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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-01-12 8:20 AM
how did she even pass a polygraph???
Because they really believe what they are saying at that time. A friend told my mom she had cancer, mom called her mom to offer support and anything else she could do to help. Guess what? She didn't have cancer, her mom didn't even know about it. That pretty much clued her mom in on the lies finally. She is much better about lies now, but I always take what she says with a grain of salt, so to speak. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | dream_chaser - 2015-01-11 5:26 PM streakysox - 2015-01-11 2:02 PM osu_barrelracer - 2015-01-11 1:00 PM The thing that is so baffling to me about this entire ordeal, is how GOOD she's been at lying. I agree that she definitely needs some help medically, I'm no physiatrist but I agree that she's probably got some kind of mental disorder. If you met this woman, you wouldn't think anything of her. She seems perfectly normal, if not a little reserved and quiet. She honestly is a good officer, and dedicated to her job. Seems perfectly legit. But its like she has to have all this attention, with someone feeling sorry for her. It started with just a couple of people, and when we stopped running to her over suicide threats, she reached out to other people instead. It really just blows my mind. People who are pathological liars are good. My brother is and my whole family will believe him over anyone else in the family. I try not to communicate with the jerk.
come unclued cause he's never in the wrong and we should all feel sorry for him and he has a major sense of entitlement ....be careful!
My BIL is the same way. It's lie upon lie upon lie. It's a different lie about the same story to each person. Most of the time he can keep up with them. But If asked about why the story changed, there becomes a whole new web of lies to get out of the original.
Luckily, his lies are not that in depth. He will literally lie about what he ate for dinner. Or how the weather is. Just stupid, irrelevent things turn into lies. The unfortunate thing is, he could be a good person. He has an upbeat personality. Everyones likes being around him.....But you go into each conversation knowing that none of it's true. And that's sad.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | TrailGirl - 2015-01-12 8:15 AM Probably the most disturbing part of all of this is that the delusional liar is in law enforcement and carries a gun. Seriously...she needs a psych evaluation and removal from any job that involves sharp objects...definitely doesn't need a gun. If there are DOCUMENTED/provable suicide attempts. (even if she was faking it...if she went to the hospital or paramedics responded etc) There SHOULD be grounds for removing her from any law enforcement role. Whatever you do...try to have witnesses (maybe other LEO) to be there as you are getting her to move out. She could completely ruin your life with lies and claims of things you never did. Above all protect yourself physically and don't be alone with her.
^^^^^ THIS......If there is documented proof of suicide attempts and she is still in law enforcement, I would be contacting the State Attorney General's Office and somebody's head would roll....... |
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Location: Moving soon..... | I have a family member that lies so much that she and her husband forget what they told you last. I have washed my hands of them. Just move on and stay away from her. Your time is precious and you don't need to waste it on her. Good luck. |
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Location: Oklahoma | NJJ - 2015-01-12 11:13 AM TrailGirl - 2015-01-12 8:15 AM Probably the most disturbing part of all of this is that the delusional liar is in law enforcement and carries a gun. Seriously...she needs a psych evaluation and removal from any job that involves sharp objects...definitely doesn't need a gun. If there are DOCUMENTED/provable suicide attempts. (even if she was faking it...if she went to the hospital or paramedics responded etc) There SHOULD be grounds for removing her from any law enforcement role. Whatever you do...try to have witnesses (maybe other LEO) to be there as you are getting her to move out. She could completely ruin your life with lies and claims of things you never did. Above all protect yourself physically and don't be alone with her. ^^^^^ THIS......If there is documented proof of suicide attempts and she is still in law enforcement, I would be contacting the State Attorney General's Office and somebody's head would roll.......
That is the bigest reason we went up the ladder with it, and made sure they were aware. They pulled her firearms certification right then and there. Why they didn't do it earlier (they were aware to an extent on the suicide threats), I'd choc up to pure officer shortage and politics. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | Good to hear from you today, lol.
Let us know how this turns out, and copyright the story for the book and movie deal. This sounds like one of those movies like "Hand that rocks the cradle" or "Misery" or something... |
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Location: Oklahoma | Figured I'd give yall an update. I decided I did not want to address anything with her, other than kicking her butt to the curb, however, two of my co-workers were very adamant about addressing her. They came over last night, however she refused to talk to them. She barricaded herself into the room, sitting in front of the door and holding the door knob. They were very kind in their approach, but she refused to talk to them. At this point, I don't want to have anything to do with her, so I could care less; however, they were worried because they thought she might try and kill herself, and knew she had a lot of prescription pain pills. So I called a friend at county who was working and he came out and made her open the door long enough for her little dogs to run out and her to say she was fine. Because she wouldn't actaully say she was going to hurt herself, we couldn't exactly haul her off to be commited. After he rolled out, she still refused to open her door, however, one of my co-workers all but took it off the hinges and forced her to listen to what they had to say. She either refused to answer, or denied everything they say. They pleaded with her to get help, and went home. The only thing that I told her was that, no negotiating, she had to be out tomorrow (today). I informed her that myself, or another friend from PD would be at the house all day to make sure she got her things, and only her things out; and that if she didn't remove herself, to expect a can of Top Cop under her door.
She came into work this morning and filled out some leave paperwork, and from what she told the Lt, it doesn't sound like she will be back. She left me a message this morning saying she would be gone today, but asking that I take care of her dogs until she can move them. I spoke to her sister this morning who said she was asking family for money so she could go live with them.
As much as I wish she would get help, it sounds like she's just going to run to whoever will take her, and start all over again. It really is sad.
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Who gives this person prescription pain pills? Why the heck does she have them? I'm guessing she lied to the doctor to get them...but if not and they aren't actually hers...geez.
And now I'm sad she has furry little lives depending on her. I hope they don't come out the losers in all of this nonsense. |
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Location: Oklahoma | TrailGirl - 2015-01-12 2:13 PM Who gives this person prescription pain pills? Why the heck does she have them? I'm guessing she lied to the doctor to get them...but if not and they aren't actually hers...geez. And now I'm sad she has furry little lives depending on her. I hope they don't come out the losers in all of this nonsense.
She had surgery on her neck last year...and for whatever stupid reason they are still prescribing them to her! She had a huge bottle of hydrocodine last week when I went to let her dogs out. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | cheryl makofka - 2015-01-12 9:32 AM It sounds like she is a psychopath. I honestly wouldn't confront her, it is like backing a frightened animal into a corner, her reaction is not going to be good. I can see her attempting suicide ending up in the hospital, and you are going to feel like you caused it, she will make you feel that way via text, phone, before she actually tries. I honestly would go to the police and have her removed from the property as you fear for your safety, soon she will be accusing you of doing horrible things. I would file a restraining order I would also block her number, change the locks, and ship all of her belongings to work or somewhere else so she has no excuse to renter the house.
This advice sounds good, but is totally not how the real world works. You can't kick her out of the house because she is a liar, you can't get a restraining order because she is a liar. She makes up outlandish stories to get attention, but it doesn't sound like she has threatened you in any way. Your idea to confront her sounds good on the surface too...but what do you think she is going to say? Do you think she is suddenly going to come through with the truth? It may make you feel good to let her know that you have her number, but that is not the smartest course of action. The best thing you can do is to put distance between you and she as soon as you can. YOU move out if you have to. I guarantee if you confront a person like this, she is going to turn her tactics on you and she will be telling lies about you to anyone who will listen. She is good at it too, remember, she fooled you for quite a while. Her family has already shared with you that this is a lifestyle for her. Unfortunately, I have dealt with this personality and learned from the experience that the best thing you can do is cut ties as quickly as possible. Don't be her next target. She doesn't sound like she would physically harm you, IMO (unless her family told you she has a history of violence, then I would be worried.). It sounds like she does this for attention. She has to keep getting a new audience because once people get her number, the game is over for her. |
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Location: White Mountains of AZ | That is so sad to hear...I bet she doesn't even realize what's she's doing. Trust your instinct in what to do here. I'm not sure what would be best, so just know I'm praying for you and everybody's safety in this mess! |
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