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gunsmoke
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2015-06-30 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Overthinking Problem....how to stop....





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Go get on him!! I know you can bail fast if I can ou can! Just ask Laura how fast I flew off Cruzer when he took a step forward!!!
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ajs2002
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-06-30 11:40 AM
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-06-30 12:27 PM
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My 5 year old is still pretty green mentally, although she rides like a broke horse with an occasional hop when you first lope her.  She was broke at 3 because she was seriously injured as a 2 year old, and then hurt herself badly twice last year when she was 4, so I didn't get as much time on her as I should have.  Anyway, she got scared and bolted last winter then swallowed her head and made a serious effort to buck me off.  I told her if she wanted to act like a 2 year old instead of the 5 year old she is, I could darn sure treat her like one.  

So for a couple of weeks, I saddled her every morning and left her tied for 6 hours or so before working her.  Then I would pony her, drive her, or free lunge her in the roundpen before stepping on.  If she was good, I would quit with a few circles.  If she wanted to be stupid, I got after her and made her move her feet faster.  I have gradually done more riding with less prep, got something on her head I can get her with if needed (it's actually not much, a 3 piece dutton with bob loomis shanks and the reins hooked to the bit rings instead of the shanks), and I don't let her get sticky feet.  It has taken a while, but I'm starting to trust her again after 5 months.  I have probably been more cautious than I needed to be, but she scared the poop out of me when she almost bucked me off.  I have never actually stayed on before when one bucked that hard and didn't want to try my luck again.  LOL
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-06-30 1:09 PM
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BRcwgrl81 - 2015-06-30 9:28 AM
kwanatha - 2015-06-30 12:25 PM i have had quite a few that bucked hard in the pasture but not that interested in it under saddle. BUT i alwasy allowed them to have thier play time a couple times a week. I don't like them to buck on the lounge line. i will free lounge them in the round pen and let them buck. or turn out and play a chase game.  absolutely no bucking with saddle on
He's out 24/7....never stalled, so he has all the play time he wants.



I do not have a round pen, so cannot free lunge.  



On the lunge line he is saddled...

well then lounge naked first and get some bucks out then saddle and do not tolerate the bucking with the saddle on. when he knows the difference then you should be able to step on

 
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ajs2002
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-06-30 2:04 PM
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 well then lounge naked first and get some bucks out then saddle and do not tolerate the bucking with the saddle on. when he knows the difference then you should be able to step on



 

  Does lounging your horse naked really help him to stop bucking? Probably scares the crap right out of them. They will do anything to see you put your clothes back on???
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BRcwgrl81
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2015-06-30 2:09 PM
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ajs2002 - 2015-06-30 3:04 PM
 well then lounge naked first and get some bucks out then saddle and do not tolerate the bucking with the saddle on. when he knows the difference then you should be able to step on



 
  Does lounging your horse naked really help him to stop bucking? Probably scares the crap right out of them. They will do anything to see you put your clothes back on???

 

No sure how my neighbors would feel about this!!!!!!  
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Fairweather
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2015-06-30 2:42 PM
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 Set yourself as best you can. Don't lunge to him out or get the buck out - lunge to get his mind. Get his mind and you'll get his feet. 

Don't get on until he tells you he's ready and he tells you that you have his mind and his total focus is on you. Otherwise you're just wasting your time and putting yourself at risk. 

Make sure he's soft enough that you can get his head around without having to pull..

When you ride, keep that nose tipped to the inside. You can get a jump on one if you ride them in a big circle with their nose tipped in. 

Pay attention to how his body feels. They'll tell you they're going to buck long before they do and when they do change directions and interrupt that thought. 

Make sure you relax so he relaxes. 
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RodeoCowgirl4u
Reg. Aug 2012
Posted 2015-06-30 2:47 PM
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Glad I am not alone in this, also had a baby and had to put my goals for starting my equine baby on hold. Not good since this horse can twist and turn as he bucks like a pro rough stock horse, and has the speed and turn of a cutter or NFR caliber barrel horse. Umm...yeah. Not so confident swinging a leg over him. And the sad thing is that back in the day I used to show up at all these places with my itty-bitty english saddle and ride all these rank rogues and be first up ever on a horse's back. This guy is now at a trainer who has advised me that while very promising this is a horse that you CANNOT give a day off. Glad to know I'm not the only chicken not riding my horse. Guess something has changed within me and I need to learn to cowgirl up again. Thanks to the OP for being brave and sharing, and thanks for all the advice from the rest of y'all.
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-06-30 3:33 PM
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Round pen his ass and get some respect from him, then using the bit you always have jump on with confidence just like you did before.
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2015-06-30 6:54 PM
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If you have a small corral use it. Or pony him off another horse . Ride out double then mount up on the way back while being ponied. He'll get used to a rider being above then it's no big deal.
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kwanatha
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-06-30 7:04 PM
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you guys are goof balls!!!
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wild_west
Reg. May 2010
Posted 2015-06-30 7:23 PM
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I can tell you this, my boy looks like Painted Valley when I turn him out. I mean he is rank! I always look at that and say thank GOD he doesn't pull that with me, I'd be out the back door before he landed the first jump. I don't know how to help I just wanted to say you aren't alone lol!!!
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mtcanchazer
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2015-06-30 8:45 PM
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You aren't alone! My 3 y/o can be just that, a 3 y/o. He bucked with me once, and I stayed on and got him working, but now I don't want to get back on him even though I know I have to.
Β He lunges good and has never tried to buck on the end of a lunge line with me, and I can't ever remember him bucking in the pasture. But he had a week of when I pulled this stunt, so I'm really thinking it maybe just a 3 y/o that needs more riding and something to focus on. I tried to keep him ridden 3 days a week, then it got narrowed down to 2 with being really busy at work. I just don't think he's getting enough riding time. I think if he was ridden 3-5 days a week, he would do well, and I'm hoping to find him a home that will give him that riding time he needs orΒ I can "suck it up buttercup" & put my big girl panties on.

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Ridenrun4745
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2015-06-30 9:52 PM
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Your confidence will come back - make small, small goals. I have a now 4yo, and have had babies in between him growing up. He had 60 days as a 2yo, then ridden intermittently throughout the summer. I got pregnant, he sat. I was scared to get back on. He's not rank, but he's a nutball when he wants to be.
I'd lunge him, finish good, tie him up for an hour before putting him back for a few days, maybe a week the first time that I was ready to ride him after a while.
Then, after lunging I got on and flexed him, rode at a walk in smaller circles and figure 8s, giving him something to think about. Call it a day if you feel good about it. Small, small goals until you feel more confident with him - and yes, be ready to bail, although you probably won't have to :).
This year, my 4yo does buck some under saddle if he goes into a lope too quickly when we start riding. I can ride through it - and there have been times when he has tried to get more aggressive, but some of it is because I've found my confidence again (knock on wood!) and riding him more then years past, and overall he's doing great.
I hope it all works out for you!!
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