as mine | Yup...used one on my old gelding, except his was plastic-covered wire cable instead of rope. Don't have one as of yet that needs it, but if I get one that needs it you bet your boots I'll put it on 'em.
Of course, I'm a really bad trainer...I train all of mine in a tie down lol. 
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | jewishprincess - 2014-05-23 4:45 PM I had a horse come over on a friend who used a head setter on a him. It was loose but as soon as he hit it, he went up. Surprisingly instead of a harsher bit, all he needed was a jim warner hackamore. I'm curious what made ya'll decide he "needed" a head setter or tie down? I'm not critizing but I am curious what actions made you think, hey lets restrict his head movement. A lot of you say your horse "balances" on one. How is that? In my mind, a better foundation would solve the need for a tie down but please correct me. I know a lot of really great riders and trainers use them.
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Location: Texas | jewishprincess - 2014-05-23 4:45 PM
I had a horse come over on a friend who used a head setter on a him. It was loose but as soon as he hit it, he went up. Surprisingly instead of a harsher bit, all he needed was a jim warner hackamore. I'm curious what made ya'll decide he "needed" a head setter or tie down? I'm not critizing but I am curious what actions made you think, hey lets restrict his head movement. A lot of you say your horse "balances" on one. How is that? In my mind, a better foundation would solve the need for a tie down but please correct me. I know a lot of really great riders and trainers use them.
You would be hard pressed to find a horse with a better foundation or even a better handle on them than my 5 year old has… I use a loose tie down on him because he just seems to work better in it than not. I use an o'ring with it (I'm well aware that that is not what they are meant to be used with… but tell that to my pony, lol.) I've learned that you do what works for your horse. And a properly adjusted tie-down doesn't restrict head movement.
In regards to the horse rearing up because of the "head setter"… That was a novice move by your friend that caused that. Things that are done for the first time need to be done gradually, not all at once. A good trainer would take their time to let a horse get a "feel" for something new. I'm glad that no one was hurt as a result.
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| I use one on my older gelding. He does it throw his head but uses it to balance around the turn. I've had him 10 years and have tried without. Just runs better with one |
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Location: Dubach, LA | My old man has never "needed" a tie down on the pattern. You could run in a halter. You could probably run with a rope around his neck. He loves barrels. BUT you better have his tie down on when you leave the pen, or he's not stopping. Seems to be an easy fix for a horse that works as hard as he does. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I've found three appendix horses I rode worked better in tie downs. They tended to get ahead of themselves into turns without them because of their natural head and shoulder angle. Tie down helped it almost instantly. I've ridden some pretty compact horses that never needed though. |
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Location: Louisiana | I run T-Bo in a wire tie down 90% of the time. Every now and then I'll put a "normal" one on him, but he seems to prefer the wire that goes over his poll. It only gets "used" during the actual run, just riding around and warming up it's pretty much not there, no contact anyway. I ride him at home in a little draw bit with no tie down so it's not lack of training or handle. When he is running full speed it gives him something to brace on in the turns. I've run him in nothing before and he gets strung out and loses his back end. I guess think of it like a saddle horn. Sure you can turn a barrel without grabbing it, but by using that tool you can push your butt down and stay in better position. He just makes a better run with it. I'm going to try and attach a pic of what I use, I'm on my phone so we'll see if it works...
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Location: Wyoming- where its always windy! | I appreciate everyone's responses. I started using a regular tie down because my horse is very hard running and has a tendency to toss her head when I ask her to rate during our run. The frustrating part is that she's super broke and sensitive. She will do everything perfect at a walk and trot, but when speed is added and I ask her to rate she tosses her head and gets out of frame and gets strung out in her turn. A friend of mine who is a much better trainer than I, recommended using one loosely on her during runs. I have the one adjusted now so that she has freedom but if she goes to toss her head it helps her not lose her frame. I just saw this one on NRS and thought it was kind of a neat concept |
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