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Tle2424
Reg. Mar 2014
Posted 2015-05-16 11:24 PM
Subject: training a race horse


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I know it can get spendy, but what is the average cost to have someone train a horse to race on the track? And also a jockey? I'm clueless and very curious.
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scared of sharks
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-05-17 12:56 AM
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too much. i had one at the track about 10 years ago with a trainer. i was billed 1K a month and that didn't include farrier/vet/dental/mount money/racing silks/ which all came with separate invoices.
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Bigtime mistake
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2015-05-17 1:01 AM
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I can tell you what I paid two years ago in Louisiana. $45 a day to trainer, plus any extra for ulcer meds, clenbuteral, special vitamins I requested, etc, $125 a month to shoer, and $15 per ride for excercise boy when we were off track, hauling fees of $150 when filly was hauled from track to track, then there were the vet bills. Don't get me started on them. On average I was paying around $2300 to $3000 a month total bills.
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-05-17 1:14 AM
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Bigtime mistake - 2015-05-17 1:01 AM

I can tell you what I paid two years ago in Louisiana. $45 a day to trainer, plus any extra for ulcer meds, clenbuteral, special vitamins I requested, etc, $125 a month to shoer, and $15 per ride for excercise boy when we were off track, hauling fees of $150 when filly was hauled from track to track, then there were the vet bills. Don't get me started on them. On average I was paying around $2300 to $3000 a month total bills.

VERY TRUE .. and if you pick a big time trainer with 50-100 horses in his barn(s) he will use your monthly fee to add to his income (called day money) and your horse will rarely see a race ... always some excuse but horse always has the potential to be a winner per your professional con artist that is training your horse... lol

Jockey fees in a race are paid out of the purse for the race ... most tracks have ~ $90 paid into owners acct even if it came in last ... jockey fee is taken out of that ... and some tracks use their silks per the color of the hole your horse is running from .. if not .. you send your silks to the other track you will be racing at etc etc ..

And you have to keep in mind .. some race stallions get can't run fast as 2yo's but mature enough to crank up the speed and win as 3yo's ... INSEPERABLE's get are showing this trait right now on the tracks ... as did the get of The Signature and his sons get did ...

I always hoped to marry rich so that I could partner up with their bank acct to pay for
my racing desires ... lol ...

Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2015-05-17 1:17 AM
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iloveequine40
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-05-17 6:50 AM
Subject: RE: training a race horse


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I just wrote a check for over $4000 to the trainer for the 3 that the farm I work for has at track. It included their training and shoes only. I wrote another check for $1200 to the vet for race prep for all 3 plus the hospital bill for the filly that got sick. We have 2 that are eligible for futurity and derby which I just paid 2nd payment on, another $500. It is expensive! The 3 yr old derby has earned his way already winning his first race this year. One 2 yr old filly ran her 1st race ever yesterday and took 3rd. She won a whopping $589. The other 2 yr old filly got distracted when she got to the grand stands and just slowed up. It's very expensive!!!
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Nita
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-05-17 7:49 AM
Subject: RE: training a race horse



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Reading this post made me curious... Is it possible to just train your own and haul in to the track for races?
I understand there are advantages, like where track politics are concerned. But, is it possible to race your own home grown horses on a budget?
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-05-17 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: training a race horse


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Nita - 2015-05-17 7:49 AM Reading this post made me curious... Is it possible to just train your own and haul in to the track for races? I understand there are advantages, like where track politics are concerned. But, is it possible to race your own home grown horses on a budget?

http://www.horsecollaborative.com/a-horse-unlike-any-other/

This guy owned/bred/trained this horse.
 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-05-17 9:23 AM
Subject: RE: training a race horse


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Nita - 2015-05-17 7:49 AM

Reading this post made me curious... Is it possible to just train your own and haul in to the track for races?
I understand there are advantages, like where track politics are concerned. But, is it possible to race your own home grown horses on a budget?

I believe you have to get a trainers liscense, and there is a bit of politics behind getting one
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-05-17 9:49 AM
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-05-17 8:36 AM

Nita - 2015-05-17 7:49 AM Reading this post made me curious... Is it possible to just train your own and haul in to the track for races? I understand there are advantages, like where track politics are concerned. But, is it possible to race your own home grown horses on a budget?

http://www.horsecollaborative.com/a-horse-unlike-any-other/

This guy owned/bred/trained this horse.
 

Though Ben’s Cat does the running, much of the credit for his success goes to his trainer, who also happens to be his breeder and owner, King Leatherbury—that’s King Leatherbury—HIS NAME IS KING LEATHERBURY! At 82, Leatherbury is an Old Line legend who just so happens to be the third winningest trainer in the history of American racing (6,454 wins to be exact), even though he’s never set up shop in Kentucky, New York, Florida or California.

His owner trainer is not a typical backyard horseman ... so just discount any
thoughts of doing the same thing ..
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2015-05-17 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: training a race horse



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cheryl makofka - 2015-05-17 9:23 AM
Nita - 2015-05-17 7:49 AM Reading this post made me curious... Is it possible to just train your own and haul in to the track for races? I understand there are advantages, like where track politics are concerned. But, is it possible to race your own home grown horses on a budget?
I believe you have to get a trainers liscense, and there is a bit of politics behind getting one

Not really, you study and take a test.  If you pass, then you go take a barn test from one of the trainers appointed to give them. In Texas a steward will observe the barn test, not sure about in LA, both hubby and I got our trainers license in Texas.  My husband used to give the barn tests in Texas, mostly knowing how to saddle, bridle and wrap, the bits, blinkers etc. Honestly, if you have half a brain you can pass a trainers test, not hard at all.

In this state you have to have workmans comp insurance to start a horse even if you have no workers, that starts at $1000 a year and goes up when you have over 40 (approx) races.

 
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-05-17 10:10 AM
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Most trainers that train at local training tracks and transport horses to the track
have the horse under their wives name as owner . .. lots of reasons for this
including any fines to the trainer allows owner to still collect the purse.

Google the track or your states racing commission and find the rule books and most
have trainer manuals you can purchase for a small fee. It will cover all the different
types of races, fines, drugs permitted etc etc .. you can study this before you
GO TO TAKE YOUR TRAINING TEST.
If you can't read or speak English... they will give you a verbal test to answer
the test questions ... must have an owners license also .. if horse is in your name.

There is a typical flow of things you must do to get horse approved for his first race
and keep him eligible to run that requires a lot of hauling. From getting tattooed
prior to first race, training races, works, learning to work in company, gate training, hiring a jockey for the race, having a training track locally and exercise riders and the time lapse between races so he remains eligible or has to go get a work for stewards to
approve him again to race in a real race ...

Not to mention choosing the correct type of race for your horse and learning you have to sign him in to be drawn on Wednesday for the races on Friday etc etc ... many times you sit by the wayside waiting on a suitable race to enter your horse into... and then not get drawn into the race ...

Get you one of the self study trainer manuals to learn the type of races, basic rules, drug tests, test barn etc etc and
you will realize it is nigh on impossible for you to have a full time job and train
you a race horse at the same time ... lol



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