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 The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | Okay, I'm not the brightest bulb on the string but I'm having a hard time making a direct comparison between CSI and Saddleright pads.
Here are my questions:
1. What is the thickness of each?
2. Is this correct - you buy a liner to protect the Saddle right but the CSI has a liner you replace every 2-3 years?
3. The CSI liner is 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch - so is that actually the thickness of the pad or is it even thicker wirth the rest of the saddlepad?
4. The Saddleright has an optional 1/8 inch wood pad to keep the saddlepad clean - and they suggest you put a thin Navajo pad under that?
I ride both a treed and treeless saddle. One horse is a thinner racier bodied horse (still young) and the other is a big ole gal - stout Blue valentine mare. I'm heavier than I should be so i want a pad that will protect the horse but also stop saddles from slipping. |
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 A Somebody to Everybody
Posts: 41354
Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Wait for a bit and ole Cowboy_1989 will try to sell you a CSI pad.
I have heard good things about the CSI pads, my buddy sells them and loves them, I myself use 5 Stars so I am of no help. But like I said I hear good things about them  |
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The Bird Lady
Posts: 6440
Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-22 2:50 PM Wait for a bit and ole Cowboy_1989 will try to sell you a CSI pad.
I have heard good things about the CSI pads, my buddy sells them and loves them, I myself use 5 Stars so I am of no help. But like I said I hear good things about them
Yeah, I've see the posts and I don't respond well to overly agressive marketing, not that she's doing that, bless her heart.
My problem is that the Saddleright website makes my head hurt and its hard for me to get much out of it. I thought I wanted a Saddleright until I heard others say good things about CSI.
But being a biologist, I want the FACTS! I have questions! And I'm not bright enough to wade through the 2 websites to find the answers if they are there. And the biggest question I cant find the answer to is after you get the pad and the liners and what not, how thick are EACH? |
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 Accident Prone
Posts: 22277
Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rollingrfarm - 2014-09-22 3:05 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-22 2:50 PM Wait for a bit and ole Cowboy_1989 will try to sell you a CSI pad.
I have heard good things about the CSI pads, my buddy sells them and loves them, I myself use 5 Stars so I am of no help. But like I said I hear good things about them
My problem is that the Saddleright website makes my head hurt and its hard for me to get much out of it. I thought I wanted a Saddleright until I heard others say good things about CSI.
But being a biologist, I want the FACTS! I have questions! And I'm not bright enough to wade through the 2 websites to find the answers if they are there. And the biggest question I cant find the answer to is after you get the pad and the liners and what not, how thick are EACH?
Come visit me. Seriously. I have all the options you want to look at. |
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Accident Prone
Posts: 22277
Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Oh, and the plate part of the csi adds about 1/2" in those areas in addition to the liner. The SaddleRight is about 1/2" and can be used alone or with a felt liner or with a Navajo. |
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Regular
Posts: 73
| I have had a saddle right pad for years it used to be the only pad I ever used. I loved the pad but noticed that my mare still would get a lil back sore. I purchased my csi pad last December and I have not had one problem with my horses back. I love the csi pad and I would buy another if I needed. My mare tends to be a lil sway backed and I feel it has much more stability then my sade right pad was. |
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The Bird Lady
Posts: 6440
Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-22 3:10 PM rollingrfarm - 2014-09-22 3:05 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-22 2:50 PM Wait for a bit and ole Cowboy_1989 will try to sell you a CSI pad.
I have heard good things about the CSI pads, my buddy sells them and loves them, I myself use 5 Stars so I am of no help. But like I said I hear good things about them
My problem is that the Saddleright website makes my head hurt and its hard for me to get much out of it. I thought I wanted a Saddleright until I heard others say good things about CSI.
But being a biologist, I want the FACTS! I have questions! And I'm not bright enough to wade through the 2 websites to find the answers if they are there. And the biggest question I cant find the answer to is after you get the pad and the liners and what not, how thick are EACH?
Well since I am taking full and half days off in October to ride, I will have time to come down and let you show me your pads. I will definitely take you up on it. I didn't know you had a CSI. You know the body types of the horses I'll be riding. |
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 Experienced Mouse Trapper
Posts: 3106
Location: North Dakota | read this: look for my description:
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=454325&posts=24&mid=7051041&highlight=&highlightmode=1&action=search#M7051041
There is a liner for the saddleright, basically a very thin wool liner that keeps the underside clean I didn't care for it, it was hard to get centered and adjusted evenly IMO. The CSI has flex plate technology top and then the wool pad that velcros to the top. The saddleright has leather/suede top with a "shock absorbing" material-which to me looks like a 8" wide piece of rubber- with a very nice real wool bottom. The top of the CSI is about 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick and then there is 2 different sized liners a 1/2 and a 3/4. Both pads should last a very long time-they are built with materials that are long living. I sold my saddleright to a gal that was riding a treeless. I have a CSI because my saddle doesn't fit my horses that great and I'm on the heavier side. |
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Accident Prone
Posts: 22277
Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rollingrfarm - 2014-09-22 3:33 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-09-22 3:10 PM rollingrfarm - 2014-09-22 3:05 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-09-22 2:50 PM Wait for a bit and ole Cowboy_1989 will try to sell you a CSI pad.
I have heard good things about the CSI pads, my buddy sells them and loves them, I myself use 5 Stars so I am of no help. But like I said I hear good things about them
My problem is that the Saddleright website makes my head hurt and its hard for me to get much out of it. I thought I wanted a Saddleright until I heard others say good things about CSI.
But being a biologist, I want the FACTS! I have questions! And I'm not bright enough to wade through the 2 websites to find the answers if they are there. And the biggest question I cant find the answer to is after you get the pad and the liners and what not, how thick are EACH?
Just let me know when you want to come. If you can, bring your horses and saddles. If you can't bring the horses, I do know what they look like so we can guesstimate using mine. |
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 Special Somebody
Posts: 3951
Location: Finally horseback again.... | I had all these questions too, but I dont like the CSI reps shoving them down my throat.
I got lucky and attended an auction a few weeks ago and ran across a saddleright pad. Bought it brand new for 25 dollars. LOL. I had been looking at them and wanted to try one but couldnt justify the price without knowing.
So that in mind, I have a wide backed mare that I ride with a Tammy Fischer treeless. I was having problems with the saddle rolling.
The saddleright is very thin, leather top with a wool bottom, this one didnt have a liner. I started using it. Absolutely no rolling and my saddle stays in the middle of her much better. Her back hasnt been out of alignment since I started with it.
I bought a second one used that has a liner, I cant tell alot of differnce it the two with or without. Over all with the liner, it is about 1/2 think tops.
Im sold, I like them for my treeless saddles.
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Posts: 1664
Location: iowa | i have tried both and feel the saddleright has more stability. i dont use a liner with mine. i have 2 and i wouldnt trade them for anything. |
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The Advice Guru
Posts: 6419
| I have both and don't sell either.
The saddle right on my wide horses that no saddle fits that well since they are flat backed, the saddle right rolled and sored the horse up significantly, when I did the feel test under the saddle there were no pressure points.
The csi with the same saddle and same horse the csi rolled worse then the saddle right, but didn't sore her up as much.
My horses that were not as wide I have never had a problem with the csi, I have two crown c saddles and use a csi under neath both, the 10 gullet I don't shim, the csi pad keeps it in place well enough, the 11 flat is currently too big for the horse and I shim with a natural wool shim with no problems.
If your horse is very compact or doesn't like pads on the pelvis, you may not want a csi as the shortest she makes is 30 she will try and convince you to buy a 32, when she manufactured them with neoprene you could get 28, I have bought some of these then ordered the insert.
Also my inserts have lasted 4 years and counting, not compressed, and still flexible.
The csi will conform more to the body then the saddleright in my opinion, when I pull them off they still have the shape of the horse if I set them on the ground, the saddle right does not.
If you want the best csi inset the merino wool liner is thinner and the wool is that like the shearling pro choice cinches, these are 100 more then the regular inserts, this is going to be my next purchase.
I will also throw in the wade for the mix, some say they are too rigid, I have a plain pad and I do not find it rigid, so it may be all the extras that make the pad rigid, I find these also conform to the horses body and hold shape. These are made in 28 and I have used it on a few horses but not the really wide one, and not with the crown c saddles, but have had no rolling, and no pain issues. |
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