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| Red Raider - 2015-02-24 5:06 PM
brushycreekfarm - 2015-02-24 4:46 PM We taught ours a couple of ways...when we started out hand breeding him we enforced MINDING his manners and OBEYing us...we didnt let him rush to the mare and spent alot of time letting him know if we said Whoa or back away....that he would do just that. That way he wasnt a maniac on the end of a lead rope.
Later we put a very very old mare in a large pen with him.She was peppy enough to wallop him if he needed it but arthritic enough not to be able to kick him to death...so each way he learned to respect the mare....and also learned to respect us.
This is how my breeder friends handle their new studs. They also try to match them up the first few times with mares who are more forgiving so that they get confident in how things go and learn their jobs much easier.
I've seen trainwrecks where inexperienced studs and mares happened and it's not pretty so while it's not popular advice, I can see why some are posting about it on here. I know one of my friends has pretty much given up on matching her stud to a certain mare because of a bad fiasco when she was a maiden and he was not as experienced. He won't go near her even now -- no matter how ready she is. I guess getting double barreled in the chest by a uncooperative mare tends to have an ill effect on the libido.
Thanks for the response! I can imagine that being kicked would kill the mood pretty quickly. He is a pretty respectful boy to the geldings he's been with, so hopefully that translates somewhat to how he will act with a mare, and hopefully she responds well. She has a good disposition also. |
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| No matter how experienced the handler is - that first time will be a trip. They have the instinct to jump, but they really don't know where. I still laugh when I think about my husband (who was holding the mare) saying " THE SOB IS GOING TO BREED ME!!!!"
Having an easy to breed, patient - even slutty type mare is the best option. I'd probably consider kicking hobbles on a maiden mare, maybe a twitch and/or a little ACE. If you have access to another stud, might consider teasing her in a controlled situation to see how she is going to react.
Obviously, you guys have to make the decisions about how you want to handle the situation. I, personally, would not just turn 2 1st timers together. Good luck! |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | KindaClassey - 2015-02-24 7:05 PM No matter how experienced the handler is - that first time will be a trip. They have the instinct to jump, but they really don't know where. I still laugh when I think about my husband (who was holding the mare) saying " THE SOB IS GOING TO BREED ME!!!!" Having an easy to breed, patient - even slutty type mare is the best option. I'd probably consider kicking hobbles on a maiden mare, maybe a twitch and/or a little ACE. If you have access to another stud, might consider teasing her in a controlled situation to see how she is going to react. Obviously, you guys have to make the decisions about how you want to handle the situation. I, personally, would not just turn 2 1st timers together. Good luck! Since you mentioned it, the kicking hobbles wouldn't be a bad idea. I know someone that uses it for all his mares and they work great I guess. Twitch wouldn't be bad to have around if she acts like she is not going to stand. The hard thing is unless you are ultrasounding, these mares especially maidens can act all hot and bothered and then get nervous as can be with a stud around and not want anything to do with him. I wouldn't want the mare to have a bad experience, but twitching may keep her handler safe.
Getting double barreled in the chest is the best place. In the shoulder or nuts has ended the breeding career of several stallions I know of. My own stud lost a testicle from a kick when he was about 8 yrs old. Found him swollen but not so sore he wasn't still trying. Semen tests that fall and the next spring showed he was as fertile as ever but a stallion only has 2 chances...
Edited by wyoming barrel racer 2015-02-24 8:23 PM
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | It will take 4 people to take a young stallion to mount a dummy cause he will want to go around it through it and under it. If he respects the handler to the fullest and you can position him the odds will be in your favor. Also the mare must have a good handle too. Plan on several hours to get it right. The whatca macallit has to be the right temperature or the stallion wont accept it or the sperm could get killed off if to cold before you finish collecting. Good luck in what you decide. |
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| with my stud it took about an hr to get him to do the deed... he didnt even want to make a peep... lip chain means breeding and your alowed to be a stud.. when i breed my mare she wasnt a madian but she had never been live covered... ihad her twitched lip chained and druged... there was no way that hell b@@@@ was going to kick my stud lol...she took the first shot.. and was going out the second day.. |
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