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When you sell a horse with "issues"

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Whoop Z Day Z
Reg. Sep 2007
Posted 2014-11-07 8:17 PM
Subject: RE: When you sell a horse with "issues"


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sold with "as is" wording in Bill of Sale is all my lawyer said you need to have... in TX anyway... you disclosed the issues now its their problem!
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2014-11-07 8:31 PM
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Give them my number......I'll set them straight bahaha
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mam0329
Reg. Jul 2009
Posted 2014-11-07 8:50 PM
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Sounds like you just need to figure out what you want to do. If they bought him as you have described then I would leave it be and tell them to stop bothering you. Or you could do the offer to buy back at half the cost and try to resale, if you want to go threw all of the hassle again. Good Luck.
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mtcanchazer
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-11-07 8:53 PM
Subject: RE: When you sell a horse with "issues"



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Whoop Z Day Z - 2014-11-07 7:17 PM sold with "as is" wording in Bill of Sale is all my lawyer said you need to have... in TX anyway... you disclosed the issues now its their problem!

Same here in Montana on other things, never done it with a horse. I would say it is the new owners' problem.  
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-11-08 1:31 AM
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After 40+ years of selling horses, I will tell you that no matter what you do, they're going to badmouth you. Don't worry about it and go on about your business. You told them the issues, you didn't twist their arm or hold a gun to their heads to buy the horse, they signed an "as is" contract and you have no obligation to even talk to them. If you offer to buy him back or help them in any way, you are admitting "guilt" in the eyes of the court and that could give them reason to sue (if they're so inclined). If that was a car and they bought it off a lot w/an "as is" contract, do you think the dealership would give them the time of day??? No. Block their number and forget about it. I swear no one takes personal responsibility for their actions any more. smh
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2014-11-08 9:37 AM
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dianeguinn - 2014-11-08 1:31 AM

After 40+ years of selling horses, I will tell you that no matter what you do, they're going to badmouth you. Don't worry about it and go on about your business. You told them the issues, you didn't twist their arm or hold a gun to their heads to buy the horse, they signed an "as is" contract and you have no obligation to even talk to them. If you offer to buy him back or help them in any way, you are admitting "guilt" in the eyes of the court and that could give them reason to sue (if they're so inclined). If that was a car and they bought it off a lot w/an "as is" contract, do you think the dealership would give them the time of day??? No. Block their number and forget about it. I swear no one takes personal responsibility for their actions any more. smh

This.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-11-08 9:44 AM
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I would not take the horse back. You gave full disclosure. 
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Nita
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-11-08 3:15 PM
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GLP - 2014-11-08 9:37 AM

dianeguinn - 2014-11-08 1:31 AM

After 40+ years of selling horses, I will tell you that no matter what you do, they're going to badmouth you. Don't worry about it and go on about your business. You told them the issues, you didn't twist their arm or hold a gun to their heads to buy the horse, they signed an "as is" contract and you have no obligation to even talk to them. If you offer to buy him back or help them in any way, you are admitting "guilt" in the eyes of the court and that could give them reason to sue (if they're so inclined). If that was a car and they bought it off a lot w/an "as is" contract, do you think the dealership would give them the time of day??? No. Block their number and forget about it. I swear no one takes personal responsibility for their actions any more. smh

This.

Yep... ^^ what she said!
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SoFast
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-09 4:41 PM
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I have a hard time with the badmouthing, it is really upsetting me and I really am not good at confrontation and don't feel prepared yet to respond, so I have not responded, but they are being very disrespectful. Accusing of drugging the horse and a whole schpeel of other things. 30+ years of selling horses and this is my first experience with an unhappy and unreasonable buyer.

Edited by SoFast 2014-11-09 4:56 PM
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AmazingStretch
Reg. Jan 2013
Posted 2014-11-09 5:02 PM
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You're always going to have people who don't want to take responsibility for their actions. I sold a horse, not cheap at all IMO, and made an "as is" contract.. Well, the next day they decided they didn't want him anymore because the girl couldn't get along with him. Long story short- I took him back and ended up with a horse that was lame for 8 months and still to this day has issues that he didn't have before I sold him. I learned that lesson the hard way. Sold with an "as is" contact means it's a done deal. You don't know how much worst they've made the issue by now or if he's even sound 
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Runaway
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2014-11-09 5:26 PM
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Depends on what state you are in.  Verbal does not exist in some states, and in some states, verbal may be enforceable with witnesses, etc.  Best to check with an attorney if it becomes an issue.

You did the right thing disclosing everything, I hope it works out well for you. 

 
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CrossCreek
Reg. Mar 2007
Posted 2014-11-09 9:53 PM
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dianeguinn - 2014-11-08 1:31 AM After 40+ years of selling horses, I will tell you that no matter what you do, they're going to badmouth you. Don't worry about it and go on about your business. You told them the issues, you didn't twist their arm or hold a gun to their heads to buy the horse, they signed an "as is" contract and you have no obligation to even talk to them. If you offer to buy him back or help them in any way, you are admitting "guilt" in the eyes of the court and that could give them reason to sue (if they're so inclined). If that was a car and they bought it off a lot w/an "as is" contract, do you think the dealership would give them the time of day??? No. Block their number and forget about it. I swear no one takes personal responsibility for their actions any more. smh

amen. 
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-11-10 5:11 AM
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There's a lot of people out there like that unfortunately. 

I agree -- you were honest and up front and they knew what they were getting into. 

Another option would be that they feed & take care of the horse while you help them sell it and then they give you a nice finders fee --- at least that way no one would be out any money up front.

Unfortunately, they sound like the type to dump one off at a sale. That part would worry me and because of that I would try to either buy him back or help them sell him. 
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Gunner11
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-11-10 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: When you sell a horse with "issues"



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dianeguinn - 2014-11-08 1:31 AM

After 40+ years of selling horses, I will tell you that no matter what you do, they're going to badmouth you. Don't worry about it and go on about your business. You told them the issues, you didn't twist their arm or hold a gun to their heads to buy the horse, they signed an "as is" contract and you have no obligation to even talk to them. If you offer to buy him back or help them in any way, you are admitting "guilt" in the eyes of the court and that could give them reason to sue (if they're so inclined). If that was a car and they bought it off a lot w/an "as is" contract, do you think the dealership would give them the time of day??? No. Block their number and forget about it. I swear no one takes personal responsibility for their actions any more. smh

Ditto!
I personally would NOT take it back, even at half the sale price. I hate selling horses, so when one is gone, it's GONE! They knew the issue and bought him anyways.
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SoFast
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-11-10 1:05 PM
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The latest is that they claim he is a bronc and that I "guaranteed him not to buck", which I would never guarantee anything on any animal, however I did say that he had never offered to buck with us, and that is the truth. Nightmare.
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QH<3er
Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2014-11-10 1:14 PM
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Do they realize they purchased an animal with a mind of it own? That you do not control his mind of what not to do?? Pssshhh guarantee not to buck... That's about as crazy as selling a dog and guaranteeing it not to bark!?
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T turning 3
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-11-10 1:44 PM
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It appears he has been with them long enough to develope new behavioral issues.  Remember that should you ever have conversations with these people.  Sold is sold, and even if you didn't tell them of the problems it wouldn't matter.  Be the best person you can be and let the fools go. 
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2014-11-10 3:22 PM
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Agree, if you were honest and they bought him knowing...its their problem now.  
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scwebster
Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2014-11-10 3:23 PM
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Gunner11 - 2014-11-10 10:31 AM
dianeguinn - 2014-11-08 1:31 AM After 40+ years of selling horses, I will tell you that no matter what you do, they're going to badmouth you. Don't worry about it and go on about your business. You told them the issues, you didn't twist their arm or hold a gun to their heads to buy the horse, they signed an "as is" contract and you have no obligation to even talk to them. If you offer to buy him back or help them in any way, you are admitting "guilt" in the eyes of the court and that could give them reason to sue (if they're so inclined). If that was a car and they bought it off a lot w/an "as is" contract, do you think the dealership would give them the time of day??? No. Block their number and forget about it. I swear no one takes personal responsibility for their actions any more. smh
Ditto! I personally would NOT take it back, even at half the sale price. I hate selling horses, so when one is gone, it's GONE! They knew the issue and bought him anyways.

Couldnt agree more!!! 
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