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 Sexy Bee Yacht
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Location: WA | Last week my mare somehow ran into a 4" round post and snapped it off. With her chest. Luckily, the only damage she has is to her radial nerve. Initially her right leg was paralyzed and she couldn't use it. To move her took some work with me dragging and the vet behind her encouraging her. That was Friday. After a lot of Dex and Super Vitamin E, she can now walk very well. When I did her morning meds I can't tell if she is just BARELY off or if I am looking for her to be since I have watched her so close last few days. She has loped around field a little and is comfortable (even when that leg was paralyzed she wasn't distressed, just couldn't walk, I was surprised how easy going she seemed about it).
Vet said I could ride again when her gaits were normal. I am giving her few more days. State NBHA finals are the 19-21. :/ I have a vet out slip but not sure about what to do. If she is 100% and I get a few rides in, do we go? Vet said if she felt good riding no reason not to go. I have zero experience with nerve issues, so I am hesitant. On the other hand, if she is good with rides at home and there isn't a risk of hurting anything, why not go? I just don't know.
Anyone have radial nerve damage experience?
Just to be clear, I always err on the side of being overly cautious. I have not made a decision to go or not to go at this time. I am just asking for others experience. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | When I was a kid, my mare did that about 3 weeks before the world show. Spent a week hand walking while she hopped and dragged her leg...and then she got better quickly. We ran and hit a barrel to make the finals--she was still hairless on her leg where she hit the guidewire and you could see it in our pics. I wouldn't have run her if she hadn't been traveling normally. Once they are mostly recovered, movement and use will help with that last little hit. Acupuncture will help too. |
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Sexy Bee Yacht
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Location: WA | Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-09 10:33 AM When I was a kid, my mare did that about 3 weeks before the world show. Spent a week hand walking while she hopped and dragged her leg...and then she got better quickly. We ran and hit a barrel to make the finals--she was still hairless on her leg where she hit the guidewire and you could see it in our pics. I wouldn't have run her if she hadn't been traveling normally. Once they are mostly recovered, movement and use will help with that last little hit. Acupuncture will help too.
I have her out on pasture. Vet wanted her in a small paddock but my other area to put her has rough ground and she wants her calm on fairly level ground. She will run and overuse it if I pull her off. Her pec was pretty sore day of, but I can massage it now and she doesn't react. Would acupressure do that same good or just acupuncture? I don't have an acupunturist on the list of professionals who pamper that pony.
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Location: 31 lengths farms | My gelding was a full 8 weeks, he traveled sound in the straightaway at about 5 weeks, off in circles to the right (left front was affected) for another 2 weeks. The other issue was for about 6 months he had issues over reaching on that side, didn't clear his front foot sometimes especially if he got tired. I would think acupressure would be the next best thing if you can't find an acupuncturist. Or someone who does BioScan or AcuScope. |
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Sexy Bee Yacht
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Location: WA | run n rate - 2014-09-09 10:47 AM My gelding was a full 8 weeks, he traveled sound in the straightaway at about 5 weeks, off in circles to the right (left front was affected) for another 2 weeks. The other issue was for about 6 months he had issues over reaching on that side, didn't clear his front foot sometimes especially if he got tired. I would think acupressure would be the next best thing if you can't find an acupuncturist. Or someone who does BioScan or AcuScope.
Just trying to compare cases... what did he look like a week out? Still not fully extending? Or ok at a walk but not circles? |
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 You get what you give
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Location: Texas | Wow, first off, that's incredible he's using the leg at all. I would be very cautious about it. nerves grow back VERY slowly if they grow back at all… so if there's damage I would not push anything.
Do you have videos of your horse moving that way? I am in vet school and my first year prof from last year teaches intro to neurology and I'm sure he would love to see that. |
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Sexy Bee Yacht
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Location: WA | casualdust07 - 2014-09-09 1:18 PM Wow, first off, that's incredible he's using the leg at all. I would be very cautious about it. nerves grow back VERY slowly if they grow back at all… so if there's damage I would not push anything. Do you have videos of your horse moving that way? I am in vet school and my first year prof from last year teaches intro to neurology and I'm sure he would love to see that.
She didn't sever the nerve. If I am reading your post correct. Just hit it very hard. I only have a video from Saturday morning and it isn't super clear. I was remiss to get one on Friday, I was more worried about what had happened, what to do with her overnight without her hurting herself worse, etc. I don't think her case is nearly as severe as others have seen. I tried to find videos on youtube of similar cases and what I found wasn't comparative to her. |
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Sexy Bee Yacht
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Location: WA | http://youtu.be/2kZA_T8De6w
This was the morning after vet saw her and started treating.
Today I believe her to be walking with no impairment. When I gave her morning meds I wasn't sure if she was about 95% or if I was just wanting to see something. To someone who did not see her Friday, I believe they would see a sound horse. When I can't sneak up on her in field to catch her, she will lope in just fine with the others. I am trying to keep her from loping, hence the quietly going out to get her for meds. |
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Sexy Bee Yacht
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Location: WA | I watched her real close tonight when I gave her her meds. There is still a slight delay in her lifting that right leg at a walk. I am not taking her to finals, I will take my other mare to run. You know, the one with less than 10 runs on her. ;-) What could possibly go wrong? Lol..... I will sure miss my 2D runs being on the super green horse, but hell, sink or swim right? Let's just hope she knows how to swim! |
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You get what you give
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Location: Texas | Yeah I know she didn't sever it… there would be no coming back from that, and you would not see any improvement. I was just saying since there's damage whatever damage is there will be slow healing. But hopefully it's just inflammation since the dex is working so well. |
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Location: Texas | Lisantwist - 2014-09-09 9:41 PM
I watched her real close tonight when I gave her her meds. There is still a slight delay in her lifting that right leg at a walk. I am not taking her to finals, I will take my other mare to run. You know, the one with less than 10 runs on her. ;-) What could possibly go wrong? Lol..... I will sure miss my 2D runs being on the super green horse, but hell, sink or swim right? Let's just hope she knows how to swim!
I've been there done that on big entries coming up that I paid into and last minute My #1 came up hurt. Like, I bought my Rookie card for the WPRA and my horse proceeded to strain her suspensory and I missed 5th months of my rookie season which I can never get back. Needless to say I didn't accomplish near what I wanted that year. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | casualdust07 - 2014-09-10 8:25 AM Lisantwist - 2014-09-09 9:41 PM I watched her real close tonight when I gave her her meds. There is still a slight delay in her lifting that right leg at a walk. I am not taking her to finals, I will take my other mare to run. You know, the one with less than 10 runs on her. ;-) What could possibly go wrong? Lol..... I will sure miss my 2D runs being on the super green horse, but hell, sink or swim right? Let's just hope she knows how to swim! I've been there done that on big entries coming up that I paid into and last minute My #1 came up hurt. Like, I bought my Rookie card for the WPRA and my horse proceeded to strain her suspensory and I missed 5th months of my rookie season which I can never get back. Needless to say I didn't accomplish near what I wanted that year.
Yeah, the year I was going to haul for my circuit finals, my horse hurt himself at the trailer at our 3rd rodeo of the year (set back and flipped), and wasn't running right after that. Then he tore a muscle in his hip a couple of months later and was never totally sound again. I had also bought a new LQ trailer that year since I was planning to haul hard and my travel partner (my mom) wanted a real toilet. LOL. We make plans and God laughs...
good luck with your colt! |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Week out Lisa he was doing the graduation march, step together step. He could not extend the leg forward by himself. He could stretch it forward if you manipulated it but couldn't reach it forward by himself until about the 2 week mark, couldn't trot until about the 3 week mark and it was still kind of ugly at that point. Vet said he used to see quite a few of these type injuries in the two horse straight load trailer with mangers if the driver had to stop or got stopped suddenly. Horses got thrown against the mangers. |
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Sexy Bee Yacht
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Location: WA | Yeah, I love this horse too much to run her and risk something worse happening.
To the vet student, sorry, guess I read your post wrong. Thinking back, yeah, I guess a severed nerve would not have any leg movement, huh? I should check when I posted that. I have been having a glass of wine before dinner on an empty stomach lately. I can't be held accountable for what I post in that condition. ;-)
My "colt" that I am taking is off the track. Been few years since she ran, but here is our list of what is going against us next weekend. What we have going for us is a horse that tries hard and one hell of a postitive attitude! Since day one part of me has really known this horse would succeed. I know she is going to make something great... a couple 5D checks would just be nice. Lol.
1. She has never been ran without time onlys. When I pre entered I was taken the seasoned the horse who doesn't need them. Now they are all sold out.
2. Never been ran inside.
3. Hates being stalled.
4. Never been ran 3 days in a row (I am hoping this will help us improve each day).
5. Never been hauled 4 hours away from home by herself.
I am sure there are more. But a horse can't shine if you don't put a little pressure on them. Granted, last race we ran she fought me turning off at the end and crashed up into a fence and broke it. So we know what the "what's the worse that can happen" is, right? Lol. |
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