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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2015-02-24 8:14 AM
Subject: RE: winwillows, question about renew gold



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For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.
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countrygirl2006
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want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.

I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain.
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-02-24 10:58 AM
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countrygirl2006 - 2015-02-24 9:11 AM

want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.

I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain.

Renew Gold is formulated to increase digestive efficiency and get more complete use of your roughage. But, in poor hay, we can only get what is there. You would be surprised how much more you can get out of medium quality hay or pasture when you get the digestive system lined out. That said, if you need more it is easy to do. You can use some conventional feeds along with Renew Gold, but you would do so at a greatly reduced rate. Once again, do not feed more than two pounds of concentrate, including Renew Gold, at any one feeding. This overwhelms the horses ability to break down what starch and sugar is present in the small intestine, and in turn disrupts the efficiency of the hind gut. Doing this defeats the purpose of feeding Renew Gold in the first place. So, if your hay quality is not good, and you feel the need for more concentrate feed than just Renew Gold, go easy. I have seen a lot of people do this and end up cutting out the additional feed at a later date because the horse put on too much condition. I know feeding only Renew Gold does not seem like enough, but, for about 90% of our customers it is. This program gets the horse to digest it's diet the way nature intended it to, and when all the road blocks are out of the way that system is pretty amazing in it's efficiency. Sherry Cervi just posted her feeding program yesterday on Facebook. From an energy stand point, every horse gets Renew Gold and hay morning and night. She has no additional grain based feed in any of her horses diets at all. She does have access to good hay, but when she hauls there is a lot of demands on those horses and they carry perfect condition and energy with no additional feed.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2015-02-24 12:02 PM
Subject: RE: winwillows, question about renew gold



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winwillows - 2015-02-24 10:58 AM

countrygirl2006 - 2015-02-24 9:11 AM

want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.

I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain.

Renew Gold is formulated to increase digestive efficiency and get more complete use of your roughage. But, in poor hay, we can only get what is there. You would be surprised how much more you can get out of medium quality hay or pasture when you get the digestive system lined out. That said, if you need more it is easy to do. You can use some conventional feeds along with Renew Gold, but you would do so at a greatly reduced rate. Once again, do not feed more than two pounds of concentrate, including Renew Gold, at any one feeding. This overwhelms the horses ability to break down what starch and sugar is present in the small intestine, and in turn disrupts the efficiency of the hind gut. Doing this defeats the purpose of feeding Renew Gold in the first place. So, if your hay quality is not good, and you feel the need for more concentrate feed than just Renew Gold, go easy. I have seen a lot of people do this and end up cutting out the additional feed at a later date because the horse put on too much condition. I know feeding only Renew Gold does not seem like enough, but, for about 90% of our customers it is. This program gets the horse to digest it's diet the way nature intended it to, and when all the road blocks are out of the way that system is pretty amazing in it's efficiency. Sherry Cervi just posted her feeding program yesterday on Facebook. From an energy stand point, every horse gets Renew Gold and hay morning and night. She has no additional grain based feed in any of her horses diets at all. She does have access to good hay, but when she hauls there is a lot of demands on those horses and they carry perfect condition and energy with no additional feed.

Thank you. I do not have quality hay unfortunately. It's mediocre at best. They get turned out on a grass round bale most of the day and come in at night for a flake of decent alfalfa. They only get 2lbs of grain twice a day as well. Finding good quality hay has been really difficult for us this past year unfortunately. Maybe better this year I'm hoping.
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TBone
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 12:45 PM
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For those that asked...  A one cup kitchen measuring cup weighs about 1/4 lb Renew Gold.  So 2 cups = 1/2 lb Renew Gold.  This kind of depends on what measuring cup you are using and how full you make it.  Example...  the plastic coffee cup I use to scoop feed holds 1/2 lb Renew Gold.
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 12:56 PM
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Having Renew Gold offer a measuring cup that measures out 1# of Renew Gold would be very helpful to their customers. I know when I was feeding MoorGlo years ago, I had a cup from MoorGlo so there wasn't any guessing as many of us don't have a scale nor do we want one.. 
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-02-24 1:01 PM
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want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 12:02 PM

winwillows - 2015-02-24 10:58 AM

countrygirl2006 - 2015-02-24 9:11 AM

want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.

I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain.

Renew Gold is formulated to increase digestive efficiency and get more complete use of your roughage. But, in poor hay, we can only get what is there. You would be surprised how much more you can get out of medium quality hay or pasture when you get the digestive system lined out. That said, if you need more it is easy to do. You can use some conventional feeds along with Renew Gold, but you would do so at a greatly reduced rate. Once again, do not feed more than two pounds of concentrate, including Renew Gold, at any one feeding. This overwhelms the horses ability to break down what starch and sugar is present in the small intestine, and in turn disrupts the efficiency of the hind gut. Doing this defeats the purpose of feeding Renew Gold in the first place. So, if your hay quality is not good, and you feel the need for more concentrate feed than just Renew Gold, go easy. I have seen a lot of people do this and end up cutting out the additional feed at a later date because the horse put on too much condition. I know feeding only Renew Gold does not seem like enough, but, for about 90% of our customers it is. This program gets the horse to digest it's diet the way nature intended it to, and when all the road blocks are out of the way that system is pretty amazing in it's efficiency. Sherry Cervi just posted her feeding program yesterday on Facebook. From an energy stand point, every horse gets Renew Gold and hay morning and night. She has no additional grain based feed in any of her horses diets at all. She does have access to good hay, but when she hauls there is a lot of demands on those horses and they carry perfect condition and energy with no additional feed.

Thank you. I do not have quality hay unfortunately. It's mediocre at best. They get turned out on a grass round bale most of the day and come in at night for a flake of decent alfalfa. They only get 2lbs of grain twice a day as well. Finding good quality hay has been really difficult for us this past year unfortunately. Maybe better this year I'm hoping.

You would be amazed how well a horse will do on mediocre hay if their teeth are in good shape to chew without irritating the inside of the cheek or side of the tongue. As long as they can comfortably crew they will break it up well. If they then have the hind gut fully functional they will get more out of that hay than you would think. Horses evolved to thrive in this way. If we give them a chance, and clear the disruptions that we cause by over feeding starches and sugars in too large a feeding, they can do very well without a lot of supplementation. Remember, there was no place in nature that they could stop at the supplement or grain pile.
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want2chase3
Reg. May 2009
Posted 2015-02-24 1:33 PM
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winwillows - 2015-02-24 1:01 PM

want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 12:02 PM

winwillows - 2015-02-24 10:58 AM

countrygirl2006 - 2015-02-24 9:11 AM

want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.

I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain.

Renew Gold is formulated to increase digestive efficiency and get more complete use of your roughage. But, in poor hay, we can only get what is there. You would be surprised how much more you can get out of medium quality hay or pasture when you get the digestive system lined out. That said, if you need more it is easy to do. You can use some conventional feeds along with Renew Gold, but you would do so at a greatly reduced rate. Once again, do not feed more than two pounds of concentrate, including Renew Gold, at any one feeding. This overwhelms the horses ability to break down what starch and sugar is present in the small intestine, and in turn disrupts the efficiency of the hind gut. Doing this defeats the purpose of feeding Renew Gold in the first place. So, if your hay quality is not good, and you feel the need for more concentrate feed than just Renew Gold, go easy. I have seen a lot of people do this and end up cutting out the additional feed at a later date because the horse put on too much condition. I know feeding only Renew Gold does not seem like enough, but, for about 90% of our customers it is. This program gets the horse to digest it's diet the way nature intended it to, and when all the road blocks are out of the way that system is pretty amazing in it's efficiency. Sherry Cervi just posted her feeding program yesterday on Facebook. From an energy stand point, every horse gets Renew Gold and hay morning and night. She has no additional grain based feed in any of her horses diets at all. She does have access to good hay, but when she hauls there is a lot of demands on those horses and they carry perfect condition and energy with no additional feed.

Thank you. I do not have quality hay unfortunately. It's mediocre at best. They get turned out on a grass round bale most of the day and come in at night for a flake of decent alfalfa. They only get 2lbs of grain twice a day as well. Finding good quality hay has been really difficult for us this past year unfortunately. Maybe better this year I'm hoping.

You would be amazed how well a horse will do on mediocre hay if their teeth are in good shape to chew without irritating the inside of the cheek or side of the tongue. As long as they can comfortably crew they will break it up well. If they then have the hind gut fully functional they will get more out of that hay than you would think. Horses evolved to thrive in this way. If we give them a chance, and clear the disruptions that we cause by over feeding starches and sugars in too large a feeding, they can do very well without a lot of supplementation. Remember, there was no place in nature that they could stop at the supplement or grain pile.

Thank you. It's very easy to "over think " when it comes to feeding horses... like the majority, I want only the very best for my horses (that I can afford) I want them looking , feeling and performing at their very best. I'm pretty pleased how they look as of now.
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TBone
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 1:38 PM
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Would using a product such as Forco be duplicating the yeast culture that is already in the Renew Gold?

 
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-24 1:44 PM
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TBone - 2015-02-24 1:38 PM Would using a product such as Forco be duplicating the yeast culture that is already in the Renew Gold?



 

I've been feeding Renew Gold for about a year and the FORCO since 2006. The FORCO has been working well with the Renew Gold. I feel both work well together.  
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Mainer-racer
Reg. Oct 2004
Posted 2015-02-24 1:47 PM
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I have a scale in my barn and a doggie size feed scoop that I purchased at Petco is 1/2 pound of RG rounded over. It works great!
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Dreamingofcans
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-02-24 11:54 PM
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What's the maximum pounds you can feed of RG at each feeding if you're feeding 2x/day? 1 pound?
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Posted 2015-02-25 9:13 AM
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If you wanted to feed alfalfa pellets with the renew gold twice a day how much do you think should be fed of each at each feeding?
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winwillows
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-02-25 9:27 AM
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If you feed two pounds of alfalfa pellets morning and night it will slow the grass hay transit time through the hind gut and that grass hay will be better digested.
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ajs2002
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-02-25 10:42 AM
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We have a chain store in our state like TSC called Family Farm and Home. I am not sure if they are a national chain or just in our area. But have you ever tried contacting them to see if they would stock the RG? I would love to feed the RG again but I am not going to go through the hassle anymore of trying to feed a feed that is not easily available I was left too many times short. That and the fact I was paying way more because they were special ordering it only for me.  Would love to see it carried in all TSC or Family Farm stores. I would feed it again in a heart beat.  
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Griz
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-02-25 10:48 AM
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TBone - 2015-02-24 12:45 PM

For those that asked...  A one cup kitchen measuring cup weighs about 1/4 lb Renew Gold.  So 2 cups = 1/2 lb Renew Gold.  This kind of depends on what measuring cup you are using and how full you make it.  Example...  the plastic coffee cup I use to scoop feed holds 1/2 lb Renew Gold.

THANK YOU for this! I started a thread on this and didn't get any answers so I resorted to TRYING to weigh it with a bathroom scale!
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TBone
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-25 2:19 PM
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Griz - 2015-02-25 10:48 AM
TBone - 2015-02-24 12:45 PM For those that asked...  A one cup kitchen measuring cup weighs about 1/4 lb Renew Gold.  So 2 cups = 1/2 lb Renew Gold.  This kind of depends on what measuring cup you are using and how full you make it.  Example...  the plastic coffee cup I use to scoop feed holds 1/2 lb Renew Gold.
THANK YOU for this! I started a thread on this and didn't get any answers so I resorted to TRYING to weigh it with a bathroom scale!

LOL...   
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-02-25 3:26 PM
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TBone - 2015-02-24 12:45 PM For those that asked...  A one cup kitchen measuring cup weighs about 1/4 lb Renew Gold.  So 2 cups = 1/2 lb Renew Gold.  This kind of depends on what measuring cup you are using and how full you make it.  Example...  the plastic coffee cup I use to scoop feed holds 1/2 lb Renew Gold.

Thanks!  
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mreklaw
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-02-25 4:01 PM
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On a thread back in December 12/12/2014 Winwillows stated that 3 cups = 1 pound. Hope he will come on here and clarify. So on my way home I remembered I had picked up this cup a while back so I measured and 3 cups is 1 pound. This is renew gold cup.

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