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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | Okay, I am going to bite the bullet and ask for an honest (no bashing the other one) comparison as to why you think your ulcer supplement is better. I need to know cost per month for treatment and cost per month for maintenance, along with your pitch to try to get me to buy. I am a complete believer in Ulcergard and the need to use it, but am in a money crunch right now .. but have to do something for ulcers... and GO!
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Namesless in BHW
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | This could get interesting!
Edited by total performance 2014-10-21 12:39 PM
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | total performance - 2014-10-21 12:38 PM This could get interesting!
They better play nice! LOL! |
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Expert
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Location: IL | Following...I can't wait to read the response!! |
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The Advice Guru
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| I suggest messaging BOB, and Douglas individually and privately. These two would be the experts on their product, then you can choose the route you want to go |
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I am a Freak
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Location: Nowhere Special | I hope they both answer I am in the same boat and need to get something ASAP. I already use THE but would like to get information on Douglas product as well. I have never had to treat for ulcers before so this could be very benificial |
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The Original Cyber Bartender
Location: Washington | OMG.......LOL |
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Expert
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| I recently ordered a bunch for $140 plus shipping from Dr. Ford. Its in a tube form, easy to administer, and has a buffering agent that is generic but comparable to ulcer guard's patented carrier system. I used OTC but i don't feel my gelding got all treatments bc it was hard to administer and time. He was showing symptoms of ulcers and now he is not...so I'm assuming it worked. |
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | astreakinchic - 2014-10-21 1:03 PM I recently ordered a bunch for $140 plus shipping from Dr. Ford. Its in a tube form, easy to administer, and has a buffering agent that is generic but comparable to ulcer guard's patented carrier system. I used OTC but i don't feel my gelding got all treatments bc it was hard to administer and time. He was showing symptoms of ulcers and now he is not...so I'm assuming it worked.
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BHW's Lance Armstrong
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Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | I know absolutley nothing about THE and I do not know the rep. I am a firm believer in my own products and do not bash others. Only bash Compounders for Bute Powder, LOL... It is kind of like this. In a race, I never look back. I can only concentrate on what I am doing. I don't worry about the competition.
Omeprazole is a proven healer of ulcers at the correct concentration leavel per day. 2.28 grams per day. UlcerCure OTC also has Calcium Carbonate (Tums) to buffer acid to help ulcer heal. Aspartame so it will taste good. Treating is very easy. Treating for ulcers is 1 scoop per day of the 20cc scoop. $3 per day Treating for maintenance is 1/2-1 scoop per day of the 10cc scoop. Depending on the horse. So that is either .75-$1.50 per day for maintenance.
I have had clients have their horses scooped before and after with the ulcers totally healed. Most clients suspect ulcers but don't know for sure and just run a treatment.
If your horse has ulcers, and UlcerCure OTC doesn't heal them it is a 100% money back guarantee! Probably the best answer about the success of my product would come from the people that have used it from BHW.
With that said, UlcerCure OTC doesn't solve bad behavior. I have only had to return money once because the woman didn't know if her horse had ulcers or not and during the treatment she wasn't seeing any improvement in her horses behavior and wanted her money back so I returned it.
UlcerCure OTC doesn't guarantee your horse will do back flips after a treatment!
Edited by Douglas J Gordon 2014-10-21 2:10 PM
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Extreme Veteran
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| Doug, does your supplement come packaged in drag from the thrift store? That is how you know which product is which. Just kidding!! Or if one spends more do you send firecrackers? |
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BHW's Lance Armstrong
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Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | I will answer any questions anyone wants to ask. |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | cheryl makofka - 2014-10-21 11:51 AM
I suggest messaging BOB, and Douglas individually and privately. These two would be the experts on their product, then you can choose the route you want to go
I agree with this. Bob knows the ins and outs of his products. I am a believer because I have used them and have seen results. I know Bob has studies done that include vets and some of the top trainers in the business. GastroPLUS produces results on front and hind gut ulcers. I have heard hind gut are rare, but it is nice to know they are being taken care of. I'll show this to Bob and see if he can give you all the details of his great ulcer supplements. |
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Extreme Veteran
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| Douglas J Gordon - 2014-10-21 1:59 PM
I will answer any questions anyone wants to ask.
Ok real question, is there side effects in horses from long term use of omperazole type products? I have been on the stuff and had a few issues myself. |
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BHW's Lance Armstrong
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Location: Somewhere between S@% stirrer and Saint | rowdy256 - 2014-10-21 2:01 PM Douglas J Gordon - 2014-10-21 1:59 PM I will answer any questions anyone wants to ask. Ok real question, is there side effects in horses from long term use of omperazole type products? I have been on the stuff and had a few issues myself.
It is not good to dose a horse for long periods of time with ulcer treatment level. They need to be cycled on and off. No product of any kind should be used for long periods of time. |
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Tough Patooty
Posts: 2615
Location: Sperry, OK | Douglas J Gordon - 2014-10-21 1:54 PM I know absolutley nothing about THE and I do not know the rep. I am a firm believer in my own products and do not bash others. Only bash Compounders for Bute Powder, LOL... It is kind of like this. In a race, I never look back. I can only concentrate on what I am doing. I don't worry about the competition.
Omeprazole is a proven healer of ulcers at the correct concentration leavel per day. 2.28 grams per day.
UlcerCure OTC also has Calcium Carbonate (Tums) to buffer acid to help ulcer heal.
Aspartame so it will taste good. Treating is very easy.
Treating for ulcers is 1 scoop per day of the 20cc scoop. $3 per day
Treating for maintenance is 1/2-1 scoop per day of the 10cc scoop. Depending on the horse. So that is either .75-$1.50 per day for maintenance.
I have had clients have their horses scooped before and after with the ulcers totally healed.
Most clients suspect ulcers but don't know for sure and just run a treatment.
If your horse has ulcers, and UlcerCure OTC doesn't heal them it is a 100% money back guarantee! Probably the best answer about the success of my product would come from the people that have used it from BHW.
With that said, UlcerCure OTC doesn't solve bad behavior. I have only had to return money once because the woman didn't know if her horse had ulcers or not and during the treatment she wasn't seeing any improvement in her horses behavior and wanted her money back so I returned it.
UlcerCure OTC doesn't guarantee your horse will do back flips after a treatment!
Thank you Sir! |
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Good Grief!
Posts: 6343
Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | i have used ulcercure otc and it worked, i do use a chunk of hose to administer it though.....waaayyy easier....
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Tough Patooty
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Location: Sperry, OK | mruggles - 2014-10-21 2:16 PM i have used ulcercure otc and it worked, i do use a chunk of hose to administer it though.....waaayyy easier....
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A chunk of hose? |
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Extreme Veteran
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| Douglas J Gordon - 2014-10-21 2:12 PM
rowdy256 - 2014-10-21 2:01 PM Douglas J Gordon - 2014-10-21 1:59 PM I will answer any questions anyone wants to ask. Ok real question, is there side effects in horses from long term use of omperazole type products? I have been on the stuff and had a few issues myself.
It is not good to dose a horse for long periods of time with ulcer treatment level. They need to be cycled on and off. No product of any kind should be used for long periods of time.
Cool, that is what I thought. Thank you! |
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Good Grief!
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-10-22 1:18 PM mruggles - 2014-10-21 2:16 PM i have used ulcercure otc and it worked, i do use a chunk of hose to administer it though.....waaayyy easier....
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yes maam.....its about a foot or so...it has to be sturdy, i use a chunk of garden hose.....i use it for any and all powder meds....i stick a funnel on the one end dump in the meds and stick an end in the horses mouth and blow on the other......
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