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| Just started my horses on the Nutrena pro force fuel. Second ingredient is maize distillers dried grains. This is a corn by product? What are your thoughts on this ingredient? Thanks! |
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| Corn distillers grain is a great product!!!
Back when I lived in SD we fed the crap out of it to cattle, sheep, and horses. We would buy it in bulk (its a small granular powder type byproduct) and top dress it onto feed. Its a cheap way to add calories to a diet.
The horses shine up really nicely on it - but - they can get HOT real fast if you don't carefully work them onto it. I would bet since it is in a feed, you won't have that problem.
If you're curious - google DDG's in horse feeds. LOTS of info out there.
Hope I helped! |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Yes, maize is corn and it's a by-product with a surprisingly good nutritional profile. Not just a filler. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | They feed it to cattle all the time. |
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| Awesome! Thanks everyone! |
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | T4L can correct me but I believe it's a by-product of the ethanol plants and a good source of nutrition just like beet pulp is a by-product of the sugar process. |
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| I talked to Nutrena. They test all their ingredients for toxins prior to them being unloaded. So far so good with the Pro force fuel! |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | docschic - 2014-11-21 2:51 PM T4L can correct me but I believe it's a by-product of the ethanol plants and a good source of nutrition just like beet pulp is a by-product of the sugar process.
That's correct. It's the sugar/starch part that's used in ethanol production. What's left is mostly protein and fiber.
Distillers grains are a byproduct of whiskey and fuel ethanol production. They have a very long history of being fed to livestock; the first study in the United States about feeding distillers grains to cattle was published in 1907. The tremendous growth in fuel ethanol production has greatly increased the supply of distillers grains, resulting in increased interest in feeding them. Annual production of distillers grains (on a dry basis) was about 1 million tons in 1998, about 10 million tons in 2006, and is estimated to reach 16 million tons by 2010.
In the United States most of the ethanol produced currently is made from corn but other grains can be used. The corn is processed and mixed with yeast that converts the starch into ethanol and carbon dioxide. The ethanol is distilled off and the remaining liquid is centrifuged to remove some water. This residue is called wet distillers grains and usually has 30 to 35% dry matter (DM) and contains most of the fiber, fat, protein, and minerals found in the original grain used to make the ethanol. The liquid removed by centrifuging is usually partially dried and becomes condensed distillers solubles. Condensed solubles are a good source of protein, energy, and vitamins but have the consistency of molasses, making feeding difficult. Most distilleries add the condensed solubles back to the wet distillers grains making wet distillers grains with solubles (WDGS). The wet products are either fed as-is or are heat-dried producing dried distillers grains with solubles (DDGS). The nutrient value of the products with and without solubles differs slightly, but only WDGS and DDGS will be discussed further.
Nutrient Composition
The nutrient composition of distillers grains is a function of the starting grain and the specific methods used to make the ethanol and distillers grains. Distillers grains have very low concentrations of starch because most of the starch in the starting grains was converted to ethanol. Concentrations of protein, fiber, fat, and minerals are increased depending on the concentration of starch in the grain. Corn grain is about two-thirds starch and when most of the starch is removed, concentrations of the other nutrients are increased about three-fold (table 1). With a few exceptions (discussed below) composition of WDGS and DDGS on a DM basis is similar.
Table 1. Average composition of corn grain and corn distillers grains with solubles1
Distillers grains
Crude protein, %30
Neutral detergent fiber, %40
Starch, %4
Crude fat, %12
Phosphorus, %.8
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Location: LaCygne, KS | Unfortunately, for the livestock industry that is using DDG as part of their feed source, things have changed a little. The Ethanol plants have adopted a centrifuge technique that recovers much of the oil in the final stages of production. This has lowered the DDG fat% from 10-12 % down to 5-7%. Feed manufactures and feedlots are still gaining the protien advantage from mixing DDG in rations, but the fat advantage has been reduced. The Poet company is the largest ethanoll plant owner. They listed test results on their web site from several hundred samples as: Crude protien=27%, N D Fiber=23% and Fat=4.7%. I recently found some research reported from Kentucky that tested inclusion of DDG up to 20% of a pelleted ration with price and response advantages.
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Location: In my own world | Prehistoric - 2014-11-21 4:29 PM
Unfortunately, for the livestock industry that is using DDG as part of their feed source, things have changed a little. The Ethanol plants have adopted a centrifuge technique that recovers much of the oil in the final stages of production. This has lowered the DDG fat% from 10-12 % down to 5-7%. Feed manufactures and feedlots are still gaining the protien advantage from mixing DDG in rations, but the fat advantage has been reduced. The Poet company is the largest ethanoll plant owner. They listed test results on their web site from several hundred samples as: Crude protien=27%, N D Fiber=23% and Fat=4.7%. I recently found some research reported from Kentucky that tested inclusion of DDG up to 20% of a pelleted ration with price and response advantages.
That might not be a bad thing considering corn is high in Omega 6. I would rather have a different fat source anyways. |
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