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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Once again the criminals rights trumps common sense. | |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-08-17 6:50 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-08-17 6:21 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-08-17 5:46 PM It all depends on what the schools policies are, if they have no policies on allowing convicted criminals on sports teams, then the coach is not in violation. Professional sports still have convicted criminals in contracts, no one questions this, so why a double standard? Yes, you are technically right but it is a sad statement when a student can be suspended for academics but not rape. Most sports clubs have moral and academic standards that must be met. The lack of morals or interpretation of it, is very disturbing but in relation to high school football, I don't think looking the other way for the sake of the team is anything new, that has been going on for generations. I don't think it is a double standard to enforce morals and ethics in high school. Maybe if it were done then they wouldn't end up as criminals as adults. Lessons have to be taught regardless of the bad examples set by professional athletes, , lets not let their behavior dictact our standards. But wasn't the lesson learned by the individual serving his sentence? Why should he be penalized after serving his sentence and being rehabilitated?
You lose a lot of different privileges or rights when you are convicted of a felony, depending on the state it's in.
For instance, you lose your right to own a firearm.
If you are a public official you are removed from office and prohibited from holding public office again for a period of time.
You can having driving privileges revoked for a period of time.
Having your privilege to play football revoked is perfectly reasonable to me. | |
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Location: MD | just sickening. whatever.  | |
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Location: Dubach, LA | Glad to know that this isn't confined to Louisiana. Football and coaches set the climate and run the schools. The good players have no rules. The bench warmers have very few. If it happens on the court or the diamond, there may be consequences. If it happens on the field, you're good. | |
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Location: Sperry, OK | Nevertooold - 2014-08-17 8:59 PM Once again the criminals rights trumps common sense.
And also trumps the rights of the victim. I personally think, once you have violated someone's rights (in such a heinous manor as this or murder, ect.) you shouldn't have any rights. His personal interests (playing football, allowing him on the team for fear of a law suit from him) should be null and void. He should be made to either be home schooled or enrolled in the districst school for misfits! Any other teir II sex offender isn't allowed within so many feet of schools, churches, parks, ect., even if they have been rehabilitated, but this kid is right in the smack dab middle of one. How is that even allowed?
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 Dancing in my Mind
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | CanCan - 2014-08-18 7:47 AM
Glad to know that this isn't confined to Louisiana. Football and coaches set the climate and run the schools. The good players have no rules. The bench warmers have very few. If it happens on the court or the diamond, there may be consequences. If it happens on the field, you're good.
It is horrible the football mentality in Steubenville. There has been other questionable actions in the past by players and the coach and everything keeps getting sweep under the rug. I am not kidding that a lot of people from Steubenville think if you are NOT a Big Red fan then you are a "hater" and "judgmental" and don't dare say anything about their mighty coach, Reno. I wish more of them would worship God as they do that man. Both the boys involved believed they would be safe because Reno knew and "would take care of this s***" (this has been reported in several respectable new sources). | |
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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Location: OH | I am from just North of Steubenville and everything Rolling is saying is completely on point. Reno, the head football coach RUNS THAT TOWN. It is completely out of control and has been for some time, everyone and everything is tied to the football program. They pack the stadium with 10,000 people every Friday, they rarely have an away game and there is SO much tied to that program financially that they will do almost anything to keep it going. They recruit---BIG TIME and bring kids in from out of town and set them up with apartments under there parents names, like it is their residence, then the kids will stay there--UNSUPERVISED and have big parties. We played them one year in the playoffs, and the Sheriff lierally brought the star running back to the game in a police cruiser, unloaded him, let him play the game and then took him back to jail. He had robbed a place earlier in the week, but heaven forbid---we cannot let Big Red lose. Disgraceful. | |
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The Advice Guru
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| I read a few articles on the rape, it said the individual served his sentence in juvenile detention centre, so was he under the age of 18 when the criminal activity occurred?
If he was under age, it does change things.
Also since the victim was intoxicated, were the accused individuals also intoxicated?
I never found any information on the race or ethnic origin of the female involved, in a perfect world it shouldn't matter, but one does wonder.
Too many details left out, as it sounds like tier 2 sex offender is a serious offence, how many juveniles are convicted of the same offence in the state, and how many complete the same crime and are not charged to the extent of this individual?
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Dancing in my Mind
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | cheryl makofka - 2014-08-19 10:37 AM
I read a few articles on the rape, it said the individual served his sentence in juvenile detention centre, so was he under the age of 18 when the criminal activity occurred?
If he was under age, it does change things.
Also since the victim was intoxicated, were the accused individuals also intoxicated?
I never found any information on the race or ethnic origin of the female involved, in a perfect world it shouldn't matter, but one does wonder.
Too many details left out, as it sounds like tier 2 sex offender is a serious offence, how many juveniles are convicted of the same offence in the state, and how many complete the same crime and are not charged to the extent of this individual?
Richmond (African American) was 16 at the time of the rape. Mays (Caucasian) was 17 and Jane Doe (Caucasian) was also 16.
***Interesting fact Jane Doe was the ex-girlfriend of Cody Saltwalter who was a friend of Richmond and Mays. Cody posted an UTube video that would make you want to vomit about the what occurred that night. It was very much questioned how much this friendship had to do with what occurred.
Yes, there was a lot of partying that night and by all reports Jane Doe was intoxicated but I do not know how much Richmond and Mays drank but to the best of my knowledge that never really was a factor in the court case.
Tier II Sex Offender: An adult or juvenile classified as a Tier II sex offender has been convicted of [adult] or found delinquent by reason of [juvenile] one or more sexually oriented offense[s]. Tier II sex offenders must register, every six months for twenty-five years with the Sheriff of the County in which the offender lives, works and attends school. Also, whenever the registered sex offender changes residence.
I don't have evidence or facts to answer your questions how many complete the same crime and are not charged.
Edited to add: Mays got a longer sentence than Richmond. In my opinion though 1 year (got out in 9 months) and 2 years were nothing more than a slap on the wrist.
Edited by Rolling J 2014-08-19 6:29 PM
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