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| sodapop - 2014-06-10 10:32 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-10 9:09 AM Back to the Chrome saga.....
I haven't read all the comments on the thread, so I don't know if someone already brought this up, but.....
It irritated me so bad that the NBC reporters ran right to Chrome's owners. Why not the winners? Because NBC wanted drama, they knew they would get a sound bite. It's no fun to run down the owners of the winning horse and get the woohoo's and excitement - that's not going to be as memorable than drama. It's way more fun to interview the loser in hopes of getting the dramatic negative. The connections of Chrome have been living in a stressful highly emotional situation for months leading up to this moment and they got the rug pulled out from under them. Of course they are going to be emotional and say things they shouldn't. Emotions will shut off the brain to mouth filter every time. I don't like any of the NBC reporters anyway, especially Costas, they crossed the line. IMO.
Now Coburn has apologized for his emotional outburst and is getting chastized by some for that. Certain people will never be happy, they focus on the negative and can't move past it. An apology is never enough to change their view of a person. We all talk about taking responsibility for our actions, yet when someone does, it's still not good enough in the eyes of some people. It bites my butt. There. Rant over. I agree with you about NBC not going to the winning owners first too. It was for drama. I also think they knew Cogburn would be a bit outspoken just because of his general demeanor up to this point. They should have shown respect to the winning owners first. I really hated that they even asked Tonalist owner about Cogburn's rant when he was getting the trophy from the NY governor. That was tacky for sure.
I thought the same thing! I wish the owner of Tonalist would have asked Costas why in the world he was asking him such rude and inappropriate questions in the winners circle. What a jerk! |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Herbie - 2014-06-09 10:19 AM The one thing we have to remember is that Mr. Coburn is a newbie to horse racing and in their first try they breed a horse for $10,000 that wins two of the most pretigious races of all time. To say one gets emotionally caught up in that was an understatement. Heck, I got caught up in mine running in a $5000 claimer and finishing 9th. HAHA Horse racing is an emotional thing and if you've never owned one, it's like nothing else seeing your horse come down the race track. I can't imagine someone shoving a camera in your face right after that. Yes, he knew the deal when he paid the entry fee, and I agree with NONE of what he said and certainly don't want or think anything needs to be changed in the campaign for the Triple Crown. All I can say is that he was emotional, exhausted, heart broken, and loves his horse.....but most of all he's human and made a mistake. It's my understanding he and his wife just appeared on Good Morning America and he delivered the most sincere, heartfelt apology. I forgive him because he's the first person i've seen in the game of horse racing in a very long time who actually loves his horse. For most owners, it's simply business and a tax write off and once the horse isn't profitable (if it ever is to start with) big time owners often don't care what happens to them, but Steve LOVES this horse, and for that I applaud him. I'm still a CC fan, I think he's a special horse and I forgive Mr. Coburn for the way he acted. The Good Lord knows I wouldn't want a camera in my face after any of those races because there is no telling what might come out of my mouth! It takes a big man to know he was in the wrong and an even bigger man to admit it with tears in his eyes! So I still say, Go Chrome!!!!!! 
I too agree with you - thank you for saying this so well. If you follow any sport there are outburst like this when emotions are high. Just watch a NASCAR race when they run right up to a driver after someone caused them to wreck. I did not care for NBC's people doing the interviews. Really did not like to guy that interviewd CC's jockey before the race. As you mentioned so well some people own then for tax purposes, etc. and I would imagine may never actually see the horse run. CC's owner has been with him since he hit the ground. Still a great story. Still love CC and will continue to pull for him and his team. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Herbie - 2014-06-09 9:19 AM The one thing we have to remember is that Mr. Coburn is a newbie to horse racing and in their first try they breed a horse for $10,000 that wins two of the most pretigious races of all time. To say one gets emotionally caught up in that was an understatement. Heck, I got caught up in mine running in a $5000 claimer and finishing 9th. HAHA Horse racing is an emotional thing and if you've never owned one, it's like nothing else seeing your horse come down the race track. I can't imagine someone shoving a camera in your face right after that. Yes, he knew the deal when he paid the entry fee, and I agree with NONE of what he said and certainly don't want or think anything needs to be changed in the campaign for the Triple Crown. All I can say is that he was emotional, exhausted, heart broken, and loves his horse.....but most of all he's human and made a mistake. It's my understanding he and his wife just appeared on Good Morning America and he delivered the most sincere, heartfelt apology. I forgive him because he's the first person i've seen in the game of horse racing in a very long time who actually loves his horse. For most owners, it's simply business and a tax write off and once the horse isn't profitable (if it ever is to start with) big time owners often don't care what happens to them, but Steve LOVES this horse, and for that I applaud him. I'm still a CC fan, I think he's a special horse and I forgive Mr. Coburn for the way he acted. The Good Lord knows I wouldn't want a camera in my face after any of those races because there is no telling what might come out of my mouth! It takes a big man to know he was in the wrong and an even bigger man to admit it with tears in his eyes! So I still say, Go Chrome!!!!!!
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Once upon a time the news channels would actually report the news and not try to create their own news. |
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Location: TN | ride n slide - 2014-06-10 9:39 AM sodapop - 2014-06-10 10:32 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-10 9:09 AM Back to the Chrome saga.....
I haven't read all the comments on the thread, so I don't know if someone already brought this up, but.....
It irritated me so bad that the NBC reporters ran right to Chrome's owners. Why not the winners? Because NBC wanted drama, they knew they would get a sound bite. It's no fun to run down the owners of the winning horse and get the woohoo's and excitement - that's not going to be as memorable than drama. It's way more fun to interview the loser in hopes of getting the dramatic negative. The connections of Chrome have been living in a stressful highly emotional situation for months leading up to this moment and they got the rug pulled out from under them. Of course they are going to be emotional and say things they shouldn't. Emotions will shut off the brain to mouth filter every time. I don't like any of the NBC reporters anyway, especially Costas, they crossed the line. IMO.
Now Coburn has apologized for his emotional outburst and is getting chastized by some for that. Certain people will never be happy, they focus on the negative and can't move past it. An apology is never enough to change their view of a person. We all talk about taking responsibility for our actions, yet when someone does, it's still not good enough in the eyes of some people. It bites my butt. There. Rant over. I agree with you about NBC not going to the winning owners first too. It was for drama. I also think they knew Cogburn would be a bit outspoken just because of his general demeanor up to this point. They should have shown respect to the winning owners first. I really hated that they even asked Tonalist owner about Cogburn's rant when he was getting the trophy from the NY governor. That was tacky for sure.
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Location: California | You all are so right. NBC stirred the pot big time. Why bring up what Coburn said during the awards presentation to the Belmont winner? The guy was more irritated with the reporter bringing it up than with Coburn's comment. I am seeing TB people (arm chair hadicappers and racing fans) continue to say that he didn't mean the apology and what an ass he is. But hey, they will be the first to sing him praises when he horse wins again. Bunch of two-faced cowards. Not one of them would say it to his face. Not one. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I think he was sincere and embarrassed when he gave his apology.
I like CC and hope to see him win again.
I personally think the TB world has been ticked since CC didn't cost a bunch of money more then anything. I guess they now can say they have their own Scamper in the TB racing world..LOL |
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Location: Washington | Nevertooold - 2014-06-10 3:53 PM I think he was sincere and embarrassed when he gave his apology.
I like CC and hope to see him win again.
I personally think the TB world has been ticked since CC didn't cost a bunch of money more then anything. I guess they now can say they have their own Scamper in the TB racing world..LOL
Really?
Pretty sure they were happy for him until Cogburn felt he could tell them all how to do it and when to do it. Cogburn was out of control.
We hopefully will see CC at the Breeders Cup....and he won't have to travel far for it. 
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| I read one comment the next day from someone that were in line with this thread....he's new to this level of the industry, he was emotional, etc. They then went on to say that maybe he has a point. The world of the last Triple Crown winner and the world of today with technology at every turn from breeding to strategy etc is not even close.
Frankly I think his analogy of 'it's like entering a triathalon, just doing the swimming and saying you won'. The point the journalist made was does the thoroughbred racing industry keep doing the same thing, or after a century do they look at the new world and say...'Maybe this 'ol coot has something'.
The only thing I know is that I wanted the fairy tale to go on. I've only had one horse that we ran, only 2 races, and it was thrilling, but I didn't really like what you have to do when they're running.
Either way, it was a great ride for the spectators and the country, can't even imagine what it was like for the owners. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | fatchance - 2014-06-10 6:48 PM Nevertooold - 2014-06-10 3:53 PM I think he was sincere and embarrassed when he gave his apology.
I like CC and hope to see him win again.
I personally think the TB world has been ticked since CC didn't cost a bunch of money more then anything. I guess they now can say they have their own Scamper in the TB racing world..LOL Really?
Pretty sure they were happy for him until Cogburn felt he could tell them all how to do it and when to do it. Cogburn was out of control.
We hopefully will see CC at the Breeders Cup....and he won't have to travel far for it.
They were called Dumb Asses long before CC started racing and is why they went with Dumb Ass Partners. I don't feel that was being supportive of their breeding program..LOL |
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| I dont see the point in holding it against him... people say things or do things all the time that they later regret. I understand being frustrated, although I dont agree with his viewpoint, I also understand why he feels that way. I wish CC could have done it and it could have gone differently for him at the belmont. |
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