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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-19 10:30 PM
Subject: RE: Dang I just heard about that Biker gang fight



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Itsme - 2015-05-19 10:22 PM Nah, the bikers seemed very respectful of authority, they would have just packed up, apologized for the inconvenience and left...
LOL  Edit to ad here, I know that this is not a funny Ha ha thing going on, but Itsme can get me to giggle at some of the things she says.

Edited by Southtxponygirl 2015-05-19 10:33 PM
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-19 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: Dang I just heard about that Biker gang fight



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komet. - 2015-05-19 10:25 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-19 10:07 PM
RocketPilot - 2015-05-19 9:35 PM
rodeomom3 - 2015-05-19 2:50 PM
Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 2:24 PM
rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM  I didn't know Waco had biker gangs.  I just can't picture that.
They're in every big city.  
Guess I still don't consider Waco a big city :O    On the news this morning the owner of Twin Peaks, defending why he allowed them to meet there,  said he has had "luncheons" before without any violence.  I don't think I would call bikers getting together a "luncheon", lol.   
I saw the police chief on the news blaming the restaurant owner and the Twin Peaks corporate revolking their franchise.  Not sure that I understand exactly what he did.  Could he not let them into his restaurant? Would that have not caused more conflict? Or maybe there was more to it that I didn't catch. 
I'm a bit confused on what happen to where the franchise was pulled, I know that the police were wanting the owner to refuse the gang members service. What would have been the difference I wonder if he did turn them away, I think that they would have stayed anyway are just gone down the road to have this gang war, they were all rived up for a fight and the police knew it...   
I've never been in a Twin Peaks store, tho we have one right across the street. If the store didn't follow franchise guidelines I can understand why it got pulled. The store here hires off duty cops to sit in there as does Hooters. The Twin Peaks here has a large parking area in front designated just for bikes, so they cater to the bikers.. While I understand one gang had rented the place for an outside event that does not forbid other people from coming there to do business..

Awww now I understand a bit better  
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-05-19 10:44 PM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-19 8:12 PM
Itsme - 2015-05-19 10:09 PM Exactly the cops couldnt stop it from happening but the restaurant could have? Am I taking crazy pills? Cops were armed to the gills and picking off bikers at will.
The way I understand this is that the police knew it was going to go down and they were ready and I think they were there befor the bikers, and like you said armed to the gills. 

LEO were on the scene, SWAT was there and LEO couldn't stop the bikers from going into the restaurant... I'm confused why the restaurant owner was at fault.   And if LEO thought this was going to be a showdown, why weren't a dozen or 2 dozen officers IN the restaurant before the bikers showed up?  What the heck am I missing? 
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2015-05-19 11:10 PM
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Anniemae - 2015-05-19 10:44 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-19 8:12 PM
Itsme - 2015-05-19 10:09 PM Exactly the cops couldnt stop it from happening but the restaurant could have? Am I taking crazy pills? Cops were armed to the gills and picking off bikers at will.
The way I understand this is that the police knew it was going to go down and they were ready and I think they were there befor the bikers, and like you said armed to the gills. 
LEO were on the scene, SWAT was there and LEO couldn't stop the bikers from going into the restaurant... I'm confused why the restaurant owner was at fault.   And if LEO thought this was going to be a showdown, why weren't a dozen or 2 dozen officers IN the restaurant before the bikers showed up?  What the heck am I missing? 

"They had rented out or asked for the outdoor bar area specifically for a meeting that they were having of a group of invited biker gangs."

So the owners allowed the meeting to take place when It is known there was a turf war going on..
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Nevertooold
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2015-05-19 11:51 PM
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komet. - 2015-05-19 10:25 PM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-19 10:07 PM
RocketPilot - 2015-05-19 9:35 PM
rodeomom3 - 2015-05-19 2:50 PM
Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 2:24 PM
rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM  I didn't know Waco had biker gangs.  I just can't picture that.
They're in every big city.  
Guess I still don't consider Waco a big city :O    On the news this morning the owner of Twin Peaks, defending why he allowed them to meet there,  said he has had "luncheons" before without any violence.  I don't think I would call bikers getting together a "luncheon", lol.   
I saw the police chief on the news blaming the restaurant owner and the Twin Peaks corporate revolking their franchise.  Not sure that I understand exactly what he did.  Could he not let them into his restaurant? Would that have not caused more conflict? Or maybe there was more to it that I didn't catch. 
I'm a bit confused on what happen to where the franchise was pulled, I know that the police were wanting the owner to refuse the gang members service. What would have been the difference I wonder if he did turn them away, I think that they would have stayed anyway are just gone down the road to have this gang war, they were all rived up for a fight and the police knew it...   
I've never been in a Twin Peaks store, tho we have one right across the street. If the store didn't follow franchise guidelines I can understand why it got pulled. The store here hires off duty cops to sit in there as does Hooters. The Twin Peaks here has a large parking area in front designated just for bikes, so they cater to the bikers.. While I understand one gang had rented the place for an outside event that does not forbid other people from coming there to do business..

There is a big Harley Davidson dealer across the street and I'm sure they did cater to the 99% of law abiding motorcyclists. The Harley Davidson dealer is closed right now because of this and they aren't for sure when they will re-open their doors.  
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barrelbasher
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2015-05-20 12:28 AM
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Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 10:12 PM
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rodeomom3 - 2015-05-19 2:50 PM
Nevertooold - 2015-05-19 2:24 PM
rodeomom3 - 2015-05-18 6:24 AM  I didn't know Waco had biker gangs.  I just can't picture that.
They're in every big city.  
Guess I still don't consider Waco a big city :O    On the news this morning the owner of Twin Peaks, defending why he allowed them to meet there,  said he has had "luncheons" before without any violence.  I don't think I would call bikers getting together a "luncheon", lol.   
I saw the police chief on the news blaming the restaurant owner and the Twin Peaks corporate revolking their franchise.  Not sure that I understand exactly what he did.  Could he not let them into his restaurant? Would that have not caused more conflict? Or maybe there was more to it that I didn't catch. 
Many of the restaurants in San Antonio won't let bikers in when they are wearing their MC vests as it stands for their gang colors.



There has been trouble brewing for sometime with a territory dispute and the restaurant was asked to work with police and they wouldn't. The police then went to the Corporate office and the Corporate office asked the management to work with police and they once again said no. It was a no brainer there was going to be trouble and that is why the police were on site and got it under control before it really got nuts. The body count would have been a lot higher and it might have included innocent people. All of it could have been prevented if Twin Peaks had done their part. 

 

I just wonder how the owner if he could, just turn the bikers away, I would think that the bikers would have stayed anyway, this is one guy against more then 200 bikers. 

They made reservations to reserve the patio outside for their meeting. It wasn't like they were just wandering. The restaurant could have refused to reserve the patio
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barrelbasher
Reg. Apr 2007
Posted 2015-05-20 12:32 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-19 8:12 PM
Itsme - 2015-05-19 10:09 PM Exactly the cops couldnt stop it from happening but the restaurant could have? Am I taking crazy pills? Cops were armed to the gills and picking off bikers at will.
The way I understand this is that the police knew it was going to go down and they were ready and I think they were there befor the bikers, and like you said armed to the gills. 

LEO were on the scene, SWAT was there and LEO couldn't stop the bikers from going into the restaurant... I'm confused why the restaurant owner was at fault.   And if LEO thought this was going to be a showdown, why weren't a dozen or 2 dozen officers IN the restaurant before the bikers showed up?  What the heck am I missing? 

The restaurant would not allow uniformed officers in the restaurant
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arion
Reg. Mar 2015
Posted 2015-05-20 6:48 AM
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It was not a group of bikers, or even just "several" gangs.

This was a Confederation of Clubs meeting, there is/was beef between Bandidos and Cossacks,

the other clubs that were there, were bi tc h gangs from the two main clubs.


Mr. Patel, managing partner of this franchise, was approached by LE in an effort to thwart this situation and he told them he had it under control and to go pi ss up a rope. (not so many words but you get the point)


The Cossacks are no longer member of the CoC but had agreed to attend in order to cool down the tensions between clubs.



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Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-05-20 8:18 AM
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rodeomom3
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-05-20 8:34 AM
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arion - 2015-05-20 6:48 AM It was not a group of bikers, or even just "several" gangs. This was a Confederation of Clubs meeting, there is/was beef between Bandidos and Cossacks, the other clubs that were there, were bi tc h gangs from the two main clubs. Mr. Patel, managing partner of this franchise, was approached by LE in an effort to thwart this situation and he told them he had it under control and to go pi ss up a rope. (not so many words but you get the point) The Cossacks are no longer member of the CoC but had agreed to attend in order to cool down the tensions between clubs.

    ^ This, plain and simple
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-20 10:41 AM
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What I have heard and tryed to understand was that the Bandidos ruled most of Texas and own lots of businesses, I didnt know that the biker gangs were large. I have seen a few of the Bandidos bikers growing up but didnt know that it was so out of control now adays. We have seen a few of the Black Panthers here quite a bit thou...
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GraciousLegacy
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2015-05-20 11:27 AM
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-20 10:41 AM What I have heard and tryed to understand was that the Bandidos ruled most of Texas and own lots of businesses, I didnt know that the biker gangs were large. I have seen a few of the Bandidos bikers growing up but didnt know that it was so out of control now adays. We have seen a few of the Black Panthers here quite a bit thou...
Large is an understatement.....they are international. 

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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-05-20 11:55 AM
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GraciousLegacy - 2015-05-20 11:27 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-05-20 10:41 AM What I have heard and tryed to understand was that the Bandidos ruled most of Texas and own lots of businesses, I didnt know that the biker gangs were large. I have seen a few of the Bandidos bikers growing up but didnt know that it was so out of control now adays. We have seen a few of the Black Panthers here quite a bit thou...
Large is an understatement.....they are international. 

This is just crazy.... 
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