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angelica
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-12-02 1:23 PM
Subject: RE: Are you offended when...


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No I usually just say thanks anyway but sorry I can not!  I had someone offer me $100 for a registered unbroke two year old that I had listed for $2500, he had a good  bloodline and was well worth what I was asking, when I said no I was attacked big time and actually cussed out. 
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-12-02 2:12 PM
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It depends on the persons attitude and what they think they can offer my horse.  Yes I just said that.  I do make concessions to people IF they have something they can offer the horse AND to me in the way of exposure and good advertising/promotion.  Like they are a good trainer/competitor and are planning to futurity or can compete at a high level.  I don't give concessions on price to people who hide their identity or act like they are doing ME a favor by being interested in my horse.  Start tearing my horse or my program apart and I'm not interested in talking to you anymore.  Shipping cost is something the buyer needs to think about before contacting me; not my problem so don't go there.   

I've bought horses for half their asking price before, by NOT being rude and abusive to the owner. In fact the opposite. I tell them the truth.  How I really want that horse for my program.  WHY would I try to diminish the quality of a horse that I obviously want to buy.  What does that say about me? 
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Herbie
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-12-02 2:22 PM
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OregonBR - 2014-12-02 2:12 PM It depends on the persons attitude and what they think they can offer my horse.  Yes I just said that.  I do make concessions to people IF they have something they can offer the horse AND to me in the way of exposure and good advertising/promotion.  Like they are a good trainer/competitor and are planning to futurity or can compete at a high level.  I don't give concessions on price to people who hide their identity or act like they are doing ME a favor by being interested in my horse.  Start tearing my horse or my program apart and I'm not interested in talking to you anymore.  Shipping cost is something the buyer needs to think about before contacting me; not my problem so don't go there.   



I've bought horses for half their asking price before, by NOT being rude and abusive to the owner. In fact the opposite. I tell them the truth.  How I really want that horse for my program.  WHY would I try to diminish the quality of a horse that I obviously want to buy.  What does that say about me? 

Very well said and you are obviously a good business woman!   
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Gunner11
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-12-02 2:32 PM
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OregonBR - 2014-12-02 2:12 PM It depends on the persons attitude and what they think they can offer my horse.  Yes I just said that.  I do make concessions to people IF they have something they can offer the horse AND to me in the way of exposure and good advertising/promotion.  Like they are a good trainer/competitor and are planning to futurity or can compete at a high level.  I don't give concessions on price to people who hide their identity or act like they are doing ME a favor by being interested in my horse.  Start tearing my horse or my program apart and I'm not interested in talking to you anymore.  Shipping cost is something the buyer needs to think about before contacting me; not my problem so don't go there.   



I've bought horses for half their asking price before, by NOT being rude and abusive to the owner. In fact the opposite. I tell them the truth.  How I really want that horse for my program.  WHY would I try to diminish the quality of a horse that I obviously want to buy.  What does that say about me? 

Exactly! If my horse has so many flaws that you have to point them all out to negotiate a lower price, then why would you even want to buy it?! And then later on if you decide to sell it, how will you ever sell a horse with so many flaws??
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-12-02 2:55 PM
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Herbie - 2014-12-02 2:22 PM
OregonBR - 2014-12-02 2:12 PM It depends on the persons attitude and what they think they can offer my horse.  Yes I just said that.  I do make concessions to people IF they have something they can offer the horse AND to me in the way of exposure and good advertising/promotion.  Like they are a good trainer/competitor and are planning to futurity or can compete at a high level.  I don't give concessions on price to people who hide their identity or act like they are doing ME a favor by being interested in my horse.  Start tearing my horse or my program apart and I'm not interested in talking to you anymore.  Shipping cost is something the buyer needs to think about before contacting me; not my problem so don't go there.   



I've bought horses for half their asking price before, by NOT being rude and abusive to the owner. In fact the opposite. I tell them the truth.  How I really want that horse for my program.  WHY would I try to diminish the quality of a horse that I obviously want to buy.  What does that say about me? 
Very well said and you are obviously a good business woman!   

^this!

It doesn't bother me if someone offers me less than I'm asking (I've never bought one without trying to get someone else to come down).  I'll typically laugh at them and just do the 'thanks anyway'........end of conversation. Can't blame them for trying.

 
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T turning 3
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-12-02 6:43 PM
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I have X amount of money I can spend.  I will ask if they will take less and tell them my amount.  I make sure they know I am not devaluing the horse, but I just can't pay what they are asking.  Some keep my name in case the horse doesn't sell, other just say no.  I know it is rather rude, but I like certain horses and off it up just in case.   
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-12-02 7:01 PM
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I'm never offended at an offer. If it's something I can't take, I will tell them what I WILL take and if they can't do that, I say ok, thanks for the interest. At least they're looking at my horse, so that says something! What makes me mad is when I ACCEPT an offer and I never hear from them again!!! If you're going to make an offer, then be prepared to pay up and take the horse if it's accepted!! I also don't like them to ask my bottom dollar....I tell them "make an offer"...they won't do that because they're worried they might pay more than I'd take. Well, too bad, so sad....I don't do bottom dollar. ;-) If you want my horse for less than it's advertised, then make me an offer and we'll talk. lol And as you can see by my signature, I have several we can talk about! :)

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grinandbareit
Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-12-02 7:58 PM
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TXBO - 2014-11-30 1:12 PM

Fun2Run - 2014-11-30 10:14 AM Yes. If they can't afford the horse, they shouldn'tΒ even inquire. Β 
Β Just because you don't agree with the asking price doesn't mean you can't afford it.Β 

People that have acquired wealth didn't get there by being foolish.Β 


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ABSOLUTELY!!!

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Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-12-03 10:53 AM
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HotbearLVR - 2014-11-30 2:24 PM All my horses are dead broke and have NFR potential, so when I ask $75-100K for them, I will only talk to serious inquiries, because my offer is firm.

 What is your criteria for pricing horses? Interested in learning!
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oija
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-12-03 12:31 PM
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I'm not offended. I know some people, even great homes, only have so much. I'll often take a name (in case I can't find a buyer) and then tell them I want to take a bit longer to see if I can get more. I think I do a decent job at pricing around market value. I also don't mind listing mine just a little high so I can afford to come down. I usually have some form of base price already in mind. It makes us both feel good because they felt like they got a deal and I feel like I got what I wanted. I do try to price mine as close to market as possible by looking at sold ads and recent sales though.
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-12-03 1:04 PM
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T turning 3 - 2014-12-02 5:43 PM I have X amount of money I can spend.  I will ask if they will take less and tell them my amount.  I make sure they know I am not devaluing the horse, but I just can't pay what they are asking.  Some keep my name in case the horse doesn't sell, other just say no.  I know it is rather rude, but I like certain horses and off it up just in case.   

Being up front and doing what you are doing, is not rude in my opinion.  If I can let one go cheaper and think it is a great fit, I usually do. If I am on the fence about selling, or have one priced low already, I usually won't budge on the price.

I will say that I have had a couple NFR girls offer on broodmares and young yearling-2's that I have priced super cheap. So far most have been overly obnoxious in their emails and really burned me from wanting to send one there. I guess because they have competed with the elite, they think we should just bow down and give them horses??  One was a pretty easy going gelding, 2yrs and unstarted. Sound and futurity eligible. I had a couple others the same age I wanted to keep, can't ride them all so priced him at $1250. She would send me an email a month asking all the same questions and trying to offer 1/2.  After 3 of these, I politely told her she inquires on him every month, and his info is all the same. I sold him a week later to a nice home back east for my asking price. 

I have greatly discounted horses to top names in the area that futurity and rodeo. They take them, ride them for 60 days, add their name to the sale ad and sell them for 5x what they paid me-hell of a turn around when they agreement was for them to compete on them. I understand if the horse just didn't have it, but one in particular was a nice filly that went on to win some money around here. That offends me when I am taking advantage of.
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linds
Reg. Feb 2005
Posted 2014-12-03 1:46 PM
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Not at all.  Everything is negotiable.  I'll admit, I start mine off a little high.  You can always lower the price, but not so much raise it.  If you aren't getting bites, then you know it's too high.

Whether a horse is priced fairly or not, they continue to cost their owners money everyday.  Why would a seller sit on a horse for an extra 3 mos, when they could have sold the horse for $500 under asking price?
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rodeomom13
Reg. Apr 2008
Posted 2014-12-03 1:54 PM
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As long as they don't talk price until after they have ridden the horse. If my horse is priced at $30,000 and they call, ask 100 questions, and say all they have to spend is $20,000, that drives me crazy. If that is the case, then don't waste my time. Now if they show up, ride the horse, and then discuss price, I may negotiate. It just depends. 
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pinx05
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-12-03 9:24 PM
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Β  it doesnt offend me. What does though is when people are rude about it, or act like i am an idiot. I was selling a dog once, lady said she would talk to her husband. She called me back later and said "well i found a dog that is better then yours for cheaper. I won't buy yours unless you go down on your price." I told her basically she was a lier, if she had found a better dog for cheaper it would be a no brainer, buy the better dog. I said some more things and hung up. She called the next day offering to pay full price. I didnt sell her the dog, i would have kept it first.
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Leo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-12-03 9:43 PM
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I've had one that made me mad, but it was a bit of a different situation.

I had a broodmare for sale, open. Lady lived about 6 hours from me and agreed to my asking price. She was going to come pick her up that weekend with cash. She then called the day she was supposed to be there and said something had come up, it was now going to be the following weekend. I said that's fine, horse is still for sale.

So then she called back later that week and said she was coming that weekend, which was fine with me. She then asked me to have the mare US to see where she was in her cycle, as she wanted to breed her as soon as she was able. So I took her and had her US and the mare was ready to ovulate. I called her when I was leaving the vets office and told her she'd have to wait until her next cycle, since she was ovulating today or tomorrow.

Then the lady proceeds to tell me she doesn't think she can pay what I'm asking, even though we've already discussed it. Offers me half and wants me to deliver the mare......I hung up. Took the mare home and bred her. lol
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