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hbrandranch
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-11-04 6:02 AM
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 I'm not 100% of how this works so am asking:  I have 2 colts by same sire.  They have the same granddam.  Would they be considered 3/4 brothers?  7/8 brothers?  I don't know how that works.  Here are their pedigrees.  Thanks very much!!

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smart+little+stone

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/smokin+koa+lena
 
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Mighty Broke
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-11-04 6:55 AM
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I would consider them 3/4 siblings.
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Nita
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Posted 2014-11-04 7:13 AM
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I'd say three fourths, also.
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RacingQH
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-11-04 8:10 AM
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In order to be 7/8, you would go back one more generation. There are 8 horses in that generation. If 7 of those 8 horses are the same, they are 7/8 siblings. $ay your boys were mares, and you bred them to the same stallion, THOSE babies would be 7/8 siblings.
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-11-04 8:15 AM
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Not to steal this thread, but I hear people say that they have horses that are 1/2 siblings - by the same stallion but out of different mares. However, I heard that in some industries, that is not correct. Which is right?
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Mighty Broke
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-11-04 9:34 AM
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Murphy - 2014-11-04 9:15 AM Not to steal this thread, but I hear people say that they have horses that are 1/2 siblings - by the same stallion but out of different mares. However, I heard that in some industries, that is not correct. Which is right?

Half siblings are out of the same mare. If they have the same sire they are just considered by the same sire even though genetically they are 50-50. It is just terminology, I think this was started back in the olden days when a mare only had one foal but a stallion could have many. Times have changed in the QH industry but it still holds true in the TB industry.
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-11-04 9:36 AM
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Mighty Broke - 2014-11-04 10:34 AM
Murphy - 2014-11-04 9:15 AM Not to steal this thread, but I hear people say that they have horses that are 1/2 siblings - by the same stallion but out of different mares. However, I heard that in some industries, that is not correct. Which is right?
Half siblings are out of the same mare. If they have the same sire they are just considered by the same sire even though genetically they are 50-50. It is just terminology, I think this was started back in the olden days when a mare only had one foal but a stallion could have many. Times have changed in the QH industry but it still holds true in the TB industry.

That's what I always went by also. I don't think it's quite "fair" to consider horses 1/2 siblings from a stud who can have 100 colts a year, to one for a mare. 
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hbrandranch
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-11-04 11:06 AM
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Thanks everyone!!  Glad to have that cleared up!!  
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Mighty Broke
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2014-11-04 11:46 AM
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Murphy - 2014-11-04 10:36 AM
Mighty Broke - 2014-11-04 10:34 AM
Murphy - 2014-11-04 9:15 AM Not to steal this thread, but I hear people say that they have horses that are 1/2 siblings - by the same stallion but out of different mares. However, I heard that in some industries, that is not correct. Which is right?
Half siblings are out of the same mare. If they have the same sire they are just considered by the same sire even though genetically they are 50-50. It is just terminology, I think this was started back in the olden days when a mare only had one foal but a stallion could have many. Times have changed in the QH industry but it still holds true in the TB industry.
That's what I always went by also. I don't think it's quite "fair" to consider horses 1/2 siblings from a stud who can have 100 colts a year, to one for a mare. 

Sort of a pet peeve of mine LOL. That and the "By" and "Out Of " thing, another pet peeve of mine---petty, yes, but it still bugs me. LOL.
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brlraceaddict
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-11-04 12:42 PM
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Mighty Broke - 2014-11-04 9:46 AM

Murphy - 2014-11-04 10:36 AM
Mighty Broke - 2014-11-04 10:34 AM
Murphy - 2014-11-04 9:15 AM Not to steal this thread, but I hear people say that they have horses that are 1/2 siblings - by the same stallion but out of different mares. However, I heard that in some industries, that is not correct. Which is right?
Half siblings are out of the same mare. If they have the same sire they are just considered by the same sire even though genetically they are 50-50. It is just terminology, I think this was started back in the olden days when a mare only had one foal but a stallion could have many. Times have changed in the QH industry but it still holds true in the TB industry.
That's what I always went by also. I don't think it's quite "fair" to consider horses 1/2 siblings from a stud who can have 100 colts a year, to one for a mare. 

Sort of a pet peeve of mine LOL. That and the "By" and "Out Of " thing, another pet peeve of mine---petty, yes, but it still bugs me. LOL.

My pet peeve too MB - I know - truly petty but it kills me when people say out of a stallion.
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QH<3er
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Posted 2014-11-04 1:30 PM
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Sort of a pet peeve of mine LOL. That and the "By" and "Out Of " thing, another pet peeve of mine---petty, yes, but it still bugs me. LOL.

My pet peeve too MB - I know - truly petty but it kills me when people say out of a stallion.
Me too!!! It's such a little thing but it just gets me irritated. Seriously , think about what you just said. How can a baby "come out" of a stud horse... it just doesn't happen.
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