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dhanover
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-04-01 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale


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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA
 Long yearlings sell very well in November.  So do 3yo's.

 
Thank you, I was leaning at selling them as long yearlings. I can't take the chance of weanlings not showing well. I know a lot of people like to train them their way too.

 weanlings don't sell well unless they are by DTF & FG and then they don't bring what the owner had hoped.....3yo's sell well if they are really going & ready to start competing @ the BFA juvenile...
 
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crazy&lazy
Reg. Nov 2005
Posted 2015-04-01 11:38 AM
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I've never been to the Texas Best Sale, but Donna Hanover runs a good sale.  She's honest and knows her stuff.   

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astreakinchic
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-04-01 11:46 AM
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA
 Long yearlings sell very well in November.  So do 3yo's.

 
Thank you, I was leaning at selling them as long yearlings. I can't take the chance of weanlings not showing well. I know a lot of people like to train them their way too.

 weanlings don't sell well unless they are by DTF & FG and then they don't bring what the owner had hoped.....3yo's sell well if they are really going & ready to start competing @ the BFA juvenile...
 

^^^^^this lady knows! If she told me to paint my colt green and name it a unicorn to sale it....I probably would.
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dhanover
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-04-01 6:24 PM
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dhanover - 2015-03-31 7:53 PM
ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA
 Long yearlings sell very well in November.  So do 3yo's.

 
Thank you, I was leaning at selling them as long yearlings. I can't take the chance of weanlings not showing well. I know a lot of people like to train them their way too.
 weanlings don't sell well unless they are by DTF & FG and then they don't bring what the owner had hoped.....3yo's sell well if they are really going & ready to start competing @ the BFA juvenile...

 
^^^^^this lady knows! If she told me to paint my colt green and name it a unicorn to sale it....I probably would.

 You're too funny!!!
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suzy2qtee
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2015-04-01 6:48 PM
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My two cents is that some of the bigger sales have a list of consistent sellers that show up. Thus the buyers may look at them first and pay a little more from a "proven" breeder. Case in point the Triangle sale in Shawnee Ok. the premier breeders will have more time spent on them while in the sale ring. Once you get your name out there it will get better. I had a friend the kept bringing his young horses down here from Mn. and took nearly 3 years for the auctioneer to give his horses a better chance of a good price. I've seen where a person has brought just one proven horse to the sale and barely get a bid because the auctioneer was in such a hurry to get his buddies horse into the ring. 
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-04-02 8:40 AM
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Texas Best Sale all the way for me.

I haven't put one in that sale yet since I kept my 2014 babies and sold my 2013s PT.. but I really want to put a baby in it. IF I were to sell my first down french filly, that is where I would put her. But I can't bring myself to it. lol
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-04-02 1:02 PM
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for those of you that attend these sales

how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?

weanling?
Yearling?
two Year old?

I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year

 
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-04-02 1:33 PM
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kwanatha - 2015-04-02 11:02 AM for those of you that attend these sales



how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?



weanling?

Yearling?

two Year old?



I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year


 

Which sale were you thinking about? I would look at the past results for an idea of what they were bringing. 
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theerebel
Reg. Feb 2015
Posted 2015-04-02 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale



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Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?

Depending on the stallion I can go either way. These particular foals I have targeted more for barrels and race people won't like them as much. In the future I am going to stick with racing lines that can go either way (Ivory James, tres seis, Stoli, etc). The only thing I know will hinder race foals is my location, I am going to have to breed earlier in the year then I would like or risk having foals later and not as developed.

Heritage Place has several sales in OKC through out the year. More and more barrel horse people are attending them looking for prospects. There have been a few straight barrel prospects (own son of Frenchman's Guy) sold there, but I don't follow the sale to know if it would be a good sale for a barrel bred horse.

I was going to say Heritage Place too.

I agree with the above. I would seriously consider selling at the Heritage yearling sale. It's every September. They have a Fall Mixed sale in November, and then a Winter Mixed sale in January, but the big sale to sell at would be the yearling sale. Prices are very strong for a nice barrel bred prospect. I don't know what bloodlines you have, but good barrel bred prospects are bringing good money down there if they are out of known lines. There is starting to be more and more barrel people attending that sale. Kenna Squires picked up a nice filly there last time, as well as Lance Graves and several other top name people. If there is a DTF there, Lance normally is there. We buy there every year and have for the past 10+ years. Nice sale.

ETA: Check out www.heritageplace.com for a list of past sale results to get an idea.

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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-04-02 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale


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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-04-02 11:33 AM
kwanatha - 2015-04-02 11:02 AM for those of you that attend these sales



how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?



weanling?

Yearling?

two Year old?



I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year


 
Which sale were you thinking about? I would look at the past results for an idea of what they were bringing. 

it is hard to just go by the results as there could be a good reason why some went cheap, and it might be easy to see in person. I just don't want to spend money on flights, cars, hotels and not be able to afford a really nice prospect.
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dhanover
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-04-02 8:31 PM
Subject: RE: Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale


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kwanatha - 2015-04-02 1:49 PM
TheOldGrayMare - 2015-04-02 11:33 AM
kwanatha - 2015-04-02 11:02 AM for those of you that attend these sales

how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?

weanling?
Yearling?
two Year old?

I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year

 
Which sale were you thinking about? I would look at the past results for an idea of what they were bringing. 
it is hard to just go by the results as there could be a good reason why some went cheap, and it might be easy to see in person. I just don't want to spend money on flights, cars, hotels and not be able to afford a really nice prospect.
When we post our averages....we post a median average.  which means  we throw out the high & low seller.
The high seller was a yearling for $87,000  the low seller was a yearling for $1,000.  You can look on our web page for the results & median average which will give you a good idea of what is bringing what.  On the FB page there are lot's of pictures from 2012-2014.
www.txbestsale.com

We have people who have been @ this sale since the beginning.  2009 it was the JBQH sale....then my husband & I took it over in 2012.  It has grown every year.  


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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-04-02 8:49 PM
Subject: RE: Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale


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dhanover - 2015-04-02 6:31 PM

kwanatha - 2015-04-02 1:49 PM
TheOldGrayMare - 2015-04-02 11:33 AM
kwanatha - 2015-04-02 11:02 AM for those of you that attend these sales

how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?

weanling?
Yearling?
two Year old?

I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year

 
Which sale were you thinking about? I would look at the past results for an idea of what they were bringing. 
it is hard to just go by the results as there could be a good reason why some went cheap, and it might be easy to see in person. I just don't want to spend money on flights, cars, hotels and not be able to afford a really nice prospect.
When we post our averages....we post a median average.  which means  we throw out the high & low seller.
The high seller was a yearling for $87,000  the low seller was a yearling for $1,000.  You can look on our web page for the results & median average which will give you a good idea of what is bringing what.  On the FB page there are lot's of pictures from 2012-2014.
www.txbestsale.com

We have people who have been @ this sale since the beginning.  2009 it was the JBQH sale....then my husband & I took it over in 2012.  It has grown every year.  

thank you.
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dhanover
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2015-04-02 9:40 PM
Subject: RE: Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale


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crazy&lazy - 2015-04-01 11:38 AM I've never been to the Texas Best Sale, but Donna Hanover runs a good sale.  She's honest and knows her stuff.   

 Thank you  :)
 
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