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   Location: Australia | Ive copied the address to two videos of my practice runs in a reply below. She was only half fit at that stage so she's not opening up quite as much as she can but im still pretty happy with her efforts. The first run is 22 the second one is around 23... Shithouse speed but loving how she is trying.
Edited by XxXRodeoGirlXxX 2014-08-17 9:38 PM
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 Chasin my Dream
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        Location: Alberta | Videos? |
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   Location: Australia | Sorry! completely forgot videos dont upload on here...
http://youtu.be/RILtrLd3XWA
http://youtu.be/BN7UELUJFYk
Theres the youtube links to them.
Sorry for the confusion! |
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 Don't Wanna Make This Awkward
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Your videos are private, you have to make them public |
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   Location: Australia | Yes they are but i thought if you had the direct address it would work, my bad! ill fix it. |
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 Cute Little Imp
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     Location: N Texas | The main thing that sticks out to me is you're using your outside rein too much to keep her off the second and third barrels. Her body is not set up/shaped at all to make left hand turns. Her head is tipped to the right when it should be left. You need to use your left leg to move her over, and your left rein to tip her nose and lift her shoulder.
When you trot and lope circles, you want her body to match the curve of the circle. |
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | I have to agree....slow her back down and WORK more correct circles on her (on and off of the barrel pattern). She looks like she is wanting to please but does not have the basics of how to handle the turns. Additionally, the ground condition isn't helping her. She has stumbled several times. If you can, watch some "training" videos..........Slow "correct" work......makes fast runs..... |
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 Born not Made
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       Location: North Dakota | Is that GRASS you are running barrels on? I personally find that very dangerous. At least go take a shovel, hoe, rake, and whatever you need to remove the sod around the barrels so your horse has some dirt to work with.
I agree with the others in that you should never try to tip your horse's nose away from the barrels. You need to keep her body bent to match the curve of the circle you are going to take. Use your inside leg to keep her off the barrel until you are ready to turn.
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 A Somebody to Everybody
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whoa you got some hard looking ground there, I bet if you find a place that is loose dirt she would feel better. I dont like pulling the horses face away from the barrel all you are doing is causing her to drop her shoulder going into the barrel, you need to pick her up with the inside rein and help her. Leave the outside rein alone. |
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 The Worst Seller Ever
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    Location: Oklahoma | She is doing everythign right with her feet, now you need to work on her body.. Like others have said she is dropping her shoulder to turn the 2nd & 3rd.
I have no issues with the grass, as long as it is dry, that is what I do most of my patterning on. Horses learn how to handle themselves, but it is not easy on their joints. |
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| your horse is trying very very hard for you but the ground is getting the best of her. I'll bet her her kick out going to the 2nd barrel was because of the ground. You have a great start. I agree on the nose tipping thing. Instead of tipping her nose out, tip it in and use your inside foot to get her by and shaped up. I bet if you get her on some soft ground and use inside leg and tip her nose in you will have a 100% change. You have done a great job thus far. On the grass she is trying to put her butt under her to turn but cant due to the grass. On dirt I bet she'd make some awesome turns. |
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   Location: Australia | Yes my 2nd and 3rd are my biggest let downs... I am very conscious of what i do with the reigns... See I know my girl and she likes to get in very tight, smashing my shin on the drum isn't an issue for her! In dry work (circle work/not on drums) she listens perfectly, she does awesome circles and everything perfect, but on the drums she's just hard and fast and often doesn't listen to my inside leg and reign... spur and all... so i take her off and get her doing some circles working off my leg and various listening exercises, she's perfect, put her back on the drums, i may as well not even have an inside leg... I figure enough dry work, I just need to put some hours in walking the pattern... Something to work on!
As for ground, last friday i realised just how dangerous this ground is , i was only loping her around that second drum, not sure if she was distracted or what, but she slipped over and rolled right on me and busted my leg up, so never again!!! This is just the place where I work (when im not home recovering), and I don't have anywhere else to practice home or else where... |
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   Location: Australia | So is the ground as those turns the only obvious concerns???? I feel like my riding is a bit messy.... My girls trying her heart out but im all over the show!! |
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       Location: Displaced Iowegian | XxXRodeoGirlXxX - 2014-08-18 8:21 PM So is the ground as those turns the only obvious concerns???? I feel like my riding is a bit messy.... My girls trying her heart out but im all over the show!!
I urge you to get and watch some "training" videos......which will also help with your seat , body position and your cues to your horse. |
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| XxXRodeoGirlXxX - 2014-08-18 7:21 PM
So is the ground as those turns the only obvious concerns???? I feel like my riding is a bit messy.... My girls trying her heart out but im all over the show!!
Your mare is really IMO trying very hard to work nice. But the grass is very hard to stand up on, she slips a bit on every barrel. If it hasent already its going to start effecting her confidince.
It also liiks hard on her body espicaly on the run home, in the first video she almost looks sore on her front end and was kicking out a bit. But I didn't see that in the second, so its just the ground messing with her and my eyes I think.
Is there somewhere more appropriate you can go ride? An organised barrel practice? You might even get some tips at one!
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        Location: Pacific Northwest | I think grass is fine for walking/trotting and some of my horses can lope bigger circles too but I would be careful with the fast runs (: She looks like she already knows that part of her job anyway and just needs some fine tuning. If she's not listening to your legs, I would start with just one barrel and ask her to spiral in and out, just at the walk. When she's good about that, move up to the trot, and then eventually the lope. If she tries to get tight without you asking make her go out wide again and lope that distance around until she relaxes again. You should be able to have her go any distance around the barrel and stay there without trying to cut in. |
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   Location: Australia | There are alot of ABHA (Aus barrel horse association) barrel races down where im working, which is good practice, just getting to them is the problem as im very busy and not yet quite up to towing (My boss will be teaching me when I go back so we can start getting to more barrel races!!) but the nearest arena costs something like $600 to rent for a few hours! so i think ill just leave any fast pace to when i actually get to barrel races and stick to slow work at home!!
Ill deffinitely look into some training videos, although i never have been the gratest learner by watching, I prefer doing, and working out what works best myself while I'm actually on my horse... I always say we (me and my girl) may work well together, but if a pro was to get on her they wouldn't know what was going on, just like i probably wouldn't handle a pro barrel racer!  |
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