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Stallion Owners and Horse Sellers!

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Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-07-09 4:42 PM
Subject: Stallion Owners and Horse Sellers!


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If you are advertising your horse for stud or selling them, please include a picture of their conformation taken pointed at the girth!
If there is not a conformation picture, I will not even consider inquiring on the horse because that leads me to believe that the horse has a conformational flaw that you are trying to mask with pictures taken from various angles rather than straight on. . . Pictures from the front and back are appreciated too but if I want those and they aren't included, I will inquire for them. . . If a conformation shot isn't included I won't even bother asking.  Just a pet peeve of mine!
That is all, rant over 
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2015-07-09 4:54 PM
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Mare owners should also be prepared to provide the same information.  Good PSA. 
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 5:46 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-07-09 3:54 PM Mare owners should also be prepared to provide the same information.  Good PSA. 

 If only...
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Panther14
Reg. Apr 2015
Posted 2015-07-09 5:51 PM
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Agreed
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mreklaw
Reg. May 2008
Posted 2015-07-09 6:36 PM
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Totally agree. Huge pet peeve of mine also. I want to see how well balanced they are!!!
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-07-09 6:57 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-07-09 4:54 PM

Mare owners should also be prepared to provide the same information.  Good PSA. 

Oh you should see the emails I send to stallion owners.. life history, pictures, results, links to videos. LOL. I'm so much fun.
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-07-09 9:14 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-07-09 4:54 PM Mare owners should also be prepared to provide the same information.  Good PSA. 

Agreed, if I was standing a stud I would want the mare to be just as correct as my stud, I have seen to many mares that should not be bred...
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2015-07-09 9:48 PM
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casualdust07 - 2015-07-09 4:57 PM

Whiteboy - 2015-07-09 4:54 PM

Mare owners should also be prepared to provide the same information.  Good PSA. 

Oh you should see the emails I send to stallion owners.. life history, pictures, results, links to videos. LOL. I'm so much fun.

Are you also the student that turns in 5000 words instead of the required 2500? Lol.
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crossspur
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2015-07-10 9:29 AM
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I used to add several conformation pictures to my ads and people would email and want 25 more, so now I just put one photo on there & then I have 25 more when they email for more photos
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2015-07-10 9:56 AM
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-07-10 10:36 AM
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Saddles can be left off too. I've seen a bunch of for sale ads with saddles on.   
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2015-07-10 10:57 AM
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The whole point of keeping a horse a stallion is simple.

He should have the genes to improve on the baby when crossed
with many bloodlines that mares may bring to his court ...

Otherwise ... he is just a horse that squeals ...
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2015-07-10 11:01 AM
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A stallion should improve upon the breed, not just upon the stallion and mare.  Now how do you measure improvement, especially when it comes to tastes/preferences? 
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Mighty Broke
Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-07-10 11:53 AM
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Whiteboy - 2015-07-10 12:01 PM A stallion should improve upon the breed, not just upon the stallion and mare.  Now how do you measure improvement, especially when it comes to tastes/preferences? 

Plus, it takes 4-5 years to see the results from a cross. This is the tough part.
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2015-07-10 4:14 PM
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Whiteboy - 2015-07-10 9:01 AM A stallion should improve upon the breed, not just upon the stallion and mare.  Now how do you measure improvement, especially when it comes to tastes/preferences? 

I have to agree with this.  If a breeder starts with poor stock, it's going to be easy (or hard if you don't breed to a good horse) to improve on them.  But to be more specific, why start at the bottom when you can build on someone else's excellent program to get your stock?  In other words, your pintowalkaloosa pony/mule with legs facing east and west at the same time, that you can trot around a single barrel in 30 seconds, is probably not good breeding stock IF you are wanting to raise rodeo horses. You can measure them against what you had before and improve on them. But why shoot so low?   
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-07-10 4:55 PM
Subject: RE: Stallion Owners and Horse Sellers!



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svincent - 2015-07-09 9:48 PM

casualdust07 - 2015-07-09 4:57 PM

Whiteboy - 2015-07-09 4:54 PM

Mare owners should also be prepared to provide the same information.  Good PSA. 

Oh you should see the emails I send to stallion owners.. life history, pictures, results, links to videos. LOL. I'm so much fun.

Are you also the student that turns in 5000 words instead of the required 2500? Lol.

No, only because some profs will just throw it away because you didn't follow instructions :P.
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ausranch
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2015-07-12 6:47 PM
Subject: RE: Stallion Owners and Horse Sellers!



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OregonBR - 2015-07-10 9:36 AM

Saddles can be left off too. I've seen a bunch of for sale ads with saddles on.   

Good timing! I'm going to take photos for a friend who wants to sell a broke horse. Obviously we are going to take a bunch without a saddle but I thought we'd take a couple with one just because it proves she's at least had a saddle on. The saddled ones would be extras - NOT instead of the unsaddled ones.

We'll try to get a video too but you can't put that on every free ad service out there plus you never know if I'll get a decent video. I suck as a videographer!

So am I making a mistake? Skip the saddle ones?
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ausranch
Reg. Aug 2006
Posted 2015-07-12 7:03 PM
Subject: RE: Stallion Owners and Horse Sellers!



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BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-07-10 9:57 AM

The whole point of keeping a horse a stallion is simple.

He should have the genes to improve on the baby when crossed
with many bloodlines that mares may bring to his court ...

Otherwise ... he is just a horse that squeals ...

I hear you on that squeals thing . . . well, I used to before these studs ruined my hearing . . . .

I look at stud qualifications a little differently though. I think a stud needs to have the ability to sire good foals with a purpose. None of my studs would, if crossed on a world class western pleasure mare or halter mare improve on them in the eyes of their owners! And I wouldn't like them as well as the foals out of my own mares. And just because someone thinks their mare is a good cross doesn't mean they are right.

And if you brought American Pharoah's dam to my studs . . . none of them could improve on her. Does that mean they have no right to be studs? That would shorten the heck out of the list of studs in the world!

There should be overwhelmingly strong reasons for a horse to remain a stud. But I read a lot of black and white statements about studs. Horse breeding isn't that easy. (Not necessarily in this post)

Well, I think I'll go listen to some of them squeal, holler, and generally take out what is left of my hearing now . . . .


Edited by ausranch 2015-07-12 7:05 PM
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