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Location: Somewhere around here | I was thinking back to earlier this year when I entered my 5 year old for the first time in a bigger barrel race (meaning there were more than just exhibitions and the open). We entered the Novice Horse and I knew we weren't going to be the fastest times or anything, just wanted my horse to get more experience. Horse did good, had a high 4D time so I was happy but later on when the results were posted there were two problems. I knew that a specific rider knocked down a barrel, resulting in a no time, but she was posted like nothing happened. Then another lady missed her run but she was posted too. This wasn't a large class, maybe 10 horses at the max, so it was easy to keep track but I just thought it was a little fishy. Talked to my husband and a friend of mine and they agreed something seemed off. I tried talking to one of the computer ladies about it but they were sort of rude and denied anything. I do know that you can roll your times to the open but I didn't think you could roll a time into anything else. I didn't really care too much about it, I was just happy that my horse didn't knock down any barrels or spook but thinking back at it now should I have tried talking to a producer about it? And has anything like this has happened to you at a barrel race too? |
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 I Chore in Chucks
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Location: MD | yes it actually happened to me. I was given a time at a large spring event for 1.5 seconds faster than I actually ran. I knew what I ran and knew the fast time and didn't bother to look at the results until I heard someone whispering the next day about how I didn't run that time, and who's butt they should kiss to make that happen to them too. I was so upset, because the new time issued "won" me a check. Obviously I said something and got it fixed so other people could get checks because I couldn't take it. I was so upset, and it still bothers me that people think I would do something like that, but it was then I realized that often even with the automated systems times and placings get misconstrued. So when I thought to myself, oh I thought someone knocked, I guess not.. They just might have. say something to the producer if the computer people aren't going to do anything about it.
not to be a tattle tale but, these are other peoples points and if they shouldn't have placed, they shouldn't get the reward the person who actually placed should! And if the producer knows, then they'll be more aware there is mistakes happening in that office more than everyone might believe. I don't go out of my way to check for errors, but if I see one from now on, I'll say something. |
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| Yes. It made me seriously pissy. Only it was over 1D stuff. I was not a happy camper. I go and pay for exhibitions, but I don't enter anymore. They're not stealing from me again. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I went to a horseshow one time to make a practice run and the people there weren't familiar with my horse. He had a huge stride and could absolutely fly without looking like he was doing more than a high lope, so when my time was half a second faster than 2nd place, there were some ugly remarks made about how it wasn't possible and the timers had messed up.
I have seen downed barrels be missed, but most people are honest enough to fess up and if they don't, someone will do it for them.  |
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Location: North Dakota | Just had that happen at a local playday this year.
The girl who won the pole bending knocked over a pole. When they announced it, she even commented that the results weren't right and admitted she knocked over a pole ...... but she walked back to her trailer and didn't do anything about it.
I went up into the crow's nest and brought it to their attention, but they didn't change it. It didn't affect me any as she still would have been faster than me, but there was a different girl who should have won, which was not fair to her.
And they DID give away a high point award for the day, so to me, getting the results right are important.
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Location: North Dakota | Yep, people make mistakes.....most are gracious about it, and some....well....they are crooks. sorry it happened to you. There is a very nice breast collar running around on a paint horse that should be at my house on my sorrel because someone "figured" wrong.... |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-12 8:56 AM
I went to a horseshow one time to make a practice run and the people there weren't familiar with my horse. He had a huge stride and could absolutely fly without looking like he was doing more than a high lope, so when my time was half a second faster than 2nd place, there were some ugly remarks made about how it wasn't possible and the timers had messed up.
I have seen downed barrels be missed, but most people are honest enough to fess up and if they don't, someone will do it for them.
This has happened to me! I had a big bay horse that looked like he was moving in slow motion but could cover some ground. Someone tried to have me rerun because they thought the timer malfunctioned and that I didn't really win! I told them were to go and how to get there real quick! Never went back to that race! |
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Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-12 8:56 AM I went to a horseshow one time to make a practice run and the people there weren't familiar with my horse. He had a huge stride and could absolutely fly without looking like he was doing more than a high lope, so when my time was half a second faster than 2nd place, there were some ugly remarks made about how it wasn't possible and the timers had messed up.
I have seen downed barrels be missed, but most people are honest enough to fess up and if they don't, someone will do it for them.
HA - yep, around here SOMEONE would tell on you FOR SURE! (Although you would think whoever what recording times would notice a downed barrel - I mean, it takes time to put it back up and it's pretty obvious). |
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| My time (money earner) was given to the person who ran just before me. There was a scratch in my drag and the computer didn't give the scratch a NT. Checks were sent out and results posted before I realized the mistake.. I called management, they had back up hand written times that confirmed my time and I was mailed a check immediately. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | classicpotatochip - 2014-09-12 7:42 AM Yes. It made me seriously pissy. Only it was over 1D stuff. I was not a happy camper. I go and pay for exhibitions, but I don't enter anymore. They're not stealing from me again.
I won a 3D saddle once. Never got it. I actually never would have known had I not looked at the results the final day as it was an average saddle and if you added my times and the gal (that they gave the saddle to) her average was actually mine and the average they had down for me (2nd place) was hers. I had a really crappy weekend as he was usually a 2D horse, but to this day I have never won a saddle. Sure bummed me out, and yes I did mention it to the produces and was pretty much told to get lost. Never entered that race again. |
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Location: Florida | My niece was running a series for a saddle and she won the first month. The second month her time was a full second slower. We just said, huh, guess he wasn't running and didn't worry about it. The next month a local came up and told my sister that she happened to be in the bird house when my niece ran and she actually won it but the guy added a full second so his daughter won instead. Of course we couldn't prove anything but I had my sister go up there for the entire class from then on out to "video her run." It worked, they couldn't cheat in front of her and she did win the saddle. Lesson learned: make sure someone besides the in crowd is up there watching the timing. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | LMS - 2014-09-12 10:08 AM Yep, people make mistakes.....most are gracious about it, and some....well....they are crooks. sorry it happened to you. There is a very nice breast collar running around on a paint horse that should be at my house on my sorrel because someone "figured" wrong....
I hav a very nice breast collar too running around - only these people forged my name and got it. I left early and didn't realize I had won a D average. |
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Location: Somewhere around here | Wow I'm really surprised that this has actually happened in more places! Really sucks about all the tack though. Makes me wonder if I should stay until to complete end of a race day then. |
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Location: Centerburg, OH | Once I was at a big outdoor JP. Producers that I adore. Had a decent run I thought. The announced a 19 something. I was so embarresd. Next day or so when I checked the results I was listed as a 17 something. middle of the 2D. More what I felt that the run was. O well. |
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Location: Texas | Yes it has except I was he person it benefitted. I had a crAp run and driving home I looked at the results and it had placed me in the 1d. I was like wth? And called my friend to double check my time and we were both like that's not right so I called and messages the producers and they made it right. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Yes, it's happened to me more than once, but as soon as it was brought to the producer's attention, the mistake was rectified. I can't imagine them telling you to go get lost!!! I was a little disappointed when one time a guy hit a barrel and they called out his name for placing, and he'd already picked up his money....I told the producers and they announced for him to come back up to the announcer's stand and got it straightened out, but if you only ran 1 horse and it hit a barrel, would you pick up money??? Made me really disappointed in that person. I would have just told them that they made a mistake because I hit a barrel, but not him, I guess. |
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| A long time ago before nbha, i was at a aqha show and imwas just learning and most ofmthentime just out of the money, but i had gotton a little help and my horse was better indoors. My husband was standing behind the just and timer and when i ran i had a much improved run from what i used too so when i posted like the second fasted time out of about 40 head someone told thenjudge the timer did work i ran like a 15.1 they, made me rerun i did a 15. 3 and got 5th. Also about 7 or 8 years ago had a nice little run in sweepstakes at augusta at nbha world. When they posted the results, i was no where on the list one of my friends had a video camera watched it made sure of my time, took the camera, went in the office, they pulled the tape, wrote me a check on the spot. But i was upset, and should have made a issue, they never changed the results, even to equistat. I often wonder how much that happends. |
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