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Location: Montana | My mare is turning 14 this year, and I know as she gets older she's more likely to get arthritis and have more joint problems. She's going good and feels good, but I'm just curious what you feel is better as preventative maintenance, BOT products or magnetic products? Assuming you couldn't afford both. Thanks! |
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Location: your guess is as good as mine | I personally love the PHT magnetic products, but I have several friends who use the BOTs and they seem to work well. I will say I would use the BOT products rather than use magnetics other than PHT, but again that's just my personal preference. Honestly I think it mainly boils down to what you can afford... |
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| Magnets and BOT both work differently. I alternate using them to pull soreness out. When I get a therapy horse in I will put either all magnetic products or all BOT the first day and change the next day. I like to leave them on 4 hours the first time they have ever had them on then overnight after that. I LOVE BOT when you cant or don't have the time to sweat legs/hocks. Just remember to not put any liniments on them and cover them with these products it will burn them. Sore No More is the only product I know of that doesn't burn. |
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Location: Montana | I know they both work differently, one thermal therapy and one magnetic therapy. But there have also been articles about magnetic therapy not doing anything, but personally I don't know. I was just seeing what was a better choice if you could only afford one or the other.
A couple of trainers I know use BOT products, and that is the way I was leaning. I'm not a huge one for using liniments any ways. I used to use it on my old mare (she was in her 20's at the time), and besides the feeling I got in my hands when I used it that I didn't care for, I'm pretty certain I was allergic to it (hands would kind break out). I would use liniment if I needed to, and maybe it was the kind I used (Thermaflex I think) that I didn't like. I do, however, really like Absorbine Jr., but I could never imagine using liniment AND something else...seems like too much even if it didn't burn them. I'm from the line of simple is best. :)
Thank you for the info and opinions!
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Location: Here | mtcanchazer - 2015-04-18 10:41 PM I know they both work differently, one thermal therapy and one magnetic therapy. But there have also been articles about magnetic therapy not doing anything, but personally I don't know. I was just seeing what was a better choice if you could only afford one or the other.
A couple of trainers I know use BOT products, and that is the way I was leaning. I'm not a huge one for using liniments any ways. I used to use it on my old mare (she was in her 20's at the time), and besides the feeling I got in my hands when I used it that I didn't care for, I'm pretty certain I was allergic to it (hands would kind break out). I would use liniment if I needed to, and maybe it was the kind I used (Thermaflex I think) that I didn't like. I do, however, really like Absorbine Jr., but I could never imagine using liniment AND something else...seems like too much even if it didn't burn them. I'm from the line of simple is best. :)
Thank you for the info and opinions!
Those "articles" lump all kinds of magnets into one group which is very misleading. For example rubber refrigerator magnets have very little effect on animals, whereas medical grade unipolar does. Also there are numerous studies proving they do work including the work of Dr Philpott as well as a published study in the New England Journal of medicine. |
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Location: Montana | SG. - 2015-04-18 10:05 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-04-18 10:41 PM I know they both work differently, one thermal therapy and one magnetic therapy. But there have also been articles about magnetic therapy not doing anything, but personally I don't know. I was just seeing what was a better choice if you could only afford one or the other.
A couple of trainers I know use BOT products, and that is the way I was leaning. I'm not a huge one for using liniments any ways. I used to use it on my old mare (she was in her 20's at the time), and besides the feeling I got in my hands when I used it that I didn't care for, I'm pretty certain I was allergic to it (hands would kind break out). I would use liniment if I needed to, and maybe it was the kind I used (Thermaflex I think) that I didn't like. I do, however, really like Absorbine Jr., but I could never imagine using liniment AND something else...seems like too much even if it didn't burn them. I'm from the line of simple is best. :)
Thank you for the info and opinions! Those "articles" lump all kinds of magnets into one group which is very misleading. For example rubber refrigerator magnets have very little effect on animals, whereas medical grade unipolar does. Also there are numerous studies proving they do work including the work of Dr Philpott as well as a published study in the New England Journal of medicine.
I wasn't trying to lump anything together, just saying what I've heard/read. Not trying to offend anyone.  |
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Location: Here | mtcanchazer - 2015-04-19 12:04 AM SG. - 2015-04-18 10:05 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-04-18 10:41 PM I know they both work differently, one thermal therapy and one magnetic therapy. But there have also been articles about magnetic therapy not doing anything, but personally I don't know. I was just seeing what was a better choice if you could only afford one or the other.
A couple of trainers I know use BOT products, and that is the way I was leaning. I'm not a huge one for using liniments any ways. I used to use it on my old mare (she was in her 20's at the time), and besides the feeling I got in my hands when I used it that I didn't care for, I'm pretty certain I was allergic to it (hands would kind break out). I would use liniment if I needed to, and maybe it was the kind I used (Thermaflex I think) that I didn't like. I do, however, really like Absorbine Jr., but I could never imagine using liniment AND something else...seems like too much even if it didn't burn them. I'm from the line of simple is best. :)
Thank you for the info and opinions! Those "articles" lump all kinds of magnets into one group which is very misleading. For example rubber refrigerator magnets have very little effect on animals, whereas medical grade unipolar does. Also there are numerous studies proving they do work including the work of Dr Philpott as well as a published study in the New England Journal of medicine.
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 A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | I know 100% that BOT works because I use it on myself.
I've used PHT and honestly did not see a difference between the PHT sheet & the cheaper DuraTech. I do have PHY bells and absolutely love them. PHT has fabulous customer service & dealers & products. I just didn't see a difference in the sheets.
I am in love with Soft Ride boots. They're the greatest investment I've ever made. I love love them. And so does my gelding.
Regular liniment is terrible. Try Sore No More liniment and poultice. It's absolutely wonderful. Does NOT burn. No strong medicinal smell. It's great. I use it all the time. I love the poultice for after my runs in the summer. |
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Location: North Dakota | I've tried the BOT for myself and it didn't do a darned thing. I had some wraps for my horse but sold them because I didn't notice a significant difference when he wore them and they would always rotate or fall down and were just kind of a pain. I want to try PHT. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | I think everyone has products that seem to work better for different purposes and horses.
I think both are great and personally I prefer the bot because it seemed to help my horse. When he had an injury.
I also know many who swear by pht. They have very good customer service and Julie aka SG is awesome with answering questions you may have about her products. |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | I'm in the middle of the pht or bot dilemma right now,
I have a bot sheet and hock boots and absolutely love them!
And can tell they are working but I'm searching for Bell boots and hear
That pht magnetic therapy is better for hooves as it dosen't retain heat.
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Location: Oklahoma | I prefer the magnetic and I've used both. There are some injuries/soreness that doesn't need the kind of heat that BOT produces. I use the magnetic (and I'm referring to the good medical grade magnetic, not the cheap Ebay stuff...and having had the DuraTech and PHT blankets both, I can definitely tell a difference) and BOT on myself, and they both help. I just prefer the magnetic. I think it reduces pain better and faster. JMO
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Location: ND | I prefer PHT. I have a couple blankets, bell boots & 3 n 1 wraps for my horses. I have used the bell boots & wraps on my arm quite a bit & know they work. I tried another magnetic product made for people for my hand & it did nothing. With the pht I can literally feel the increase in blood flow & when used over night the aches in my hand & arm from drawing are gone. I've also tried BOT as my dad bought a blanket, slept with that a few nights to see if I noticed anything & felt absolutely no change from it. I don't think I'll ever know if it's going to do anything for my dad's horse as he refuses to leave it on him for more than 10 minutes, as soon as he starts sweating he pulls it off. |
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| I have tried both. BOT did NOTHING for me. PHT i can curl up in the blanket and about 20 mins later everything starts to relax. love PHT. definitely worth the extra!
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| I have both and like both if I had to choose I think I would choose the BOT as it seems to take swelling out faster IMO but they both have there place I think. We have BOT for us and my horses have the blanket, quick wraps, bell boots and hock wraps. I see a huge difference when using them. I have PHT for my horses and a blanket for our hunting dogs we like. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | I personally have used BOT products for myself and they do work (sore knees).
I have both but find myself using the BOT products more. Only downside is you can't used the sheet in the summer (makes them sweat). |
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Location: Texas | I have both products. I love BOT BUT- my horses sweat under the sheet if it's over 75 outside, so I find myself not using them most of the year. The magnetic blanket I never have to worry about them getting too hot. I absolutely love the BOT quick wraps on the legs though. |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | daisy - 2015-04-19 11:48 AM
I have tried both. BOT did NOTHING for me. PHT i can curl up in the blanket and about 20 mins later everything starts to relax. love PHT. definitely worth the extra!
I've always wondered how exactly a blanket made for certain points on a horse works for a human just 'curling up' in it.
How does that work? Is there just some magnetic field thing going on or what? Just confused how that works. I always thought the points on the blankets had a purpose. Each one was supposed to be over a certain acupuncture or pressure point |
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| casualdust07 - 2015-04-19 1:29 PM
I have both products. I love BOT BUT- my horses sweat under the sheet if it's over 75 outside, so I find myself not using them most of the year. The magnetic blanket I never have to worry about them getting too hot. I absolutely love the BOT quick wraps on the legs though.
Ditto! Nothing prevents stocking up over a long weekend than the BOT quick wraps but I won't leave them on long nor leave them on in the trailer when it's summer. |
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